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Rep. Foley - G.O.P. Leaders Knew in Late 2005 Of E-mails With Teenage Boy

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The New York Times

October 1, 2006

G.O.P. Leaders Knew in Late ’05 of E-Mail


By CARL HULSE and RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

WASHINGTON, Sept. 30 — Top House Republicans knew for months about e-mail traffic between Representative Mark Foley and a former teenage page, but kept the matter secret and allowed Mr. Foley to remain head of a Congressional caucus on children’s issues, Republican lawmakers said Saturday.

The exchanges began with what Republicans now describe as an “overfriendly” e-mail message from Mr. Foley to the unidentified teenager.

But news reports about the exchanges led to the disclosure of e-mail correspondence with other former pages in which the discussions became more and more sexually explicit. Shortly after he was confronted by ABC News on Friday about the subject, Mr. Foley, who represented a south Florida district, resigned from the House.

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he revelations set off a political upheaval, with Democrats and some Republicans alike calling for a full investigation of Mr. Foley’s conduct and whether House leaders did enough to look into it. Members of the Republican leadership sought Saturday to detail how they had handled the case in an effort to defuse the issue, even as it was emerging as an issue in Congressional races.

Among those who earlier this year became aware of the fall 2005 communications between Mr. Foley and the 16-year-old page, who worked for Representative Rodney Alexander, Republican of Louisiana, were Representative John A. Boehner, the majority leader, and Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of New York, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. Mr. Reynolds said in a statement Saturday that he had also personally raised the issue with Speaker J. Dennis Hastert.

“Despite the fact that I had not seen the e-mails in question, and Mr. Alexander told me that the parents didn’t want the matter pursued, I told the speaker of the conversation Mr. Alexander had with me,” Mr. Reynolds said.

In a chronology of the incident released later Saturday, the speaker’s office said Mr. Hastert did not recall any such discussion and had no previous knowledge of the matter. “While the speaker does not explicitly recall this conversation, he has no reason to dispute Congressman Reynolds recollection that he reported to him on the problem and its resolution,” the statement said.

The statement, issued after senior aides, the House clerk and legal advisers huddled for much of Saturday in the Capitol, said senior staff members in the speaker’s office first learned of the e-mail messages from Mr. Alexander’s office in the fall of 2005 and took steps to investigate.

Aides to the speaker and other Congressional Republican leaders said that the messages brought to their attention, though described as “overfriendly,” were much less explicit than the others that came to light after ABC News first disclosed the e-mail correspondence with Mr. Alexander’s page.

In those messages, sent after Hurricane Katrina, Mr. Foley asked about the well-being of the boy, a Monroe, La., resident, . He wrote: “How are you weathering the hurricane. . .are you safe. . .send me a pic of you as well.” The page sent the note to a former colleague, describing it as “sick.”

In another message Mr. Foley wrote, “What do you want for your birthday coming up. . .what stuff do you like to do.”

The exchanges that came to light after the new reports first appeared were far more graphic. When he was confronted about them on Friday with more graphic e-mail, Mr. Foley resigned. Republican leaders said they had not known about the other e-mail correspondence.

“No one in the speaker’s office was made aware of the sexually explicit text messages which press reports suggest had been directed to another individual until they were revealed in the press and on the Internet this week,” the statement from Mr. Hastert’s office said.

Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers said Saturday that Congress and the public deserved a full report on Mr. Foley’s dealings with the pages, who are high school students who serve as runners and perform other duties. They said there should also be an inquiry into the leadership’s knowledge of his activities and its response.

“Anyone who was involved in the chain of information should come forward and tell when they were told, what they were told and what they did with the information when they got it,” said Representative Peter T. King, Republican of New York. Mr. King called it a “dark day” for Congress and said, “We need a full investigation.”

Representative Christopher Shays, Republican of Connecticut, said any leader who had been aware of Mr. Foley’s behavior and failed to take action should step down. “If they knew or should have known the extent of this problem, they should not serve in leadership,” Mr. Shays said.

