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On Topic Discussion 2019 Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2)

metta said:
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I'm going to try and get the Novavax, probably in November. I have already had J&J, Moderna and Pfizer. I asked a Dr. Monica Gandhi about it, and she thought it was a good idea to get the virus differently. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1700854098755563660.html

Almost everyone I know has had COVID at least once. I'm one of the few that has not had it. US Government stats show about 77.5% have been infected at least once.



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More Novavax information:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1709282426298507310
 
metta said:
I finally got it. Visiting my friend every day at a rehabilitation center who is recovering from a broken leg. Found out that her roommate had covid, so I took the test, and it came back positive.
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Ugh. The recent variants are incredibly contagious.

In other bad news: That puts you into a 60 day wait before you can get a booster. :(
 
metta said:
I'm hoping I can get it before November 10th. That is the last day I can get it outside my plan and Kaiser is only giving Pfizer. :(
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One of the exclusion questions is whether you've had COVID in the past 60 days. The thought is that the high level antibodies created by the COVID infection would likely suppress the T-cell immune response from a booster.
 
I asked my GP for it but he said he didn't have it because it didn't work.
 
Peloso said:
I asked my GP for it but he said he didn't have it because it didn't work.
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Hmm... I'm not sure what he meant.

The booster is being distributed through private pharmacy supply chain distributors not through the Federal government this time, so the supplies have been inconsistent.

I've been sending people to pharmacies (CVS, Walgreens, et al) and public health clinics because they've been getting the majority of the supplies this time. The private clinics have had trouble getting supplies.

In most cases, you have to make an appointment because they have to know hot many doses to thaw and add diluent to since both Pfizer and Moderna have to be kept frozen until adminisration.
 
KaraBulut said:
Hmm... I'm not sure what he meant.

The booster is being distributed through private pharmacy supply chain distributors not through the Federal government this time, so the supplies have been inconsistent.

I've been sending people to pharmacies (CVS, Walgreens, et al) and public health clinics because they've been getting the majority of the supplies this time. The private clinics have had trouble getting supplies.

In most cases, you have to make an appointment because they have to know how many doses to thaw and add diluent to since both Pfizer and Moderna have to be kept frozen until administration.
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Interesting. In the UK this winter, Covid boosters are limited to the over-65s and certain vulnerable groups and are delivered by the NHS. Last winter it was given to the over-50s. I don't believe that it's possible to source the vaccine privately. The NHS is providing flu vaccines for the same groups, but it's possible for others to obtain it privately at pharmacies and similar. I understand the typical cost is £20. My employer is picking up that charge for anyone who wants a flu vaccination but is not included in the NHS scheme on the basis that £20 is cheaper than having someone off sick.
 
Peloso said:
I asked my GP for it but he said he didn't have it because it didn't work.
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Did you ask him what he meant, or was it said dismissively so as to end the conversation (ala butthurt insurrectionist)?
 
metta said:
I finally got it. Visiting my friend every day at a rehabilitation center who is recovering from a broken leg. Found out that her roommate had covid, so I took the test, and it came back positive.
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Are you symptomatic?
 
unloadonme said:
Interesting. In the UK this winter, Covid boosters are limited to the over-65s and certain vulnerable groups and are delivered by the NHS. Last winter it was given to the over-50s. I don't believe that it's possible to source the vaccine privately. The NHS is providing flu vaccines for the same groups, but it's possible for others to obtain it privately at pharmacies and similar. I understand the typical cost is £20. My employer is picking up that charge for anyone who wants a flu vaccination but is not included in the NHS scheme on the basis that £20 is cheaper than having someone off sick.
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The original two-shot series of the COVID-19 vaccine were based upon the original Wuhan virus. In the Fall of 2022, a reformulated booster containing the original strain and the BA.4 and BA.5 variants was released. Only 17% of the US population got the Fall 2022 booster, so we have a large population of people who have low immunity to the new variants (thankfully, around 45% of the population over 65 got their booster) due to the low update of boosters in the general population and the fact that antibody levels drop within 60 days after a booster or after COVID-19 infection.

The US requires health insurance carriers to cover vaccines at 100%, so recommending it for all age groups ensures that health insurance will cover the cost for anyone who wants the booster.

