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On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

KaraBulut said:
The good news with this virus is that while it's far more transmissable between humans than originally reported, it does not appear to have a common non-human reservoir (at least not that they have found yet).

The reason influenza is a continual bane with constantly changing properties and nearly annual pandemics is that it moves between pigs and birds - animals that humans have frequent contact with- and then back to humans. This movement between species changes the virus and allows it to avoid our immune systems and it also prevents us from eliminating influenza in humans.

Because there doesn't seem to be a non-human reservoir for COVID-19, in theory if countries could greatly reduce or stop human to human transmission, the epidemic would be stopped.

The bad news... two problems: 1) international travel and 2) countries like the US don't respond to government mandates well. Trying to force Americans to stay and home, not get paid for weeks and forcing healthcare workers to risk contracting the virus... well, that probably won't work.
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There's an easy solution for us here in NZ. We can shut down the airports. Let no one in and become a self sufficient country for a bit. We have everything we need except for maybe oil. Will it happen? No.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

This is one of the times that I am grateful for the lessons we learned during SARS.

Across Canada, there are protocols in place to manage people at the emergency primary care stage....and in Ontario at least, almost every hospital added or upgraded their isolation treatment facilities after 2004...in fact, it became part of the national design standards.

But the worry is that at some point it will get into the schools and little kids will be the vehicle by which the virus spreads.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

swerve said:
I don't know if this article is factual or not...

link: https://interestingengineering.com/coronavirus-may-live-up-to-9-days-on-surfaces-new-study-finds
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It's factual but a few things to call out about the Journal of Hospital Infection (JHI) article they cite:
  • The JHI article is talking about coronaviruses (which cause about 25% of human colds). It's not specific to COVID-19 (where there is only a limited number of studies because it's new). The JHI article does specifically look at research on SARS and MERS which are coronaviruses that are very genetically similar to COVID-19 but not similar enough to say that COVID-19 has the same survivability on inanimate objects.
  • Just because a virus is on an inanimate object doesn't mean that it is easily transmissible. For example, there's some studies of influenza that say that your fingers would have to be in contact with the inanimate object for several seconds. So, that makes a doorknob less likely to transfer influenza virus compared to a pen that you use at your local restaurant to sign the bill. Studies haven't looked at inanimate object transfer of coronaviruses, so we don't know whether the long survivability of coronaviruses on surfaces has any relevance.

The known information about COVID-19 still points to respiratory droplet infection (i.e. coughs, sneezes) as the most likely means of transmission. But there are open questions about how the cases on the Diamond Princess happened since droplet infections may not account for such a large number of cases (>18% of the 3700 people on the ship).

The JHI article also specifically says that common agents used in healthcare to disinfect equipment and surfaces (e.g. dilute bleach, alcohol, etc) are effective, so there are no special cleaning agents needed.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

swerve said:
I don't know if this article is factual or not...

link: https://interestingengineering.com/coronavirus-may-live-up-to-9-days-on-surfaces-new-study-finds

But it states that the virus can live up to 9 days without a biological host (i.e. on a countertop or surface).

That freaks me out.

It seems unimaginable and unbelievable.
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wow, flu virus can spread so easily than. Sneeze spray everywhere


Also sneeze carried by wind to the cloud and comes back as rain carrying viruses LOL
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

27-Feb-2020:

COVID-19 stats:
Cases reported: 82,446 (up from 81,128 yesterday)
Deaths: 2,808 (up from 2,765 yesterday

Cases reported in the US - 60 (up from 57 yesterday includes 36 Diamond Princess cases)

Cases reported in Canada - 11

More cases have been reported outside China.
  • South Korea - 1,766 (up from 1,261 cases yesterday) - 13 deaths
  • Italy has 453 (up from 322 yesterday) - 12 people have died.
  • Iran - 245 (up from 95 cases yesterday) - 26 deaths
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

One of the new cases in the US was someone that had no direct connection to China or to any of the known coronavirus cases in the US. This points out one of the problems with the case count in the US: the US has a shortage of testing kits and is only testing people who have had recent travel or who have been in contact with a known case. This means that they may be missing cases because they are not testing for the virus.

The California case is also significant because the patient had been hospitalized for several days and had been in contact with staff throughout the hospital before the diagnosis was made.

CDC confirms the first US coronavirus case of 'unknown' origin. The California patient was hospitalized for days before getting tested [CNN]
A California patient being treated for novel coronavirus is the first US case of unknown origin, CDC officials said.

The patient didn't have any relevant travel history nor exposure to another known patient. It may be the first US case of "community spread" of the virus officials said.