On Saturday night, the House Republican leadership issued a joint statement that characterized the communications between Mr. Foley and the former House pages as “unacceptable and abhorrent.”

“It is an obscene breach of trust,” the statement said. “His immediate resignation must now be followed by the full weight of the criminal justice system.”

The statement, from Mr. Hastert, Mr. Boehner and the majority whip, Roy Blunt, asked the board that oversees pages “to undertake a full review of the incident and propose additional safeguard measures.”

The leaders also said they had asked for specific rules governing the communications and contacts between pages and lawmakers and called for creation of a toll-free number for pages and their parents to report concerns. They also Besides the leaders, other lawmakers and Congressional officers who served on the board that oversaw the page program were aware of e-mail messages, though the Democratic lawmaker who serves on the board, Representative Dale E. Kildee of Michigan, said Saturday that he had never been informed.

According to lawmakers and the speaker’s office, the page who received the e-mail forwarded the one in which Mr. Foley, 52, asked for his picture, to a colleague in Mr. Alexander’s office, repeatedly calling it “sick” and saying it “freaked me out.”

Mr. Alexander called the boy’s parents, who, Republican leaders said Saturday, told him they did not want to pursue the matter but wanted Mr. Foley to stop.

Mr. Alexander’s office also contacted staff members in Mr. Hastert’s office for guidance on what to do and. According to the speaker’s account, his aides put Mr. Alexander’s staff in contact with the clerk of the House, who oversees the page program. The clerk, who at the time was Jeff Trandahl, referred the matter to Representative John Shimkus, the Illinois Republican who is the chairman of the House Page Board, in late 2005, a spokesman for Mr. Shimkus said.

Mr. Trandahl and Mr. Shimkus confronted Mr. Foley, who insisted he was simply acting as a mentor to the former page, officials said. He assured them nothing inappropriate had occurred.

“They asked Foley about the email,” the speaker’s statement said. “Congressman Shimkus and the clerk made it clear that to avoid even the appearance of impropriety and at the request of the parents, Congressman Foley was to immediately cease any communication with the young man.”

On Saturday, Mr. Shimkus’ spokesman, Steve Tomaszewski, said, “Obviously Foley lied about the other e-mails.” said Saturday.

Mr. Tomaszewski said Mr. Shimkus would not comment on any other conversations he had with House leaders about the matter because it was referred to the ethics committee by a vote of House Friday. A spokesman for Mr. Alexander did not respond to telephone and e-mail messages.

Kevin Madden, a spokesman for Mr. Boehner, said Saturday that Mr. Boehner had a “brief, nonspecific” conversation about the subject with Mr. Alexander in the spring but that he could not recall with certainty whether he had discussed it with other leaders.

Democrats moved quickly to criticize Mr. Reynolds, who at the same time he oversees House campaigns nationally is facing the potential of a serious challenge from Jack Davis, a wealthy businessman who has vowed to spend at least $2 million of his own money in the contest. “Tom Reynolds had a moral obligation to protect our children,” said Curtis Ellis, a spokesman for Mr. Davis.

Carl Forti, a spokesman for Mr. Reynolds, said the congressman became aware of contact between Mr. Foley and the young page this past spring, when Mr. Alexander brought it to his attention. Mr. Forti said that Mr. Alexander had told Mr. Reynolds of an e-mail exchange between Mr. Foley and the page, but that he did not show Mr. Reynolds the e-mail messages and their contents.

In another example of the potential political consequences of the Foley case, the opponent of Representative Deborah Pryce of Ohio, the fourth-ranking House Republican, called on Ms. Pryce to return $5,000 in aid she received from Mr. Foley. Mr. Foley, who served on the powerful Ways and Means Committee, also gave at least $100,000 to the party campaign committee in July.

Strategists for both parties said it was too early to tell what impact the furor might have on Congressional elections now five weeks away but said at a minimum it could lower the already dismal public view of incumbents and discourage conservative voters.

It directly affected the race for the seat of Mr. Foley — the third Republican to resign this year under a cloud. Tim Mahoney, the Democrat who had been running an uphill and barely watched race against Mr. Foley, used the new attention to his campaign on Saturday to accuse the Republican leadership of covering up for him.