The UK appears to be doing a targeted vaccination program to try to lower hospital admissions which are much higher in the over age 50 population. Their program is offering the 2023 booster to healthcare workers, immunocompromised people and anyone who has frequent contact with someone in these high-risk groups. It's a valid strategy but it doesn't address two issues with COVID-19 infections: new infections result in more new variants and new infections can trigger complications like long COVID.

The original vaccine with the Wuhan strain has been very successful at lowering the incidence of pneumonia and other complications of COVID infection. Some of the latest research indicates that the vaccines also lowered the risk of long COVID by about 70%.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
Did you ask him what he meant, or was it said dismissively so as to end the conversation (ala butthurt insurrectionist)?
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No, he's not anti-vaxx, justy a little goofy. Not worth pursuing. If he doesn't have it, he doesn't have it. Maybe I'll go to a goddamn CVS or Walgreens or something. My soul tries to leave my body whenever I walk into one of those stores.

I'm wondering if I'm one of the naturally immune. I've been exposed twice (atleast), never get colds or any bugs. Nevertheless, I still wear my mask on the subway. I'm pretty much the only person wearing one a lot of the time. Even the Asians, who were getting assaulted right and left ("China virus") have pretty much stopped wearing them. That's one good thing about living here: you can be weird or eccentric and no one cares.
 
Today I went through an Alice in Wonderland maze, trying to get the new bivalent Covid vaccine with Medicare coverage. I made an appointment online at my local Walgreen's, only to find that there apparently was a problem in getting it covered. The woman at the pharmacy was on the phone for nearly 50 minutes, and then they put me on the phone to talk to Medicare. Finally it came down to apparently my Medicare Part D provider would not cover the Covid vaccine (KaraBulut, I note that you said that the US requires insurers to cover vaccines at 100%), and I could get it only if I paid $184 and change for it. (The Medicare Part D provider was assigned to me at random after I applied for a bunch of things on a government website). But guess what? They covered the RSV vaccine, and the Flu vaccine (the regular dose, not the senior dose, which I should qualify for). Anyway, I got the latter two vaccines, but I had to walk out without the Bivalent Covid vaccine that I went in for. *%%*:grrr:
 
Araucaria said:
Today I went through an Alice in Wonderland maze, trying to get the new bivalent Covid vaccine with Medicare coverage. I made an appointment online at my local Walgreen's, only to find that there apparently was a problem in getting it covered. The woman at the pharmacy was on the phone for nearly 50 minutes, and then they put me on the phone to talk to Medicare. Finally it came down to apparently my Medicare Part D provider would not cover the Covid vaccine (KaraBulut, I note that you said that the US requires insurers to cover vaccines at 100%), and I could get it only if I paid $184 and change for it. (The Medicare Part D provider was assigned to me at random after I applied for a bunch of things on a government website). But guess what? They covered the RSV vaccine, and the Flu vaccine (the regular dose, not the senior dose, which I should qualify for). Anyway, I got the latter two vaccines, but I had to walk out without the Bivalent Covid vaccine that I went in for. *%%*:grrr:
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There's a few things that puzzle me about your experience.

The bivalent vaccine was offered in the Fall of 2022. It is now obsolete because it contained the original Wuhan strain and the variant that was in circulation in the early part of 2022 (BA.4/BA.5).

The Fall 2023 vaccine is monovalent. It contains XBB.1.5 which was the variant in circulation earlier in 2023. In studies, the antibodies produced from the Fall 2023 vaccine offers cross-over coverage for the EG.5 and HV.1 variant which is what is currently predominant in the US.

Medicare covers the Fall 2023 vaccine under Part B (outpatient services).
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The confusion might have originated if you asked for the bivalent vaccine. Instead, ask for the current Fall 2023 booster.
 
Yeah, it looks like the pharmacy made a mistake of trying to get it covered by Part D when they should have known that Medicare Part B covered the Covid vaccine. They should have known that, especially since the chain has been putting signs out for free vaccines. It was probably a matter of not properly explaining to their staff how it should have been handled. I think I'll try again next week, but I'll call ahead to make sure they know how to cover it. And perhaps I'll go to another pharmacy, and hope it is a bit more up on the Medicare billing procedures. After all, they're getting reimbursed to offer the shot by Medicare, plus enough over to allow them a profit and make it worthwhile.

I think I misspoke about the bivalent. Actually I checked my card, and I already received the bivalent shot back in March, at a Pridefest, of all places. But I don't think that's what caused the confusion this time.
 
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