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Effeminacy or masculinity has little to do with physical looks. It's pretty much all about the way a man comports himself. Just look at some gay porn stars. I've seen some who look like dock workers who would cut your throat if you pissed them off, but when they open their mouths Gucci handbags start flying out.

To me, masculinity has much more to do with the level of confidence a man has than most anything else.
 
DANNO said:
I agreed with you up until this part. I don't see a corelation between masculinity and confidence. I know some guys who are very effeminate who are extremely confident. One of my closest friends in fact. He will tell you what he wants, how he wants it, and when. He knows what he wants and what he is talking about. That doesnt make him masculine or feminine, just makes him confident.
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There's nothing to "agree or disagree" to. What one man considers masculine is not necessarily what another man considers masculine. You can say "in my opinion, masculinity is...................", but you can't say that my opinion of what makes a man masculine is wrong. Where I made my mistake was not prefacing my statement with "IMO".

There is no right or wrong here. It's all the the eyes of the beholder...|
 
hornymikey said:
nothing to do with confidence at all... its just a different way of phisically behaving... from my side, a masc turns me on, but its not like to be feminine is bad

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Please see my previous response. Again, what you consider is masculine is not necessarily what I consider is masculine. Neither of us is necessarily right or wrong...|
 
Snickers52 said:
There's nothing to "agree or disagree" to. What one man considers masculine is not necessarily what another man considers masculine. You can say "in my opinion, masculinity is...................", but you can't say that my opinion of what makes a man masculine is wrong. Where I made my mistake was not prefacing my statement with "IMO".

There is no right or wrong here. It's all the the eyes of the beholder...|
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Actually you are wrong, Snickers. A man's confidence has absolutely nothing to do with whether he is masculine or feminine.

Oh... and that is my opinion!
 
I think there are many levels of effeminacy. You can look effeminate (remindful of a feminine woman) and behave in a "butch" way, and you can have lots of muscle and body hair and behave very effeminately. There are also other combinations. I think you are asking us to define a stereotype. Well, if I must, and off the top of my head, I would define an effeminate guy as displaying the following characteristics:

1. A heavily inflected speech and high-pitched voice, many times with a lisp
2. A thin, non-muscular, petite body type (and by petite I don't mean short)
3. Made-up hair, and lots of it. Highlights are many times a trademark
4. A feminine walk

And what does Jetsonboy define as masculine in a guy?:

1. Muscles
2. Body hair and/or facial hair
3. A lower-pitch voice and a masculine talk
4. A general down-to-earth attitude

Again, these are strictly some characteristics I associate with each of the two traits you are attempting to define, and there is a myriad of qualities that can go along with these items.
 
effeminate
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effeminate[1,adjective]effeminate[2,noun]

Main Entry: 1ef·fem·i·nate
Pronunciation: -n&t
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin effeminatus, from past participle of effeminare to make effeminate, from ex- + femina woman -- more at FEMININE
1 : having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
2 : marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement <effeminate art> <an effeminate civilization>
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masculine
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masculine[1,adjective]masculine[2,noun]

Main Entry: 1mas·cu·line
Pronunciation: 'mas-ky&-l&n
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English masculin, from Latin masculinus, from masculus, noun, male, diminutive of mas male
1 a : MALE b : having qualities appropriate to or usually associated with a man
2 : of, relating to, or constituting the gender that ordinarily includes most words or grammatical forms referring to males <masculine nouns>
3 a : having or occurring in a stressed final syllable <masculine rhyme> b : having the final chord occurring on a strong beat <masculine cadence>
- mas·cu·line·ly adverb
- mas·cu·lin·i·ty /"mas-ky&-'li-n&-tE/ noun
 
nay, I would say

feminine:effeminate::masculine:mannish

There might be a Latinate word for mannish, but I can't think of one.
 
jetsonboy said:
I think there are many levels of effeminacy. You can look effeminate (remindful of a feminine woman) and behave in a "butch" way, and you can have lots of muscle and body hair and behave very effeminately. There are also other combinations. I think you are asking us to define a stereotype. Well, if I must, and off the top of my head, I would define an effeminate guy as displaying the following characteristics:

1. A heavily inflected speech and high-pitched voice, many times with a lisp
2. A thin, non-muscular, petite body type (and by petite I don't mean short)
3. Made-up hair, and lots of it. Highlights are many times a trademark
4. A feminine walk
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I don't necessarily agree with you. Being petite doesn't make you feminine, if that's true then most 15 to 18 year olds are feminine. Most teen boys are skinny and won't gain weight even if they eat like pigs (ehem like me).
 
jetsonboy said:
I think there are many levels of effeminacy. You can look effeminate (remindful of a feminine woman) and behave in a "butch" way, and you can have lots of muscle and body hair and behave very effeminately. There are also other combinations. I think you are asking us to define a stereotype. Well, if I must, and off the top of my head, I would define an effeminate guy as displaying the following characteristics:

1. A heavily inflected speech and high-pitched voice, many times with a lisp
2. A thin, non-muscular, petite body type (and by petite I don't mean short)
3. Made-up hair, and lots of it. Highlights are many times a trademark
4. A feminine walk

And what does Jetsonboy define as masculine in a guy?:

1. Muscles
2. Body hair and/or facial hair
3. A lower-pitch voice and a masculine talk
4. A general down-to-earth attitude

Again, these are strictly some characteristics I associate with each of the two traits you are attempting to define, and there is a myriad of qualities that can go along with these items.
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I agree with the intent of these 2 lists - they include the typical western CHARACTERISTICS of being thought of or considered 'effiminate' or 'masculine'. However, they also could be way off target in different cultures or at different time periods throughout history.
 
Of course. They are a reflection of typical western views on the subject because I live in the West. Again, I was catering to bj Eric's wish to receive definitions; I personally think each individual should be "appraised" on their femininity or masculinity taking many factors in consideration.
 
jetsonboy said:
2. A thin, non-muscular, petite body type (and by petite I don't mean short)
3. Made-up hair, and lots of it. Highlights are many times a trademark
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I disagree that these traits would make someone effeminate, while I do agree that they are not all that masculine, being this does not make one in any way effeminate. Also I have meet many guys that by your definition would be very masculine who spend more time on their hair then most people that I know. I personaly spned about 2 seconds on my hair, and most of that time is washing the product that I use off of my hands. But spending time on your appearance doesn't make anyone more effeminate.
 
I'm the type of guy that can decorate a room, match colors, and still beat the shit out of some smart ass guy that threatens me. As a matter of fact, I have beaten the snot out of several guys, though, not being a thug, I gave them ample chances to back down. I see both good and bad in effeminate and masculine. There is strong "You go girl" effeminate, and there is "Stay strong brother!" masculine. You also have the stereotypical effeminate weakling, acting more flamboyant than serious, and the ultra he-man muscle-bound brainless twit.
 
ravenstar said:
Why on earth would you bump a thread created 9 years before you joined JUB?
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I'm thinking that he just wanted to reveal Tybee's Jub screen name.

I seem to recall that Tybee said something about not revealing who he was here some time a few months ago


just noticed that Snicker52's account had some activity today


I wonder what's going on over at Tybee's board
 
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