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Big Brother 15

I kind of prefer the finals to not have two competent and/or likable people in it. In my dream scenario of a F3 with Elissa, GM and Amanda (yeah, I know it'll never happen), Amanda would delusionally evict GM at F3 because she thinks she could beat Elissa in the finals and then Elissa would go on to crush Amanda in the jury vote. Because losing in the finals is the most embarrassing and therefore satisfying demise for the season's villain IMO.

Jun vs. Alison, Jordan vs. Natalie and even Lisa vs. Danielle were perfect for this. Dan vs. Memphis was less so because they were both good players and likable people but Dan was just better. Feeling bad for the second placer is a blah narrative to me.
 
slipintothefog said:
I kind of prefer the finals to not have two competent and/or likable people in it. In my dream scenario of a F3 with Elissa, GM and Amanda (yeah, I know it'll never happen), Amanda would delusionally evict GM at F3 because she thinks she could beat Elissa in the finals and then Elissa would go on to crush Amanda in the jury vote. Because losing in the finals is the most embarrassing and therefore satisfying demise for the season's villain IMO.
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God we're so alike. This is literally my dream scenario too! It's really bugging Amanda too that Elissa is getting further than her in the game so having her actually get that close and then LOSE to the space cadet? PERFECTION.

Although LOL who are we kidding? Like Amanda could ever beat Elissa and GM in the final HOH comp? GM would smoke them in the Part 1 Endurance and Elissa would slay Amanda in the Part 2 Physical/Skill. The best we could hope for is Elissa beating GM in Part 3 (totally by accident because she'd be guessing all the answers on her Valium-fried brain) and then smartly taking Amanda to the finals "even though this tooootally disguuuuuuuuusts me...I have to evict you, Gina Marie."
 
joesman said:
I have to go on record and say that next to E D, Jun is my least favorite winner.
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Somehow, Jun believes she's rehabbed herself enough to go on and criticize Julie Chen for all of her cosmetic surgery done to get rid of her "Asianess."
 
UPDATE: The world has turned on it's side. Elissa has decided she wants to keep Amanda. Unclear why. (Maybe it has somethign to do with a conversation earlier where she told McCrae that he and Amanda are the only people she can win against in the end?). Andy is stressing out to GM and Spencer up in HOH because if Elissa votes with McCrae and he doesn't McCrae will know that he's not loyal to them. His current plan is vote to evict Amanda. Let it be a tie and try and claim he was voted for Spencer and Elissa double crossed them. Meanwhile McCrae and Amanda are trying to rope Judd in on this.
 
Judd has broken away from McCrae and Amanada. He has confirmed with Andy/Spencer that he still intends to vote Amanda out. It should be a 2:2 tie with GM breaking the vote (with some crazy speech undoubtedly) to send Amanda home.
 
falconfan said:
UPDATE: The world has turned on it's side. Elissa has decided she wants to keep Amanda.
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Step one of Sgt Pepper and slipintothefog's "Elissa beats Amanda in the finals" dream scenario complete. Now let's hope for hell to freeze over and for GM not to evict Amanda.

I forgot that Spencer was the replacement nom. GM miraculously voting out Spencer would heighten my entertainment twofold by keeping all three crazy women in the house AND eliminating a piece of irrelevant flotsam who is destined to be washed all the way to and beaten in the finals. MAKE IT HAPPEN, STATEN ISLAND TRAINWRECK!!
 

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We over here in conspiracy land are just amazed no one saw this coming. Where would such an idea come from? Any little birds pooping messages in the DR? If this happens I will be sick to my stomach.

from Jokers:

Allysa comes out of DR and suddenly "she" got the great idea to keep Amanda
I guess whoever posted that Amandas producer friends would try to rig the show were right.
 
joesman said:
We over here in conspiracy land are just amazed no one saw this coming. Where would such an idea come from? Any little birds pooping messages in the DR? If this happens I will be sick to my stomach.

from Jokers:

Allysa comes out of DR and suddenly "she" got the great idea to keep Amanda
I guess whoever posted that Amandas producer friends would try to rig the show were right.
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This is the reason I think this will be my last season watching this show. The producers of this show are the just plain lazy and completely devoid of talent. If they they were even remotely competent they would be able to produce an interesting show without rigging anything. Bunch of lazy hacks. And if Amanda is a friend of the show's executive producer she should have never been cast in the first place.
 
