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Botched Execution in Oklahoma

eastofeden said:
If Jesus would just save us from his fan club I might give Christianity a second look.
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I kept telling that to many Campus Crusade people while at OSU. They didn't seem to grasp that I was serious when I said that if I hadn't already concluded that the Gospel was the truth, they would have driven me away.
 
People all over the world think the United States is barbaric. Oklahoma proved them right.
 
palemale said:
People all over the world think the United States is barbaric. Oklahoma proved them right.
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Point of interest - people all over the world think the United States is a bully, and comprised of crazy religious, trigger-happy, big mac-fed, fat morons who don't know shit about anything outside of their country. They don't, however, think you're barbaric...

The above is not my opinion btw, nor do I share it.
 
The Warner execution has been stayed until November 13.

The Oklahoma attorney general's office on Thursday agreed to a 180-day stay of execution for death-row inmate Charles Warner, while the state investigates last week’s botched execution of Clayton Lockett.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/08/oklahoma-180-day-stay-execution-charles-warner
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Veterinarians are not permitted to use Oklahoma's execution cocktail on animals.

An injection of chemicals used to execute death row inmates can cause such excruciating pain that veterinarians are banned from using them to put down animals, according to one of the most thorough reviews ever undertaken of the administration of the death penalty.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...njection-execution-drugs-constitution-animals
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Are we really arguing with Jack about Christ?
 
No one likes to electrocute them anymore? Hanging is out of fashion? There's just something soooooooo 1890's about a firing squad?

Of course because it's supposed to be "humane."
 
Rolyo85 said:
I know, I look at the thread and go all nostalgic and "daaaw".
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I can't think of anything more tedious than Jack's political talking points than the ones he has about religion.
 
I've always wondered what happened to the GUILLOTINE as an execution method?

In my feeling, there is no other method in existence that is more humane. Death is absolutely instantaneous, and is impossible for it to be a long and drawn-out thing, because it is pretty much foolproof.

Uhh...but it looks...GRUESOME! Can't possibly do THAT...

Or, for that matter, why not prepare the condemned with anaesthetic and related prep-drugs, the same way it is done for somebody going in for (say) open heart surgery, and administer the lethal drugs under the anaesthesia?

Or, better yet, join the civilized world and simply stop these executions...
 
Guillotine is not actually instantaneous. There is a fair bit of evidence that severed heads can maintain consciousness and awareness of their situation for a few seconds.
 
bankside said:
Guillotine is not actually instantaneous. There is a fair bit of evidence that severed heads can maintain consciousness and awareness of their situation for a few seconds.
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I had read that, plus there are countless documents indicating that eyes followed people or heads appeared to try to mouth words post-beheading. Very creepy.
 
I don't feel sorry for him. Granted he is occasionally sad, usually plagiaristic, and always amusing, but I don't see anything to feel sorry about.

Lie down with dogs and all that....
 
xbuzzerx said:
I had read that, plus there are countless documents indicating that eyes followed people or heads appeared to try to mouth words post-beheading. Very creepy.
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Replace the blade with a hydraulic ram; replace the neck as target with the head.

The ram can squash the entire head to mush in less time than the eyes could tell the brain it was coming, if the subject was face-up.
 
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