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Is it ageism

Didn't they care about the mess they leave behind? Or they just cared about being conscious of BEING a mess?
I think that they figured that those left behind would be stonger in dealing with it than they were.

I wish I could have told them before he hung himself that he was so wrong.

Watching the survivors pain for over 40 years and doing whatever we could to alleviate the agony of the son ....so sad.

But at the same time, I understand that his father's mental anguish was so far beyond what anyone could do to alleviate it.

This is what we live with every day for the rest of our lives.
 
You don't remember Vera Donovan throwing herself down the stairs to end it all ?
Nope.
I got perfectly well the juicier yellow intent of the movie.

There was one reason for her to do that: who would ever care?

Names, names, names, who cares about names... all Anglos are all about names... and no substance.

Vera Donovan McO'Klinckondale Fucking Von Trumpfen Beaverhausen Pozniatowvskiewzsky Banderas.
 
I also wish I could have helped my cousin...a very successful bank executive...before he shot himself in the mouth in his office 30 years ago.

I loved him...he taught me so many cool things.

But I can't...and it was hos choice.
 
I also wish I could have helped my cousin...a very successful bank executive...before he shot himself in the mouth in his office 30 years ago.

I loved him...he taught me so many cool things.

But I can't...and it was hos choice.
I doubt the method was his inborn choice.

Had he been born and raised in Europe with the same everything else... who knows.
 
Weird though.... guns in Canada aren't a big thing necessarily.
 
I don't remember.

My cousin was 35 years old and splattered his brains out in his office.

I don't remember the size of gun he used to do it.

It had nothing to do with age.

Or decrepitude.

I am still in the dark about what drove him to do it.
 
After reading this thread I want to kill myself
 
You mean kill the membership whose death you have announced '-nth' times over the years?
 
just fucking stop.

otherwise you really just some off looking like an utter asshole.
 
I don't remember.

My cousin was 35 years old and splattered his brains out in his office.

I don't remember the size of gun he used to do it.

It had nothing to do with age.

Or decrepitude.

I am still in the dark about what drove him to do it.
Ever heard of depression, mental impairment..?

People do not kill themselves for a "logical or sentimental reason", just because they are unhappy with their lives or the world around them: it's not always because they are sad about a loss, or because their parents won't let them be gay or become an actor. In the worst cases it may even be because of it all.
 
just. stop.

either engage in a intellectually and emotionally balanced discussion on this subject or just. stop.

I have already invested enough emotional energy into this over a good part of my life.

Go find a hoe and get the venom fucked out of you.
 
If you are so upset why read this thread.

Have you ever considered that the reason why some people end up killing themselves might just be because "normal" people can not bear feeling distressed by other people's distress?
Because "professionals" can not be so unless their "patients" do most of the job themselves? Because nobody will actually want to help others unless they can feel superior or detached from that distress they fear to actually face and feel too close to themselves?
 
I don't know why folks suicide. I've had some bad times but offing myself was never a thought. I haven't been to a church in eons (collection plate?)(just charge at the door) but I have read most of the bible eons ago and my impression is suicide is a sin and you're going straight to Hell. But anyway.... whatever.

I've have a couple of friends suddenly off themselves. It's like everything is normal and they get up the next day and kill themselves instead of taking a shower and shaving and getting on with life. No clues about why. You have a friend that seemed happy and then suddenly you go to a funeral.

It's a selfish thing to suddenly pull the plug and never giving anyone a chance to help.
Then again, it might be a selfish thing that folks want to know "why".
 
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