Brent from CF

[PhunkSpunk]

but here's my thing - doesn't this idea at all bother you? that a "str8" guy may get into this specific line of work, find satisfaction in fucking guys and being with men over time, but then decide to repress that and get married, have kids, and probably vote for their favorite republican anti-gay-rights presidential candidate?

Don't you think that's jumping from 'A' to at least 'W'?

I don't think economics can be discounted. I suspect the number of str8 guys who are willing to model for these sites may be yet another symptom of NAFTA fall-out and the disappearing blue-collar middle class: they have dismal prospects, and when faced with the Hobson's choice of a night shift at BK or doing a hitch in Iraq, sucking dick for a couple of grand might not seem all that . . . distasteful.

we should be holding these boys to a higher standard, rather than allowing them to use our lifestyle as some "passing experience" from which they can make a quick buck before they get married.

Another of my problems with the gay movement is that it has deprived adolescent guys of 'passing (same sex) experience(s)'. I mean I never was in a circle jerk, nor knew any guy who was. Even at 11 or 12 we knew that was 'gay'. However circle jerks are so much a part of popular folklore that I expect they were fairly prevalent prior to the advent of gay rights. Passing same sex experiences may be a part of normal sexual maturation.

i don't like to think so. i STRUGGLED with accepting my homosexuality.

Dude, nobody struggles with homosexuality quite like the 'masculine-identified' homosexual. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they accounted for a significant percentage of teen suicides. I mean you discover you like guys and suddenly see your future exiled to this Gehenna of bitchy queens and Chelsea 'Bois'.

i'm sure the christian conservatives are applauding the CF boys for how they treat their homosexual feelings - get that "experience" out of your system, then get married to a woman, as God intended.

No, they probably put a conspiracy spin on it and see it as part of the 'gay agenda' haha!

The late holocaust survivor and cultural critic George Steiner made the pointed observation that 'anti-antisemitism was Western Civilizations revenge on the Jews for imposing Mosaic law on it'. Among Christianity's earliest cultural victims was the masculine-identified homosexuality of Classical Antiquity -- which we owe in large measure to that Jew-hating Jew and tortured closet case Saul of Tarsus, b.k.a. St. Paul.

i personally just think it sucks that we can apply a different standard to these guys, just because they "seem" or claim to be straight.

But you see we don't apply a different standard. As a culture we have a 'suck one cock' definition of 'gay identity'.

and, unlike ANY of the gay-for-pays that i've seen in my lifetime, they appear to be enjoying it as much as any nelly fag would.

Yes, sex is fun. I have enjoyed sex with women and probably could enjoy it again, only no where near as much as I enjoy it with a man. I don't see myself having sex with a woman in the future, and therefore define myself as homosexual.

Nelly fags are wet rags in bed.

and if they were truly straight, they'd head over to fratmen and just earn tons of money at the fratpad doing 1,000 SOLO JACK OFF SCENES.

A grand seems to be the going rate for a JO. However, JOs are usually -- pardon the pun -- 'one shot deals'. Nobody wants to see the same model JO twice. The pay scale increases significantly when a model agrees to do 'stuff'.

i'd rather not give these boys a free pass to use our LIFESTYLE as some passing, capricious "EXPERIENCE" that they can use to earn money before they marry a straight woman and turn their backs on homosexuals.

Do you seriously define 'lifestyle' strictly in terms of sexual behavior? Don't you think that's a tad confining? These guys are probably not embracing the gay 'lifestyle' in all its fabulous excess -- parading through WeHo, the Castro, Chelsea, etc. in tank tops two sizes too small, dishing Brit over cosmos, etc. Don't get me started!

but you know - good on them for making a quick buck and capitalizing on the sad, pathetic sex drives of us "gay" men who have been duped into believing that being "gay" is something more than just a passing "experience."

Save your ire for the more unscrupulous webmasters. I'm sure some of these boys (strictly speaking) are going to have some serious issues down the road as a result of their porn careers

 

[PhunkSpunk]

Passing same sex experiences may be a part of normal sexual maturation.

Forgot to complete this thought. Please add '. . . just as Dr. Sex reported way back in 1948 in 'Sex and the American Male' (i.e. 90% of subjects reported some homosexual experience.)'

 

[dannybye]

It was just that study we read in health class that convinced me that my experiences with some of the neighborhood boys were nothing more than a passing faze. But a wife and 2 kids later I know different. Mind you I'm not totally turned off by women but the ones I find attractive are not not your typical women. And when it comes to PORN I only look at GAY PORN!!

 

[billybob109]

witht he one video with jared during the shower scene at the end he tells corbin that he converte another one

 

[squiggle]

I don't know how anyone can say he is indifferent to gay sex when he's so passionate in his scenes.