NSA data mining

[Kulindahr]

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That's like two-thirds of a million address books a day!

 

[palbert]

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In a major policy reversal, the Justice Department will disclose "eavesdropping" details to a criminal defendant,

WASHINGTON — Five years after Congress authorized a sweeping warrantless surveillance program, the Justice Department is setting up a potential Supreme Court test of whether it is constitutional by notifying a criminal defendant — for the first time — that evidence against him derived from the eavesdropping, according to officials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/17/u...door-for-challenge-to-secret-wiretaps.html?hp

This comes after the Solicitor General represented to SCOTUS that such would be the case, but numerous District Attorneys were of the contrary practice.

 

[kallipolis]

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When a department director, and his deputy "retire" early there is good reason to believe that their tenure has become embarrassing. The photograph of Keith Alexander is equally embarrassing:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/16/nsa-director-keith-alexander-depart

I quote:

Army general Keith Alexander's eight-year tenure was rocked this year by revelations contained in documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about the agency's widespread scooping up of telephone, email and social media data.

 

[kallipolis]

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Here's an educational video specially made for those of us who are not "geeks" explaining the ins, and outs of Edward Snowden's contributions to the public debate on surveillance by government, in this specific case the NSAs activities:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/oct/21/nsa-files-how-they-affect-you-video-animation

 

[Kulindahr]

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Here's an educational video specially made for those of us who are not "geeks" explaining the ins, and outs of Edward Snowden's contributions to the public debate on surveillance by government, in this specific case the NSAs activities:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/oct/21/nsa-files-how-they-affect-you-video-animation

I like it.

 

[kallipolis]

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Chancellor Angela Merkel didn't give a damn when German citizens were being bugged by the NSA.

Angela went ballistic when she found out that her own mobile phone was being bugged by the NSA.

Did Angela telephone Barack to discuss this explosive matter using her own mobile phone?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...d-as-eu-leaders-meet-in-brussels-8901065.html

I quote:

Chancellor Merkel has already complained about the alleged intrusion in a phone call to President Barack Obama, and the country's Defence Minister, Thomas de Maiziere, has said US-German relations "can't simply return to business as usual."

 

[kallipolis]

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Barack reassures Angela that her mobile phone is not being tapped....I suspect the Germans are not entirely persuaded.:


http://www.theguardian.com/world/vi...l-phone-not-monitored-obama-white-house-video

 

[palbert]

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Are not and will not be monitored. No were not.

Ms. Merkel herself angrily demanded assurances from President Obama that her cellphone was not the target of an American intelligence tap as soon as suspicions surfaced on Wednesday. Washington hastily pledged that her calls were not being monitored and would not be in future but conspicuously said nothing about the past.

And the targeting of French diplomatic interests isn't proving too popular either.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/25/world/europe/anger-growing-over-united-states-surveillance.html?hp

 

[kallipolis]

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^But of course they are not United States citizens...therefore no laws were broken in the United States...where's our resident NSA public relations plant...is he on leave of absence?

 

[T-Rexx]

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Word is out this morning that we spied on Italy, too.

http://www.thelocal.it/20131024/britain-and-us-also-spied-on-italy-report

It seems that there is no person on earth who isn't being monitored by the NSA.

 

[palbert]

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"Merkel, be not too upset, you're not alone" department:

NSA monitored calls of 35 world leaders after US official handed over contacts [<Link]

The confidential memo [Ed. made public by E. Snowden] reveals that the NSA encourages senior officials in its "customer" departments, such as the White House, State and the Pentagon, to share their "Rolodexes" so the agency can add the phone numbers of leading foreign politicians to their surveillance systems.

Naturally,

International anger over US government surveillance has combined with a backlash against its current Middle East policy to leave President Obama increasingly isolated from many of his key foreign allies, according to diplomats in Washington.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/24/obama-isolated-anger-builds-us-allies

I suppose this will just get worse.

 

[kallipolis]

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^Yet, another statement will be released by a White House spokes person, stating that the United States values its Allies.....etc...........and, the NSA will continue on its merry way....to do what it wants, when it wants.

 

[EastMed]

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The European Parliament has a crucial role to play in resolving this appalling situation.
It cannot be solved by reaching 'a gentleman's agreement' by individual European states with the US, in my view.

Guy Verhoftstadt:

Guaranteeing national security is no easy matter and often pits one right against another. There will always be those who want more security or more privacy. What matters is knowing what is being done to protect our freedom so we can judge for ourselves and hold our politicians to account for the balance they strike. Without accountability, the state becomes all-powerful and we slip from democracy to dictatorship. The US (and possibly other countries participating in their programme or operating similar schemes) have been put in the spotlight and now have a duty to explain themselves to those they represent and serve.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/25/nsa-scandal-puts-europe-to-test

 

[Kulindahr]

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Spying for Fun and Profit

v.

How to Make Friends and Influence People​

 

[EastMed]

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An excellent article on our ambivalence to mass surveillance

Perhaps, to update Walter Benjamin, mankind's self-alienation has reached such a degree that we can experience our own wiretapping as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2013/10/nsa-and-eu

 

[kallipolis]

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^ Just may because most advanced countries spy on one another with the Americans winning the gold medal for spying on their Allies, as well as on their enemies, and potential enemies.

 

[palbert]

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Good article EastMed. Thank you.

One would have thought the following circumstances would have clued Obama in:

Fresh from the discovery that Chinese hackers had broken into the computer systems used by his 2008 campaign, he waged a bureaucratic war to hold on to his BlackBerry. In the end, he won a partial victory when he was issued a National Security Agency-approved, heavily encrypted model, with his communications limited to a small number of advisers and old friends. (He may lose it, some officials say, if the Chinese-owned computer maker Lenovo buys the BlackBerry brand from its hemorrhaging Canadian manufacturer.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/26/w...ar-everyone-does-it-just-wont-do.html?hp&_r=0

 

[EastMed]

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Good article EastMed. Thank you.

One would have thought the following circumstances would have clued Obama in:



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/26/w...ar-everyone-does-it-just-wont-do.html?hp&_r=0

Thank you. The article provides much food for thought. With respect to Mr Obama, I fear his ability to deal with this is circumscribed by a dysfunctional politics and a clear lack of political accountability.
Just a couple of weeks ago, a 'suicide caucus' in Congress tried to destroy the country.
It appears Germany and Brazil may take this issue to the UN.

 

[T-Rexx]

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^ Just may because most advanced countries spy on one another with the Americans winning the gold medal for spying on their Allies, as well as on their enemies, and potential enemies.

...and their citizens.

 

[palbert]

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In a major policy reversal, the Justice Department will disclose "eavesdropping" details to a criminal defendant,



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/17/u...door-for-challenge-to-secret-wiretaps.html?hp

This comes after the Solicitor General represented to SCOTUS that such would be the case, but numerous District Attorneys were of the contrary practice.

They, in fact, did it.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department for the first time has notified a criminal defendant that evidence being used against him came from a warrantless wiretap, a move that is expected to set up a Supreme Court test of whether such eavesdropping is constitutional.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/27/u...warrantless-wiretaps-as-evidence.html?hp&_r=0

For background on why this is happening: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/us/double-secret-surveillance.html

Gradually the lights grow brighter. (I have yet to see a Snowden tale of nonsense.)