Like that couldn't happen in America, like anywhere else: the difference is that, in the USA, your beheading or selling into slavery would be turned into a movie.
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Is America the hope of the world?
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Like that couldn't happen in America, like anywhere else: the difference is that, in the USA, your beheading or selling into slavery would be turned into a movie.
What an outrageous lie.
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peeonme
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Mon unique espérance est dans mon désespoir
My hope is not in despair, but in applying myself. I am amazed at how some wallow in self pity.
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I second that.
Indeed, like all those Americans whining about Trump, like before about Obama, about Bush Jr., like whining about how the rest of the world seems set against them...
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peeonme
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Indeed, like all those Americans whining about Trump, like before about Obama, about Bush Jr., like whining about how the rest of the world seems set against them...
Once a person is elected they are my President. When they are right, they are right. When they are wrong, they are wrong.
I am not against them because they didn't get my vote. Nor do I fill compelled to side with them because I voted for them.
As for the opinion that the rest of the world has about my country, I don't give a rats ass. Worry about your country.
Thad1527
Uncharted
There's no excuse for violence or injustice. And I will join those standing against meanness and bullying.
Perhaps a reason we get outraged by this (and we should!) is because it is relatively unusual. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if such oppression was viewed as being right.
Perhaps a reason we get outraged by this (and we should!) is because it is relatively unusual. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if such oppression was viewed as being right.
You are either the exception, or a liar: either way, irrelevant to my point about the other million whining "fellow citizens"... at any rate, you seem to belong to the last kind: the whiners about outsider whiners, a very Anglo species
I have no country, I only have a passport
and I couldn't care less about countries, I'd rather care about what they say they care, but actually they do not give a rat's ass.Meh. We could be better.
This country still hasn't atoned for the atrocities committed upon Red, Black, Yellow & Brown people.
The populous is either uneducated or miseducated; hence our current leader.
Me & my children can still be murdered by a scared cop; who will likely get off.
We honor traitors and slave owners.
Corporations owns our politicians.
Our infrastructure is falling apart.
Our health care is an industry; you might get the care you need but you'll be in life crushing debt.
We have heavily armed Nazi's & White Nationalist.
Yeah...
This country still hasn't atoned for the atrocities committed upon Red, Black, Yellow & Brown people.
The populous is either uneducated or miseducated; hence our current leader.
Me & my children can still be murdered by a scared cop; who will likely get off.
We honor traitors and slave owners.
Corporations owns our politicians.
Our infrastructure is falling apart.
Our health care is an industry; you might get the care you need but you'll be in life crushing debt.
We have heavily armed Nazi's & White Nationalist.
Yeah...
You are either the exception, or a liar: either way, irrelevant to my point about the other million whining "fellow citizens"... at any rate, you seem to belong to the last kind: the whiners about outsider whiners, a very Anglo species
What kind of whiner are you?
oakpope
Look, listen and rejoice
I loved my trip to New York last June. Only 5 days mind you. I'll always remember, I believe, the smile a young begging man near Time Square gave me when I gave him $10. It was such a beautiful smile.
There are 321 million American people. To describe them in few words is futile.
From Europe, every thing seems larger than life in America. But it's a cliché. There is still some American Dream going on, but statistics tell us that it has never been more difficult for a Black young man without rich family to become rich. The insane amount of money needed to pay for upper school and health care is frightening from the outside.
American people are very attached to the notion of freedom, but it's frequently delusional. Try and have a friendly conversation with a female co worker in a bureau with the door shut...
The US Universities are among the very best in the world. But who goes there ? The new tax bill would impose some new tax on students that would make a 3 years studying trip a goal for only the wealthiest of outsider.
The best medicine research in the world ? Statistically, certainly. But who profit from that research ? The woman who is bankrupt after a cancer treatment ?
You have such an intense usage of energy. AC in all houses ? During winter as well as summer ? Such waste. American cars ? They don't sell the same outside the US, they're humongous.
The food portion on an average American plate is at least twice as much as in France. And obesity is becoming such a problem, wonder why ? And the average food given to children in school, is a shame for such a great country which have so many possibility for quality produces. The condition of raising farm animals and produce are so dependent on antibiotic, American people have to refrigerate all, including the eggs ! Another huge waste of energy.
Your infrastructure is becoming a shame because no one wants to pay the bill for it, the "if I don't use it, why should I pay for it" is so widespread and doing so much damage to your society.
American amazing movie "industry" (in France movies are classified as art, not as something that needs to make money) is now producing remakes of remakes of remakes, apart from wondrous independent films which struggle to have some funds.
