Supernatural / Jensen Ackles / Jared Padelecki [merged]

[falconfan]

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Well in the book of Revelation isn't the Apocalypse supposed to last 7 years?
Seems like there ought be enough material to make the Apocalypse last one more season..or maybe two.

They could stretch out the storyline but from it's conception the creator has always discussed it as a five season arc. And he maintained that until very recently, and still largely maintains it. That makes me think he planned to deal with the Apocalypse in one season and if that's what they were aiming it, changing it midstream likely wont' translate well.

Also I've heard talk about long time writer/producer Sera Gamble penning a sci-fi pilot for Showtime (about a year ago... don't know if that's still going on or not).

It' feels to meet that dispite the boys 6 year contract the creative team is readying themselves to move on.

 

[CWcharmed]

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I'm loving the way the season is going so far. The last episode had me on the edge of my seat and yelling at the TV for killing off Helen and Jo. They were my most favorite hunters other than Sam and Dean. Don't get me wrong I like Bobby a lot but Helen's attitude and Jo's actions are the greatest.

As for where supernatural is going. If I remember my Catholic High school days correctly, even though it was only two years ago I really wasn't paying that much attention during class. God will appear again with trumpets blaring riding in on a cloud. Not sure if I am right or even if they are going to get it to go that way. I think having John reappear would be a very cool thing to do. Another theory I have is that there the messiah is already born is somewhere on earth they are just going to have to find him.

There definately is a hierarchy for the angels. I believe that all the angels that we have seen are arcangels. again drawing back on my catholic school education or maybe from a different television show for this one, i don't know, there are two types of angels. One are gaurdian angels and the others are Arc angels, the warriors of the Lord. The way I see the hierarchy made is by the favorites of God. After all Jesus had favorites why not the Lord

I started a forum a couple weeks ago about the ending of Supernatural... http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284805

The writers had planned out the series since the beginning and want it to end with season 5. Jensen and Jared apparently signed for six years but I think that could change. I would hate to see the Supernatural end but I think it might be a smart thing to do. Have the audience wanting more and Ending it with a bang.

 

[neoachilles]

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It's been a while since someone's posted, so I figured I'd give the thread a little bump. Was anyone else a wee bit disappointed at tonight's season finale? I don't know, I guess I was hoping for a bit more bang for my buck. Not knocking it or anything, I just wanted something more. In any case, I gotta ask, wtf is up with Chuck? What was that at the end?

 

[matt1980111]

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I just got into this show. It's on when I'm getting ready for work and it seems so interesting. I missed tonight's season finale but I'll catch it tomorrow night.

 

[Tadaa]

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Nice to see they're coming back next year. The season finale tonight was.....I'll save my opinion for later.

 

[falconfan]

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It's been a while since someone's posted, so I figured I'd give the thread a little bump. Was anyone else a wee bit disappointed at tonight's season finale? I don't know, I guess I was hoping for a bit more bang for my buck. Not knocking it or anything, I just wanted something more. In any case, I gotta ask, wtf is up with Chuck? What was that at the end?

Chuck is God. At least that's what I took from it. It takes the meta-thing to a whole new level. The writer of "Supernatural" actually being God in the series "Supernatural"

 

[falconfan]

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So.... wow. The series just ended. I don't know what happens next year, but the show just ended. The finale itself, I think was a bit slow and melodramatic but it was clearly a completion of Kripke's vision and I think it was quite bold of them to just go for it like that.

I'm getting a little tired of them bringing people back to life. I mean death loses its meaning if we keep resurrecting people. And I was upset that there was no acknowledgement that Adam was a 'weaker' host than Dean. I feel like it needs to be acknowledge with so much of the season being the angels trying to bend Dean to their will.

 

[Jayden]

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I just got into this show. That Jensen is so fucking hot I cant take my eyes off of him.

 

[Tadaa]

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Chuck is God. At least that's what I took from it. It takes the meta-thing to a whole new level. The writer of "Supernatural" actually being God in the series "Supernatural"

But he was hitting on girls and drinking liquor He did vanish at the end, hmmm.

 

[falconfan]

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But he was hitting on girls and drinking liquor He did vanish at the end, hmmm.

Yeah and after providing some greater wisdom as to the boys struggle and its true meaning. It really felt like that was the implication to me and its not like Supernatural is adverse to unconventional portrayals of traditional figures.

 

[neoachilles]

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So.... wow. The series just ended. I don't know what happens next year, but the show just ended. The finale itself, I think was a bit slow and melodramatic but it was clearly a completion of Kripke's vision and I think it was quite bold of them to just go for it like that.

I'm getting a little tired of them bringing people back to life. I mean death loses its meaning if we keep resurrecting people. And I was upset that there was no acknowledgement that Adam was a 'weaker' host than Dean. I feel like it needs to be acknowledge with so much of the season being the angels trying to bend Dean to their will.

Yeah, I can't see how they plan to top this season, although from what I hear, this next season is going to go back to basics. Back to the way it was in season 1. Now as for Adam, yeah it's obvious that he was the back-up plan for Michael's host. The boobie prize, as it were.

I have to say, though, that listening to Lucifer and Michael argue reminded me of nothing less than the arguments Sam and Dean used to have about John's plans way back when. Lucifer was never more sympathetic than he was in that scene.

 

[falconfan]

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Yeah, I can't see how they plan to top this season, although from what I hear, this next season is going to go back to basics. Back to the way it was in season 1. Now as for Adam, yeah it's obvious that he was the back-up plan for Michael's host. The boobie prize, as it were.