“It’s now clear from all the reports coming in from across the country that the Republican leadership team has been well aware of this problem with the pages for well over a year,” Mr. Mahoney said at a campaign stop at Palm Beach International Airport. “It looks to me that it was more important to hold onto a seat and to hold onto power than to take care of our children.”

At the Justice Department, an official said that there was no investigation under way but that the agency had “real interest” in examining the circumstances to see if any crimes were committed.

Several of Mr. Foley’s former colleagues demanded a criminal inquiry.

Representative Robert E. Cramer, an Alabama Democrat who was co-chairman with Mr. Foley of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, condemned Mr. Foley’s actions as “shocking and disturbing.”

“Anyone, including Foley, involved in this type of behavior should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” he said.

Kate Zernike contributed reporting from New York, David Johnston from Washington and Abbie Goodnough from West Palm Beach, Fla.

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The first story I read of this, seem to miss the whole point about it being a male page :p
 
I despise people who prey on children and that goes double for the hypocrites.
 
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The behaviour of the G.O.P. leaders in this matter is Appalling. Once they became aware of those e-mails, they should have moved on Foley immediately. Instead they let almost another year go by while this clown is continuing his antics.

The press should drag the G.O.P. leadership through the mills with this story. This is no ordinary case of lousy politics - this is a social and moral issue here and the public needs to have it stuffed in their faces if need be to get them to react.

It will be interesting to see what the voter turn out will be in November after over 5 yrs. of this inept administration and the leadership within it.

:grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

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The behaviour of the G.O.P. leaders in this matter is Appalling. Once they became aware of those e-mails, they should have moved on Foley immediately. Instead they let almost another year go by while this clown is continuing his antics.

The press should drag the G.O.P. leadership through the mills with this story. This is no ordinary case of lousy politics - this is a social and moral issue here and the public needs to have it stuffed in their faces if need be to get them to react.

It will be interesting to see what the voter turn out will be in November after over 5 yrs. of this inept administration and the leadership within it.

:grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

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It isn't unusual. The Democrats had their own scandal with Gerry Studds back in the 1980's. They not only failed to get rid of him, they embraced him. This in spite of the fact that he was playing bouncy-bouncy with a 17 year old male intern. So the hypocracy abounds on both sides of the aisle. Both parties are only interested in their own agendas, not what is good for the country.

http://www.answers.com/topic/gerry-studds
 
I think it was on ABC News, but I'm not sure because I flip channels, so much. They had a page that said he was warned about Foley in 2001. He said that they were told to be careful around Foley.
 
As I watch this scandal unfold I have heard some republicans defend Foley by raising some previous democratic scandal. It is disgusting that anyone would defend pedophilia in any way. That someone in the past has committed a crime in no way justifies that crime being committed in the future. I would be suspect of anyone who tries to defend a pedophile.
 
It's obvious what is going on in this chat and if the kid was so grossed out why didn't he end the chat? Or are there several teens involved here?
This is a different page than the one who responded with the multiple "sick" comment. I believe this happened a few years ago and he wants to remain anonymous.
 
this studds guy sounds like a pig, and i'm gonna sound like a broken record but democrats don't go around moralizing...republicans, that's all they do....foley belongs to the party of family values, god and heterosexuality...therefore, he's a hypocrite as well as a pervert and deserves to burn in hell where he belongs...you a big homo perv like foley who likes 16 yr old boys? well, maybe you belong in nambla and not the party of God.
 
this studds guy sounds like a pig, and i'm gonna sound like a broken record but democrats don't go around moralizing...republicans, that's all they do....foley belongs to the party of family values, god and heterosexuality...therefore, he's a hypocrite as well as a pervert and deserves to burn in hell where he belongs...you a big homo perv like foley who likes 16 yr old boys? well, maybe you belong in nambla and not the party of God.

Excellent way to sum it up, and it's interesting that our two right-leaning 'friends' (who will remain unnamed, of course) haven't bothered to join us on this particular thread...

