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I got a new hip

I know your money is tight - all things considered, it's a great deal.
Doesn't make the payback any easier.

Talk to them about a payment plan.
 
Kulindahr said:
The numbers are in, and . . . . wow.

Total for all services related to the hip replacement: just over $38.5k

my share: $480.71
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I have no idea what my surgery cost. We don't see 'numbers'. We only see what OHIP doesn't pay for. Here in Ontario, the only thing I had to pay for was the ambulance call, and that was $45.

Still, from $38k plus to $480 and change is quite the bargain.
 
gsdx said:
I have no idea what my surgery cost. We don't see 'numbers'. We only see what OHIP doesn't pay for. Here in Ontario, the only thing I had to pay for was the ambulance call, and that was $45.

Still, from $38k plus to $480 and change is quite the bargain.
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Were you expected to rent crutches or pay out of pocket for drugs or ambulance if I might ask?
 
gsdx said:
I have no idea what my surgery cost. We don't see 'numbers'. We only see what OHIP doesn't pay for. Here in Ontario, the only thing I had to pay for was the ambulance call, and that was $45.

Still, from $38k plus to $480 and change is quite the bargain.
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It's a "bargain" that's going to pinch hard.
 
From the result after the word I did today, I judge that I'm capable of biking out via the beach to do some work on my project, but not hauling supplies, so I'll need a helper. Or I could bike out hauling supplies, and not be capable of returning.
 
Kulindahr said:
In the future....

It may qualify as a garden, because next year strawberries will go in among the trees, and the year after that, huckleberries. And the wild peas are looking good around the edges!
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My garden is 120 ft long and divided into 3
The middle section under the fruit trees is left fairly wild with long grass, bulbs and wild flowers
The local wildlife love it!
 
bankside said:
Were you expected to rent crutches or pay out of pocket for drugs or ambulance if I might ask?
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No. A group called 'Home Care' supplied me with a walker and a commode which fit over my toilet. The commode had arms and allowed me to sit down and stand up much easier. Home Care paid the rent on each for one month. At the end of the rental, I sent the walker back. (My landlord had one that he let me use) but kept the commode for another month since I wasn't flexible enough to sit on the toilet. The extra month's rental cost me $11.

My disability pension pays for prescription drugs and OHIP (Ontario's provincial health insurance plan) paid for everything except the ambulance ride. Even the physiotherapy was paid. So, my total cost for broken hip surgery and 1 week in hospital came to $56.

Kulindahr said:
It's a "bargain" that's going to pinch hard.
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It's a pinch, but, compared to having to pay back $38 k...

I had a friend in Pennsylvania who came out of the hospital owing over $200,000. I can't even imagine how he paid that off, or how the hospital would expect anyone except Donald Trump to be able to pay it off.
 
I do find it incredible that people have to pay so much for medical treatment in the States.

Our health system costs an absolute fortune in taxes here in France but for the individual, even without private insurance such as myself, the actual direct cost out of my pocket is negligible.

A heart attack, nor cancer treatment would not put me on the streets as a pauper.
 
gsdx said:
No. A group called 'Home Care' supplied me with a walker and a commode which fit over my toilet. The commode had arms and allowed me to sit down and stand up much easier. Home Care paid the rent on each for one month.
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In the UK The International Red Cross supply home mobility aids on a short term when you come out of hospital :)
 
dpnice said:
I do find it incredible that people have to pay so much for medical treatment in the States.

Our health system costs an absolute fortune in taxes here in France but for the individual, even without private insurance such as myself, the actual direct cost out of my pocket is negligible.
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Ditto in the UK
And yet when Obama tries to set up something similar he gets shot down.
 
LeicsDom said:
In the UK The International Red Cross supply home mobility aids on a short term when you come out of hospital :)
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That would be a good idea here. The BPOE (Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks) used to loan out crutches, walkers, wheelchairs, and more, but after some stupid lawsuit they stopped. The only place I could find that provided crutches was the local Senior Center, and they can do it because they're protected by some obscure federal regulation clause.
 
LeicsDom said:
Ditto in the UK
And yet when Obama tries to set up something similar he gets shot down.
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A truly ironic angle on that is that right-wingers scream "Socialism!" at the idea of the government providing something like that, and prattle on about the Founding Fathers, ignoring all the while that those same Founding Fathers practiced "socialism" when they subsidized the cost -- or paid outright -- of then-current military arms for citizens in moves to provide for having a well-regulated militia.
 
Kulindahr said:
That would be a good idea here. The BPOE (Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks) used to loan out crutches, walkers, wheelchairs, and more, but after some stupid lawsuit they stopped. The only place I could find that provided crutches was the local Senior Center, and they can do it because they're protected by some obscure federal regulation clause.
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I was issued with crutches by the hospital when I was discharged
I returned them on my next appointment to the clinic
 
LeicsDom said:
Ditto in the UK
And yet when Obama tries to set up something similar he gets shot down.
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But one does have to remember that it is financed by our taxes and costs an absolute fortune and is therefore unbelievably out of budget.
 
It costs much less of a fortune than user-pay, administered by a morass of ineffective competing marketing rackets.
 
Kulindahr said:
I got crutches a few weeks before the surgery, the hip pain was so bad. I think I'll be done with them by the end of the week.
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I agree. Basically they are a very short term confidence booster to help you adjust to having a balanced gait again :)
 
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