The Solano County resident was admitted to UC Davis Medical Center last week but wasn't tested until Sunday, according to a letter sent to UC Davis staff and obtained by CNN.
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Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

KaraBulut said:
One of the new cases in the US was someone that had no direct connection to China or to any of the known coronavirus cases in the US. This points out one of the problems with the case count in the US: the US has a shortage of testing kits and is only testing people who have had recent travel or who have been in contact with a known case. This means that they may be missing cases because they are not testing for the virus.

The California case is also significant because the patient had been hospitalized for several days and had been in contact with staff throughout the hospital before the diagnosis was made.

CDC confirms the first US coronavirus case of 'unknown' origin. The California patient was hospitalized for days before getting tested [CNN]
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Oh Jesus.

This is how SARS almost ran wild in Toronto in the first few weeks.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

So Iran's VP has died of Coronavirus.....

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/br...UOso_irIb3tW-pxl-bTCsEeyccj4-q_7OCPCjyLhylGpg
 
Re: Coronavirus. Are you buying the hype?

Harke the Boeotarch said:
^ Not in The Netherlands... yet.
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[STRIKE]Yet.[/STRIKE]

Netherlands confirms first coronavirus case [The Hill]
The Netherlands on Thursday reported its first confirmed case of a novel form of coronavirus as confirmed cases of the outbreak surged past 82,000 worldwide...

A statement from the Dutch National Institute for Public Health (RIVM) obtained by Reuters reported that one resident of the town of Tilburg had been diagnosed with the disease after recently returning from a trip to Italy, which is experiencing an outbreak of more than 500 confirmed cases.
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Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

I just wanted to pop into the forum again (anyone remember me?) and say HEY.

Before the Coronavirus kills us all, of course.

I'm scared.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

so the people who are treated, sent home all ok and tested positive of the virus again.
That means the virus stays in your system for a long time to infect others?
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

First case in NZ. A man in his 60s who flew in from Tehran on Wednesday. Flights from Iran now suspended.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

28-Feb-2020:

COVID-19 stats:
Cases reported: 83,704 (up from 82,446 yesterday)
Deaths: 2,859 (up from 2,808 yesterday

Cases reported in the US - 60 (includes 36 Diamond Princess cases)

Cases reported in Canada - 14 (up from 11 yesterday)

More cases have been reported outside China.
  • South Korea - 2,337 (up from 1,766 cases yesterday) - 13 deaths
  • Italy has 655 (up from 453 yesterday) - 17 people have died.
  • Iran - 270 (up from 245 cases yesterday) - 26 deaths
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Well this would be bad if it is the case....

The coronavirus has an ‘HIV-like’ mutation which helps it to bind with human cells at a terrifyingly effective rate, Chinese scientists have claimed. A new study from Nankai University alleged that Covid-19’s ability to infect cells is up to 1,000 times more powerful than SARS, a coronavirus which caused 774 deaths in 17 countries between November 2002 and July 2003.


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/27/coro...pqklT0x67RD1I_6CVVuAkdRGdH3JYKVTM?ito=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/
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How far away we are from the opening post in this thread.
 
Re: 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

rareboy said:
Well this would be bad if it is the case....
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In the past, we would have expected to see this kind of research finding coming from the CDC or NIH. Instead, we're hearing about it from the Nankai University via the South China Morning Post.


There have been a few articles in the press talking about supply chain issues since a lot of raw materials used in manufacturing originate in China.

Something else that healthcare experts are warning about is shortages of generic medications. In the past, generic medications were made in Puerto Rico and India but as hedge funds have bought up generic pharmaceutical companies, the generic companies have become more dependent upon drug manufacturers in China that are cheaper.

The experts are now recommending that if you are prescribed generic medications that you take routinely, it would be a good time to get a 90 day supply of that medication.

Coronavirus could lead to drug shortages in US [ABC]
About 90% of the active ingredients used by U.S. companies in drug manufacturing come from China, which has prompted politicians and public health experts to express concern over potential shortages of common generics...

To date, manufacturing disruptions caused by the novel coronavirus, or COVID-19, haven't led to reported shortages in the U.S., but the Food and Drug Administration said it's closely monitoring the situation...

"We don't want people to panic," Jacobson said, but "patients might try to position to have a couple months ahead just in case. We do have to recognize that if everybody tried to do that, it would exacerbate the problem, but that's what I would have my family do."

Wessel said although "hoarding is something we should avoid," with most providers, "it's pretty hard in this day and age to stock up when your insurance company will limit you to a 90-day supply."
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