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I found Jesus

DanC76

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I made the decision when I married at 23. I'm 30 now and have come to the conclusion that I can't live a heterosexual lifestyle anymore. I was lucky if I could it up for my wife once a week, if that. My wife just asked for a divorce last month! The truth is, I just need to come to terms with the fact that I'm more attracted men than women............. I don't think I will ever marry again, not a woman anyway!

Oh BTW ..... I have been praying all my life that God would deliver me from homosexuality, he never did!
 
Is there anyone else in here that ultimately made a decision and said, I'm going to live a heterosexual lifestyle. Yet continues to frequent this board?

Sure.. there's lots of them.

don't be like them.
 
You are what God made you damn it ! Just relax and thank him everyday for making you like boys...they smell much better than the alternative.

Go with the flow...don't fight Gods will ! ...and don't try fooling Him, for he knows exactly what's in your heart, remember, He put it there!
 
I usually don't get into religious discussions, but the question posed has a bit of truth seeking to it, so will add my two cents. What is taught in the various churches and isms is total and complete DOGMA. With the advent of Christ, no longer were any restrictions placed upon the individual in seeking out a direct connect with the higher power, first cause, God or whatever. If you allow for others to dictate what you should and should not do, then the confusion will always persist.

As long as you are being honest in your seeking, answers will come to you and guide you, where most would fail is in not being honest always. The truth is within and for as many people in the earth that there are, are that many paths to take getting there. Seek out your own answers and be willing to challenge the dogma you were brought up with. Work with that within your heart works best for you.

I was brought up Roman Catholic and at the age of 8 couldn't wait until I was of an age where I could tell the whole organization to piss off. I have found my own peace and way and being gay is not the sin or condemnation it once was. The Law of Moses was fulfilled with the advent of Christ, something totally forgotten. Read the histories of the first 500 years of the so called Christian Church, also read other translations of the bible instead of the King James version. The whole mess is seen and it bears a lot of manipulation by man. Seek what you are looking for within and don't let anyone tell you how to do it, what you should do or how you should live. I've seen to many of these preachy butts sow wild oats on Saturday night and go to church the next day and pray for a crop failure.

End of my rant.
 
My guess till I saw the interior of your post was that you found a nice hispanic gay guy name Jesus (Hesus :p)
 
If there is a God, why would he/she want you to pretend to be something that you are not? It just does not make any sense.



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I made the decision when I married at 23. I'm 30 now and have come to the conclusion that I can't live a heterosexual lifestyle anymore. I was lucky if I could it up for my wife once a week, if that. My wife just asked for a divorce last month! The truth is, I just need to come to terms with the fact that I'm more attracted men than women............. I don't think I will ever marry again, not a woman anyway!

Oh BTW ..... I have been praying all my life that God would deliver me from homosexuality, he never did!

I'm sorry that you and your wife went through that. The pressure in society to ignore who you are is just wrong. Society needs to support reality.
 
I made the decision when I married at 23. I'm 30 now and have come to the conclusion that I can't live a heterosexual lifestyle anymore. I was lucky if I could it up for my wife once a week, if that. My wife just asked for a divorce last month! The truth is, I just need to come to terms with the fact that I'm more attracted men than women............. I don't think I will ever marry again, not a woman anyway!

Oh BTW ..... I have been praying all my life that God would deliver me from homosexuality, he never did!

*Hugs* :)

This situation is never good, but at least you are comming to grips with it, and moving forward with your life.

And I am glad you liked my response !oops!
 
I guess I could decide to live a life of self-deprecation if that's what I want. I guess if it IS what I want, it doesn't make it wrong, but...what?
 
Live a life that makes you happy. There is nothing wrong with frequenting this forum even if you are married but if you're messing around with other guys, then that's a different story. It's cheating on your wife! LOL.

If you have conflicting thoughts on religion and being gay, go to the religion forum and take a look at the "why" thread.
 
Thanks dino, I let him take the wheel and we're headed to hetero land. I'm going to live out my life as a heterosexual male with conservative views and look forward to starting a *real* family someday. Why? Because it's the right thing to do. It took me 6 months on this board to distinguish between right and wrong.
Soooooo... you're saying homosexuality is wrong?

You want to live your life as a hetero, but is that what's in your heart?

What's IN YOUR HEART?

