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marco rubio and Ted Cruz white hispanics

Orlandude said:
Consider some facts, rather than right wing talking points....

More than 9% of eligible voters nationwide are Latino. The majority support for Democratic candidates continues a pattern among Hispanic voters. In a December 2011, 67% of Hispanics said they were Democrats, and 20% said they were Republicans.

In the 2010 midterm elections, 60% of Hispanics voted Democratic, while 38% voted Republican. In 2008, 67% of Hispanics voted for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, while 31% of Hispanics voted for Republican presidential candidate John McCain. In 2006, 69% of Latino voters supported Democratic candidates in congressional races, while 30% supported Republican candidates.
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Add to this that, in the presidential election of 2012, a re-elected President Barack Obama received 71 percent of the vote while Mitt Romney received 27 percent of the vote nationally from Hispanics.

The trend in population shows that, over the last three presidential election cycles, Hispanics were 7 percent (2004), 9 percent (2008), and 10 percent (2012) of the size of the national vote for president of the United States. In contrast, the white vote has steadily declined in which 77 percent (2004), 74 percent (2008), and 72 percent (2012) were the size of the vote for president of the United States. I suspect, in the presidential election of 2016, that the size of national presidential vote from whites will go down to 70 percent while the size of the national presidential vote from Hispanics will go up to 12 percent.
 
This has always explained the democrat's and especially Obama's strategy of sacrificing everything else they claim to value in order to flood the country with immigrants and rush them to citizenship, while fighting attempts to require IDs to vote. Meanwhile they do everything they can to facilitate abortion of Americans.
The democrat view of democracy is that enough people don't vote for you, just abort as many of their children as possible and replace them with people reliably dependent.
 
Hillary's ancestors did not arrive on the "Mayflower"...does that make her a lesser American? Hillary is the product of an immigrant family that originated in the UK. This is Buzzfeed, for some bizarre reason trying to make something, out of nothing..
 
kallipolis said:
Hillary's ancestors did not arrive on the "Mayflower"...does that make her a lesser American? Hillary is the product of an immigrant family that originated in the UK. This is Buzzfeed, for some bizarre reason trying to make something, out of nothing..
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She lied for no reason. It just comes easy and natural to her. You don't care, but perhaps others will. Don't misunderstand me. I want her to be the democrat candidate. She will lose the independents.
 
Benvolio said:
She lied for no reason. It just comes easy and natural to her. You don't care, but perhaps others will. Don't misunderstand me. I want her to be the democrat candidate. She will lose the independents.
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Family histories have a habit of being confusing, for those of advanced age....and Hillary's grandmother is no exception..

...much ado, about nothing....
 
kallipolis said:
Family histories have a habit of being confusing, for those of advanced age....and Hillary's grandmother is no exception..

...much ado, about nothing....
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You have no basis for blaming it on her grandmother. Of course Hillary knew they were not immediately clear grants. She is a facile liar.
 
Benvolio said:
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You have no basis for blaming it on her grandmother. Of course Hillary knew they were not immediately clear grants. She is a facile liar.
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According to the captioned article Hillary's misunderstanding was the result of her grandmother's confusion.

Had Hillary benefited in some substantive manner from her misunderstanding I might appreciate your obsessive, compulsive focus on a matter that speaks volumes on your apparent need to demonise Hillary no matter how trivial the matter.

When you are offended at any man's fault, turn to yourself and study your own failings. Then you will forget your anger.
~Epictetus
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kallipolis said:
According to the captioned article Hillary's misunderstanding was the result of her grandmother's confusion.

Had Hillary benefited in some substantive manner from her misunderstanding I might appreciate your obsessive, compulsive focus on a matter that speaks volumes on your apparent need to demonise Hillary no matter how trivial the matter.
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Your defense of her lie to achieve her agenda speaks volumes about your own willingness to accept bad politicians.
 
Benvolio said:
I am not sure who or what that cartoon shows.
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The cartoon is a depiction of an Irish immigrant as an ape. Thomas Nast was notorious for his bigoted depictions of the Irish in Harper's Magazine. In case you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the most influential cartoonists in American history, creating such images as the symbols of our political parties (elephant for Republican Party, donkey for Democratic Party) and the common depiction of Santa Clause.

Anti Irish cartoons for magazines such as Harper's Weekly featured cartoons by Thomas Nast and depicted Irish immigrants as ape-like barbarians prone to lawlessness, laziness and drunkenness
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http://www.victoriana.com/history/irish-political-cartoons.html
 
palemale said:
What is the basis for this assertion, other than your anti-Catholic prejudice?
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~Coughs~ Ten bucks says that it's his brain going "Anyone that's currently considered white couldn't possibly be like Those People are" ~Coughs~ It's an example of something but damned if I can remember the name - psychology and sociology have so many terms.
 
palemale said:
The cartoon is a depiction of an Irish immigrant as an ape. Thomas Nast was notorious for his bigoted depictions of the Irish in Harper's Magazine. In case you haven't heard of him, he was perhaps the most influential cartoonists in American history, creating such images as the symbols of our political parties (elephant for Republican Party, donkey for Democratic Party) and the common depiction of Santa Clause.



http://www.victoriana.com/history/irish-political-cartoons.html
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Lincoln during has lifetime was referred to and depicted in democrat cartoons as a gorilla. GWBush was referred to as an ape. But I don't think the democrats in either case intended to suggest the person was non white, but as stupid. I am not aware that the Americans ever referred to the Irish as non white and you apparently have found no instance of those words being used.
 
Benvolio said:
Lincoln during has lifetime was referred to and depicted in democrat cartoons as a gorilla. GWBush was referred to as an ape. But I don't think the democrats in either case intended to suggest the person was non white, but as stupid. I am not aware that the Americans ever referred to the Irish as non white and you apparently have found no instance of those words being used.
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Go back and read my post #38.
 
Benvolio said:
Lincoln during has lifetime was referred to and depicted in democrat cartoons as a gorilla. GWBush was referred to as an ape. But I don't think the democrats in either case intended to suggest the person was non white, but as stupid. I am not aware that the Americans ever referred to the Irish as non white and you apparently have found no instance of those words being used.
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You do know the difference between an individual insult and an insult based on the presumed characteristics of a group, no?

Also, dude, people gave you plenty of links. Just because you prefer not to read 'em doesn't mean that they both don't exist and that everyone else is wondering how a legally blind man can find them and yet you continue to miss the damned things.
 
luckynumbah7 said:
You do know the difference between an individual insult and an insult based on the presumed characteristics of a group, no?

Also, dude, people gave you plenty of links. Just because you prefer not to read 'em doesn't mean that they both don't exist and that everyone else is wondering how a legally blind man can find them and yet you continue to miss the damned things.
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You lie. No one has given a link of Americans referring to Irish as "non white'.
 
In the 19th century, the Irish were seen as a “race” apart from other European groups. They were stereotyped for their criminality, lack of education, and poor family values, and they were often portrayed as apes in cartoons of the time and referred to as “[n*****s] turned inside out.”

Immigration, Intermarriage, and the Challenges of Measuring Racial/Ethnic Identities (American Journal of Public Health; Mary C. Waters, PhD; November 2000)
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Commonwealth of Virginia Certificate of Marriage; 1884

How the Irish Become White (Teacher education candidates from the University of Texas at Austin; 2005)

How the Irish Became White (Art MacDonald, PhD; Minister and Director of Social Advocacy at Allegheny Unitarian Universalist Church)
 
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