America used to make France people dream. The vastness, the spirit of conquering, the positivism, the friendliness of American was very respected. It has changed for the worst now. Maybe because we are more informed nowadays. Many French people continue to go to the US, but it's mainly now the very well educated that are sure to make a lot of money, and are very eager to return to France once they're rich enough. It used to be the more adventurous, with no money in the pocket who dreamed big and large. That is dying now.
There are 321 million American people. To describe them in few words is futile.
From Europe, every thing seems larger than life in America. But it's a cliché. There is still some American Dream going on, but statistics tell us that it has never been more difficult for a Black young man without rich family to become rich. The insane amount of money needed to pay for upper school and health care is frightening from the outside.
American people are very attached to the notion of freedom, but it's frequently delusional. Try and have a friendly conversation with a female co worker in a bureau with the door shut...
The US Universities are among the very best in the world. But who goes there ? The new tax bill would impose some new tax on students that would make a 3 years studying trip a goal for only the wealthiest of outsider.
The best medicine research in the world ? Statistically, certainly. But who profit from that research ? The woman who is bankrupt after a cancer treatment ?
You have such an intense usage of energy. AC in all houses ? During winter as well as summer ? Such waste. American cars ? They don't sell the same outside the US, they're humongous.
The food portion on an average American plate is at least twice as much as in France. And obesity is becoming such a problem, wonder why ? And the average food given to children in school, is a shame for such a great country which have so many possibility for quality produces. The condition of raising farm animals and produce are so dependent on antibiotic, American people have to refrigerate all, including the eggs ! Another huge waste of energy.
Your infrastructure is becoming a shame because no one wants to pay the bill for it, the "if I don't use it, why should I pay for it" is so widespread and doing so much damage to your society.
American amazing movie "industry" (in France movies are classified as art, not as something that needs to make money) is now producing remakes of remakes of remakes, apart from wondrous independent films which struggle to have some funds.
America used to make France people dream. The vastness, the spirit of conquering, the positivism, the friendliness of American was very respected. It has changed for the worst now. Maybe because we are more informed nowadays. Many French people continue to go to the US, but it's mainly now the very well educated that are sure to make a lot of money, and are very eager to return to France once they're rich enough. It used to be the more adventurous, with no money in the pocket who dreamed big and large. That is dying now.
fabulouslyghetto
Kween of Hot Topics
Boldened because people forget about these things in convos like this which mostly seem to come from a white male perspective.
Something like that happens in every country, in the USA it is mostly about "black people vs. white people": there is an apparent majority, in any case, majority or not, the ruling one, who ignore such issues, and when they are reminded about them the get frightened or, if not, quite cynically, they talk of revanchism, hate and whining of the losers... and then there is the "silent (majority perhaps)", who are simply driven by whatever party has the higher hand at a given moment.
fabulouslyghetto
Kween of Hot Topics
Yeah and for some inexplicable reason white people are and always have been winning, they control politics, entertainment, employment, education and everything else from apple to zoo and we're supposed to believe the only reason black people haven't been able to catch up is because we're culturally inferior and lazy.
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eastofeden
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If you are a right wing member of the christoban...or a nazi...or a racist...or a homophobe..or a sexist...and you want the USA to bring about the "end times" so you can say you are right....then the USA is full of hope.
oakpope
Look, listen and rejoice
^^I'm still convince Africa is the only future of France.
Those African mechanics who work in Sénégal repairing old cars are a wonder to behold. They're so smart, resourceful and hard at work.
I don't know where the "lazy moronic black" moniker comes from. It's evidently stupid (apart from racist obviously).
There are as many genius and stupid people in Africa than in America or Europe or Asia, it's the environment in which the quality can be express that differ.
Those African mechanics who work in Sénégal repairing old cars are a wonder to behold. They're so smart, resourceful and hard at work.
I don't know where the "lazy moronic black" moniker comes from. It's evidently stupid (apart from racist obviously).
There are as many genius and stupid people in Africa than in America or Europe or Asia, it's the environment in which the quality can be express that differ.
You can be sure if the black start winning the white at their own game, the whites will blow the board and change the game: that is what has been happening with global economy, when the USA and Europe, the Western world in general, have started to grow dependant instead of being depended on. That's what always has been like in politics.
"Genius" is not the question: first, because you do not need to be a "genius" to succeed in life, but also because genius is more common and "cheaper" than it is commonly said. Most importantly, because what counts is precisely what ruling class and values makeof all that genius. The "geniuses" and very skilled and educated people of Africa, who wanted to "become doctors to save their people", end up selling trash in BCN, being exploited in Paris or Manhattan, or running for their lives elsewhere.