Being friends with the right people unfortunately is a problem with the casting of most of CBS's shows these days. Erika Shay was always casting her friends (such as one Parvati Shallow, actually) on Survivor when she was doing their casting. Or there's always stories of newer cast members being friends with older ones and that seemingly helps them get on their shows. And that's without all the cross-contamination i.e. Jethan, Jordeff and Brenchel on TAR, Russell's brother on BB, Hayden on Survivor, etc.
 
THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!

I expect it will change before Thursday and Amanda will just get voted out almost unanimously, but man if it doesn't then:

1) It actually totally makes sense for Elissa to keep Amanda since Elissa is the #1 target for all the guys (minus Judd, maybe) if Amanda goes and that puts her in huge jeopardy during double eviction. If she cuts a deal with McCranda and they both stay, then ostensibly during double eviction, the rest of the house will be going after McCranda still and they'll be going after Judd/Spencer.

2) What I (and slipintothefog) need now is for Elissa/Amanda/GM to pow wow and form a girls-to-the-end alliance so GM can break the vote in Amanda's favor and OMG that would be so awesome if they ended up in the F3 that I don't even want to give myself the false hope of that happening.

3) Even if the plan doesn't work, a tie vote is better for drama, since GM's tie-breaker will be live and undoubtedly insane.
 
Spencer has a trip to the Bahamas AND 10,000. He's done absolutely nothing the entire season. Everyone should want him sitting next to them in final 2.
 
joesman said:
We over here in conspiracy land are just amazed no one saw this coming. Where would such an idea come from? Any little birds pooping messages in the DR? If this happens I will be sick to my stomach.

from Jokers:

Allysa comes out of DR and suddenly "she" got the great idea to keep Amanda
I guess whoever posted that Amandas producer friends would try to rig the show were right.
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Wow! That's is shocking and disgusting.

And you have fan boys here who probably don't even see it.

Didn't I say there were going to try some sick shit to keep Allison Grodner's (BB Executive Producer's) friend, Amanda, in the house?
 
I remember reading this a few years ago but I can't find the article.

Basically, it said that a Survivor contestant sued in the past over the fact that they couldn't possibly have won the money because the show was rigged but a judge dismissed the case on the grounds that "Reality" type series have a cast and are considered dramas. Even if money and prizes are involved. Therefore, they do not fall under the same guidelines as game shows, e.g. Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune.
 
Adrock-JD said:
I remember reading this a few years ago but I can't find the article.

Basically, it said that a Survivor contestant sued in the past over the fact that they couldn't possibly have won the money because the show was rigged but a judge dismissed the case on the grounds that "Reality" type series have a cast and are considered dramas. Even if money and prizes are involved. Therefore, they do not fall under the same guidelines as game shows, e.g. Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune.
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It's the same reason the WWE can't call itself a sport; sports are regulated by commissions and with all the roids allegedly in the WWE, it would make no sense for the WWE to put itself in a position to be regulated.
 
Adrock-JD said:
I remember reading this a few years ago but I can't find the article.

Basically, it said that a Survivor contestant sued in the past over the fact that they couldn't possibly have won the money because the show was rigged but a judge dismissed the case on the grounds that "Reality" type series have a cast and are considered dramas. Even if money and prizes are involved. Therefore, they do not fall under the same guidelines as game shows, e.g. Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune.
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You're thinking of Stacey Stillman from Survivor:Borneo. She sued shortly after the first season blew up, claming that the producers influenced her contestants to keep the more entertaining Rudy over her. She lost because as you say this is a reality show and not a gameshow. To which I say... I couldn't care less. I don't know if anyone on this board has ever seen a reality show contract. I have. They are think and more often than not say in at least five places that the producers are allowed to change the rules at any moment with no reason. The show is made to entertain you. Their job is to entertain you. Their job is not to find the best athlete or the smartest person. Watch the olympics or the spelling bee if that's what you want. That's not what I can about because NO ONE on these shows DESERVES or EARNS anything. Why do those 10-20 people deserve the shot to win money that millions of American's cna use? Is it because they've done something great and humanitarian? Have they proven to have a superior ability warranting some sort of reward? Nope. They're given the opportunity because people thought they'd be entertaining. I'd rather watch somethign than's interesting than fair. Because that's what these people signed up for.
 
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