"Gay for Pay"

[kornpone]

Isn't anyone else just sick to death of "straight men" having sex in gay porn films? Doesn't that just reek of self-loathing for a gay man to watch straight men have sex? Isn't it twisted and distorted for gay porn studios to say, "We don't want to show you real gay men having real gay sex. No, the only thing the audience should watch is fake sex and with straight men who wouldn't be caught dead doing this in real life." It's as if gay porn studios want to deny that there are hot gay men out there who would have hot gay sex on film. How fucked up is that???

 

[bma1983]

I agree with you. Although I don’t believe that a real str8 man would have sex with another man, even for money. I would like to see gay porn without the "str8/bi" men. I would like to see gay porn with gay men who love men.

 

[pjlikesporn]

While i agree that there are hot gay men out there, it doesn't change the fact that the straight guys having sex are also hot. It gets me totally hard in a way that gay sex just doesn't, and I think I'm entirely free of self-loathing when I say that.

However, I completely support your desire to see more gay scenes between gay performers, and I hope there's enough gay and straight gay porn to satisfy all of us.

 

[cliffified]

nah....straight men,gay men,they are men...and i like men...so no problem for me

 

[pausanias_usa]

Is it possible to even tell? apart from the sex act, do straight men look / act differently than gay men?

Interesting that probably quite a few people COULD tell the difference (i.e. "gaydar"). I've always wondered if the differences were socially-affected behavior, or innate.

I wonder if there is a group out there that wants to see "hetero for pay": gay men having sex with women. I'm sure some of us could / would do it for money.

Look for it in the comedy section? Just joking!

 

[SouthBeach30]

I just don't like watching straight men having gay sex when they are obviously not into being fucked. If they won't suck dick, won't rim and keep looking away at some porno playing offscreen or have their eyes closed so they can fantasize to keep hard. Or the straight guys who magically love being fucked, dildoed, fisted and strangely suck dick live a hoover on maximum suction. C'mon, do you porn producers seriously think we can't tell the guy is a fellow gay man?

Why put up with all that? Just get a gay guy to fuck the other gay guy on the set and we can watch some people fucking who acutally like it.

 

[wentworth]

Isn't anyone else just sick to death of "straight men" having sex in gay porn films? Doesn't that just reek of self-loathing for a gay man to watch straight men have sex? Isn't it twisted and distorted for gay porn studios to say, "We don't want to show you real gay men having real gay sex. No, the only thing the audience should watch is fake sex and with straight men who wouldn't be caught dead doing this in real life." It's as if gay porn studios want to deny that there are hot gay men out there who would have hot gay sex on film. How fucked up is that???

Everybody knows why gay people would "rather" watch straight men having sex; but it would be politically incorrect to say why.
Such issues are very "touchy" in the gay community...
So please don't feign surprise.

 

[cocktales]

Firstly KPone, let us welcum you to our great JUB, where all Gay friends meet and enjoy each other's company and oh yeah!....We also have great porn!!! lol

Don't know the answer....it will always continue because it makes lots and lots of $$$$ !!!!

So, you just have to cull out the bad till you find Gays doing Gays out there!

Still, if you come up with a good way/technique, we ALL appreciate the shout-out to us all!

 

[Soilwork]

Ok, first... most of those "straight" guys have boyfriends.

Most of them laugh when they think about the people who think they're really straight.

Some of them really are.. but enjoy the sex in some way.

Most of them just do it for the money.

Yeah, don't blame the company, blame the consumer who buys it.

And yes, some people may find it hot, but to be honet, i think there's lot to the "Self-loathing" thing too.

I've known gay men who go to gay bars full of hot gay men, spend their whole night flirting with the straight bartenders who just want their cash and then go home alone.. and they KNOW they're doing it but say that they dont WANT a gay man, they want straight men.. and as a compromise, they get nothing but $50 bucks lighter in tips at the end of the night.

 

[RenaissanceMan]

Personally, when it's obviously a "real straight guy" it's not really that great to watch (ie. when they don't even look into it...I think the best ones end up looking just like gay porn, basically because they probably are)

It just happens that this "gay for pay" porn tends to have hot guys for one reason or another.

 

[buzzj]

kornpone, I'm going to have to think about it a bit before I answer--- but thanks for a very interesting, thought-provoking thread! Welcome to JUB! I'm looking forward to your posts!!

 

[stromberg]

I agree that it's a fantasy, so it shouldn't matter...But for me, part of the fantasy is watching and thinking that I could actually get that guy (or a guy like him)...If he's known to be straight, then that destroys the illusion for me.

 

[Austin40acres]

Porn = Fantasy.

Str8 Men like to look at Lesbian porn because they'd like to be in the middle.

There isn't a person posting here (be honest!!!) who hasn't wanted to find out what a str8 guy has!!!

So, yeah, Fratmen, CorbinFisher, et al like to promote their "str8" men because it's fantasy.

If I were hot, thin, younger, and had a big dick, you'd all be jacking off to me. But, I'm old, fat and . . . well, none of your business . . . so I fantasize.

LOL

A4A

 

[Soilwork]

Just so we're clear on this.. Most of the Fratmen REALLY ARE striaght.. which is why they come to us as opposed to a site which is going to have them having sex.

JAcking off doesn't make you gay, you know.

 

[Austin40acres]

My bad.

I meant to generalize to all pornsites and that clearly isn't the case.

I apologize, soilwork.

But, CF, Boys Next Door, Dude Dorm . . . whatever. Don't you think most of them cater to the gay fantasy of "doing" a str8 guy? Is my point invalid???


A4A

 

[stromberg]

There isn't a person posting here (be honest!!!) who hasn't wanted to find out what a str8 guy has!!!


A4A

Don't straight men have the same thing that gay/bi men have?

 

[blooeyz]

Its all marketing, so nothing is real

 

[blueto21]

I agree with you 100% kornpone. It's sickening. I think most of these guys aren't really "straight" though. I mean think about it, no self-respecting straight man is going to have sex with another guy regardless of the amount of money. I know myself, as a self-respecting “gay” man would not be able to have sex with a woman for money. I don’t believe in compromising my integrity just for some cash. I have self-dignity and decency. So no, not everyone does crazy things for money. I really wish gay porn studios would start showing more sex scenes between two gay men rather than these bi/gay for pay guys. I want to see hot sex between two gay guys who are into it. I love men all the way but nothing is more unappealing than watching straight men have gay sex. It just ruins the fantasy for me and it’s disgusting and gross.

Welcome to JUB!

 

[RenaissanceMan]

I want to see hot sex between two gay guys who are into it.

Seems like some of these "straight guys" are more into it than the gay guys...

 

[blueto21]

Seems like some of these "straight guys" are more into it than the gay guys...

That's the whole point they're not straight. And speak for yourself Sister. Not every gay man has issues with anal sex.