Night, all! :wave:
 
Defending a GOP pedophile.

Wow.

As if we didn't see that coming from this one.

No one defended a pedophile, sir. I pointed out it wasn't the first time it happened. You have a vivid imagination. But of course, we saw that coming. :rolleyes:
 
I too have heard republicans bring up past democratic sins of a similar nature but the difference here is that Foley served on the House Caucus for missing and exploited children.

Upon hearing about Foley's e-mail exchanges wouldn't the responsible thing to do be to at least remove him from that job? Maybe he could still be re-elected and maybe he broke no laws......fine, but still he should not have that particular job.

I wonder if the leadership left him there because that was easier than explaining why he needed to be removed. If so that is the real crime here.

And why Foley would ever accept such a position is quite beyond me. Does anybody in that stinkin town have any sense of shame at all?

Also the kid was 16.....Foley has his problems but he's not a pedophile.
 
On Americanblog.com, there was this point concerning how the request of Dennis Hastert was worded:

Hastert's letter is written in such a way as to exempt Hastert and the GOP leadership from the Justice Dept. investigation he's requesting. Instead, the investigation is intended to focus on outside parties - outside of Congress - be they non-profit groups like CREW, journalists, bloggers, and even potential victims and their relatives who knew of the communications but didn't contact the authorities. I.e., Hastert wants Justice to investigate the very people who broke the story and thus got the GOP in trouble.


I hope the main media picks up on this if it is true.
 
7.5", jerks off fucking the bed, slagged on his mom, announced his jerk-off schedule - I'd stay anon also :)

Not to mention admitting he was getting a hardon talking to the Congressperson.

Doesn't excuse Foley, of course.
 
It isn't unusual. The Democrats had their own scandal with Gerry Studds back in the 1980's. They not only failed to get rid of him, they embraced him. This in spite of the fact that he was playing bouncy-bouncy with a 17 year old male intern. So the hypocracy abounds on both sides of the aisle. Both parties are only interested in their own agendas, not what is good for the country.
http://www.answers.com/topic/gerry-studds

The main difference is that 2006 isn't 1983. The forces of sanctimony are now in the saddle, so to speak, thanks mainly to -- guess who -- the Republicans! So they made their bed, now they have to lie in it (damn, what is UP with my metaphors today?)
 
It isn't unusual. The Democrats had their own scandal with Gerry Studds back in the 1980's. They not only failed to get rid of him, they embraced him. This in spite of the fact that he was playing bouncy-bouncy with a 17 year old male intern. So the hypocracy abounds on both sides of the aisle.

It's not quite the same. Studds had a consensual relationship with a 17 year old, which doesn't exactly make him a pedophile although it shows want of judgment. On the other hand, Foley sexually harrassed several young men with unwanted sexually explicit emails and the GOP leadership did nothing.
 
It isn't unusual. The Democrats had their own scandal with Gerry Studds back in the 1980's. They not only failed to get rid of him, they embraced him. This in spite of the fact that he was playing bouncy-bouncy with a 17 year old male intern. So the hypocracy abounds on both sides of the aisle. Both parties are only interested in their own agendas, not what is good for the country.

http://www.answers.com/topic/gerry-studds

Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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To set the record straight, BOTH parties were involved in the 1983 Congressional Page Sex Scandal.

Rep. Gerry Studds (D-MA) admitted to having a sexual encounter with a (then) 17 year old male page - in 1973.

Rep. Dan Crane (R-IL) admitted to having a sexual encounter with a (then) 17 year old female page - in 1980.

Both men were initially REPRIMANDED by the House Ethics Commitee and later were CENSURED by the full House despite (then) Rep. Newt Gingrich's demands for their expulsion.

Studds held a press conference - WITH the former page at his side.
Both men stated that the encounter (which was NOT a violation of US Law - as it happened in Morocco) was consensual.
He was re-elected 5 more times by his constituents.

Crane made a series of tearful "Jimmy Swaggert-esque" apologies to his constituents and was defeated in his bid for re-election.
 
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