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It isn't that.

In a dystopian America where the poorest are now stealing basics, the police probably expect the superstores reaping exorbitant record profits to pay for their own fucking security.

And I agree. Why do taxpayers need to subsidize the Waltons or the other corporations any more.
 
I'm curious,

Just how much authority does store security have?

If they detain a suspect, aren't they holding them only until the police arrive? How long can they hold someone, and where do they keep them?

I doubt anyone wants them to be able to build their own prison system and start locking people up without a trial. LOL
 
BTW; I can't get to the article. They want me to subscribe to their site.
 
I'm curious,

Just how much authority does store security have?

If they detain a suspect, aren't they holding them only until the police arrive? How long can they hold someone, and where do they keep them?

I doubt anyone wants them to be able to build their own prison system and start locking people up without a trial. LOL
They are a deterrent.

But calculate the costs to the state of someone apprehended and charged for the theft of $10 worth of tampons.

For living in the richest country in the world where the poorest literally have to steal necessities...this is the cost of business for the wealthiest corpaorations.

Which I as a shareholder of the biggest ones in Canada have no problem absorbing some loss.
 
I don't think store security would be much of a deterrent if they didn't have the local law backing them up.

Anyway, if people would stop fighting online shopping, these big open-shelves stores wouldn't be necessary.

Oh, and it's the consumers who absorb/eat the cost. Just like healthcare.
 
It isn't that.

In a dystopian America where the poorest are now stealing basics, the police probably expect the superstores reaping exorbitant record profits to pay for their own fucking security.

And I agree. Why do taxpayers need to subsidize the Waltons or the other corporations any more.
Society cannot have it both ways. If the store cannot use force against thieves without getting sued, then it must be the function of law enforcement to enforce the law.

Your suggestion that the poorest are compelled to steal the (nebuous) "basics" is not credible. You can easily find the most commonly stolen items, and it isn't basic food, but premium goods for resale. It is simply a corrupt morality that justifies theft as a lifestyle by those who will not work.




Thieves are shitty people. The movement to excuse them as needy instead of grabby is a disinformation campaign based on a philosophy instead of facts.
 
I'm curious,

Just how much authority does store security have?

If they detain a suspect, aren't they holding them only until the police arrive? How long can they hold someone, and where do they keep them?

I doubt anyone wants them to be able to build their own prison system and start locking people up without a trial. LOL
It's not fair to ask a store security officer to shoot thieves when the police get paid to do it.
 
I'm curious,

Just how much authority does store security have?

If they detain a suspect, aren't they holding them only until the police arrive? How long can they hold someone, and where do they keep them?

I doubt anyone wants them to be able to build their own prison system and start locking people up without a trial. LOL
In the UK they can apprehend someone and make a citizen's arrest
They then have to hand them over to a policeman
 
Do these stores carry theft insurance?

If they do, don't they have to have a police report for each incident? At least on big ticket items, I'd think.
 
One of my Nephews tried to retain a shop lifter working at a Bradlee department store long ago.

He was bitten badly in both arms.
I casually knew a cashier at a local grocery store. She told me of an experience she'd had at a previous store, probably in the 1990s, where someone decided to take a six pack of beer without paying. A stocker chased him--and outside an accomplice of the thief stabbed the stocker. I gather he survived; however, the clerk told me she was on the phone to corporate the next day, and told them: "You're transferring me to another store OR ELSE!"

What made me cringe was that I knew the store where the stabbing took place. It was about a mile from my childhood home, and it was the store we'd go to at night if we needed a single item or two. I'd bet my family sold that house not too long before that stabbing took place.
 
I am sure that target will be closing down in a few years.

San Francisco lost a lot of businesses due to robberies.
 
One Sabbath he was going through the grainfields, and as they made their way, his disciples began to pluck heads of grain. And the Pharisees were saying to him, “Look, why are they doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath?” And he said to them, “Have you never read what David did, when he was in need and was hungry, he and those who were with him: how he entered the house of God, in the time of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the bread of the Presence, which it is not lawful for any but the priests to eat, and also gave it to those who were with him?” And he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is lord even of the Sabbath.” Mark 2:23-28

Certainly there is a circumstance where one can justify "stealing", taking a chain saw from Home Depot doesn't qualify. Smash and grab from a jewelry store is not on the list either. There are a myriad of places where food can be handed out in this nation, you need a tampon?, they have those also.
There are far too many places where one can get help today rather than to steal.
I would add to this that too many employers think it's fine to lie, cheat and steal from workers to get a better bottom line.
 
I would add to this that too many employers think it's fine to lie, cheat and steal from workers to get a better bottom line.
Finally someone said it. I would add to that list: public utilities, urban metro systems, banks, insurance companies, big oil, big pharma, big just about everything else, and the hundreds of thousand manufacturing companies that have been rapidly raising their prices despite standard increases in production costs and/or material costs. It's called price gouging. They do it because they can.

In the last 90 minutes, I've stolen a subway ride from the MTA, and three bunches of spinach, a bag of oranges, and two cans of pumpkin puree from Whole Foods. And I'll do it again.

I know this will cause the fabric of society to unravel but I gotta feed my cat.

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Society cannot have it both ways. If the store cannot use force against thieves without getting sued, then it must be the function of law enforcement to enforce the law.

Your suggestion that the poorest are compelled to steal the (nebuous) "basics" is not credible. You can easily find the most commonly stolen items, and it isn't basic food, but premium goods for resale. It is simply a corrupt morality that justifies theft as a lifestyle by those who will not work.




Thieves are shitty people. The movement to excuse them as needy instead of grabby is a disinformation campaign based on a philosophy instead of facts.
Sorry. The retailers should pay the cost of protecting their shit. Instead, they are dodging taxes like thieves themselves.

They can't have it both ways.
 
If you steal from a thief then you are no better than a thief. Thou shalt not covet, thou shalt not steal...
 
If you steal from a thief then you are no better than a thief. Thou shalt not covet, thou shalt not steal...
This only applies to the little people.
 
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