That's what you have to ask yourself. Don't force yourself to live a life you're not going to be happy living just because it's "the right thing to do." What's right, really? What's normal? Normal is in the eye of the beholder, my friend. Society pins labels on us, points fingers at us and tells us we're evil, vile, digusting fags that should be burned at the stake and not allowed to exist. Okay, so that's their opinion.

Does it make them right?

If it's in your heart to feel love and desire for the opposite sex, that's great, that's what works for you. But don't turn away from who and what you are just because some people may consider it wrong. If you do that, you're only substantiating what society tries to nail us with.

I don't believe in shoving my sexuality down everybody's throat. I'm not one of those "I'm gay and you're gonna like it" type of people. They don't HAVE to like it and I'm not asking them to. If you accept me as I am, fine. If not, there's nothing I can do about it, I'm not gonna throw it in your face and make you acknowledge my existence. But I'm sure as hell not gonna go hide in a hole or force myself to live a life that I know I'm not gonna be happy living.
 
And I also need to add here - your word "cured" bothered me some. Like being gay is a disease or something.

Being gay isn't just about sex. I mean, when people find out you're gay, the first thing on their mind is, "Ewww, you like to take it up the ass?"

As though that's all there is to it.

Well it's not.

I mean, you don't just wake up one day and say, "Gee, I think I'll turn gay and go suck some cock."

Being gay is also about the ability to fall in love with someone of the same sex. It's about caring and sharing and having a best friend. And developing deep feelings for that person. No, we don't ALL fall in love. Some of us have a hard time with the love concept, just like some straight people do. But when you're talking about bizarre fetishes and stuff like that - well hey, got news for ya, straight people have bizarre fetishes too.

I'm not trying to be a jerk about this because you seem to be having a tough time deciding on who and what you are. And I perfectly understand that. I'm just saying not to paint everyone with the same brush. Don't make blanket statements about bizarre fetishes and being "cured."

Take care and I hope you're happy in whatever decision you make. Because being happy and comfortable with yourself in what it all boils down to.
 
You people depress the hell out of me.

I mean, if you're going to believe that Jesus doesn't want you to be gay, then you have to wonder why you have homosexual feelings. Perhaps He doesn't want you to be straight, either. Maybe instead of devoting yourself to a family, He wants you to devote yourself to some higher cause. Maybe He meant for you to be celibate, did you ever think of that?

Just because you wish to blame Christ Himself instead of corrupt religious leaders for your conviction that homosexuality is wrong, it's no reason to drag some poor innocent woman into the mess and start making poor innocent children with her. Trust me, there are plenty enough children in the world, we don't need yours. And there are plenty enough women married to closeted homosexuals, just look at Maury Povitch or Jerry Springer for a week... we don't need another one.

A 'heterosexual lifestyle' is not the opposite of a homosexual lifestyle. Complete celibacy is. And the Apostle Paul advocated celibacy, even for straights, so why not model your behavior on his plan?

As others have already said, God knows full well what's in your heart; and to sin in the mind is the same as to sin in the flesh. If you think you're damned for your homosexual actions, then you're also damned for your homosexual desires. Basically, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. And you're definitely damned if you lie to your future wife and children while cruising around on a gay message board and spending time watching teenage boys masturbate on a webcam.

Remember this: no one is saved by his works or his lack of sins. We are all sinners and we are all damned, straight, gay, preachers and whores. We are saved by Grace, and we are granted Grace by God, who knows what's in our hearts.

By all means avoid sin, but don't compound your sin by pretending to be something you are not. Peace be with you.
 
Oh, and by the bye, while you are saved by Grace, I was taught that avoiding sin is a response of gratitude for Grace. And avoiding sin would, I do believe, mean avoiding sites like this where "sin" is just a mouse-click away. Just to return to your original question.
 
As others have already said, God knows full well what's in your heart; and to sin in the mind is the same as to sin in the flesh. If you think you're damned for your homosexual actions, then you're also damned for your homosexual desires.
Now this is an awesome post. Said it much better than I.

Surfboy, listen to what's being said here. Bottom line, find what's in your heart. Sit down and have a nice long talk with yourself and find out what's going to make YOU happy, not what makes everyone else happy.

And that's all that should matter. And I'm done adding my $.02 to this, I'll shut up now. Just for crying out loud, THINK about what you're doing. Don't do it just because you think you have to.
 
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