I have to say, though, that listening to Lucifer and Michael argue reminded me of nothing less than the arguments Sam and Dean used to have about John's plans way back when. Lucifer was never more sympathetic than he was in that scene.

Well, yeah the entire relationship was built to reflect the one between Michael and Lucifer.

I have no problem with the 'back to the basics' concept but I feel like this is going to be the jump the shark moment. It's never going to feel the same after this. I give them mega props if they can pull it off but I just doubt it.

 

[aijalon18]

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Yea this poor little thread was abandoned.I guess the finale was ok. Not disappointed or thrilled like seasons 1-3 finales.But I loved all the flashbacks. I didnt realize how much Jared's looks have changed. Jensen pretty much looks the same.

I think the show is still great overall. I love how they constantly acknowledge their large gay fan base. I love Crowley and him taking an iphone pic of kissing Bobby with tongue.

 

[matt1980111]

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Like I wrote earlier, I'm new to the show (I've neve seen an episode before this season...hell, I haven't seen every episode this season either) but I think the fact the series was only meant to last 5 seasons plays a lot into what some are disappointed about.

I think instead of changing everything to set up season 6, they decided to keep the original plan that would see the show end and just add in a few open ended storylines for the next season.

 

[falconfan]

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Also, everyone dies, and then 5 minutes later they're all fine again. Death on this show has lost all impact. Why not just go and bring back everyone who's died since the first episode? (Is anyone else thinking of that scene at the end of Kiss Kiss Bang Bang? )

Well the point of killing Bobby and Castiel like that was clearly to build tension and create the feeling that they might actually kill off Dean (again). I wonder if the show ended at this season like they originally planned if we'd see those resurrections. I mean this entire SEASON was building up to death killing off all the recurring characters one by one. I wouldn't be surprised if the plan was to just leave Dean broken and alone, brooding like the modern day cowboy that he is.

I agree that there was too much chatting, I could do without Sam's conversation with Lucifer. I think it worked well conceptually but they didn't know how to execute it properly. I mean Sam NEEDED to say yes and he needed to fight Lucifer eternally that's what the whole damn series built up to. I just wish they didn't talk about it in such an on-the-nose fashion this season. Before you'd see their emotions in flashes of anger, in their actions, now they talk about it alot in a more melodramatic fashion.

But death does have some meaning you Pamela, Jo, Ellen, John, Gabrielle, Anna, and Zachariah all bit the dust for good. But you know that the core four aren't ever going to be gone for long.

What I'm most concerned/worried about is how they're going to get Dean on the road again next season. As a man who defines himself by his family I can't imagine the character would ever run out on Lisa and... ummm that kid and I really don't want to have another 'oh my family's been brutally slaughtered' thing.

 

[Sausy]

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It was going so well,with the two episodes playing up Crowley(Mark Sheppard should have a sequel,"That's My Demon" he is such a hoot...and so fond of gay references,as well)that the last battle was a bummer,going the least satisfying route possible.Castiel apparently being promoted to an archangel and taking over the business of governing Heaven and creation in God and Michael's absence was inspired,though.Lucifer seemed surprised by Sam's decision to say yes,not arrogantly unprepared for a fight to the death.Michael,good son that he is now is in the pit with bad boy brother Lucifer apparently forever....but at least Armageddon was avoided it seemed TOO easy,too pat.God(apparently Chuck,still has a LOT of explaining to do as a deadbeat dad who ran off when things got tough)seems to definitely work in furiously mysterious ways,as Sam(in what condition we don't really have a clue)was also returned like new in the last shot,right after Chuck(God,whatever was putting the finishing touches on his new Supernatural book/Bible,the apparent literal "Word of God")Though the little perspective about endings never being quite satisfying,holes are left opened,endings aren't necessarily endings,not explained,etc...was too on the point dead on a description of this episode.I'm still hopeful for next season but would like falconfan not be interested in seeing Dean's newfound tranquility,precarious as it is be shattered byan artificial crisis like killing off Lisa and her son and having Dean seek vengeance.After what he's been through,and knowing the nature of God and Heaven now,not so perfectly ordered and wonderful I don't think he could handle that,he'd pardon the pun "Chuck" it all off and end his life because there would be then NOTHING for him to live for.He dedicated himself to help save humanity,and like Castiel said,he did...no heaven,no hell on Earth...just more of the same.For the price the brothers are paying in saving the world and defying the arbitariness of their destiny,proving that free will makes us who we are,our own personal uniqueness...cold comfort indeed.

Sorry about the rambling,but as much as I love the series last night could have been so much more.Maybe the series finale next May can deliver the satisfying payoff the fans had expected.Not perfection,not unceasing bliss,but a chance to live for themselves,and not pawns of competing agendas from on high and down below.

 

[falconfan]

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I'm still hopeful for next season but would like falconfan not be interested in seeing Dean's newfound tranquility,precarious as it is be shattered byan artificial crisis like killing off Lisa and her son and having Dean seek vengeance.After what he's been through,and knowing the nature of God and Heaven now,not so perfectly ordered and wonderful I don't think he could handle that,he'd pardon the pun "Chuck" it all off and end his life because there would be then NOTHING for him to live for.He dedicated himself to help save humanity,and like Castiel said,he did...no heaven,no hell on Earth...just more of the same.For the price the brothers are paying in saving the world and defying the arbitariness of their destiny,proving that free will makes us who we are,our own personal uniqueness...cold comfort indeed.

Well what it boils down to, for me is this, they ended one story and most begin another. Beginning with the brutal slaughtering of a family AGAIN the way John's story and Sam's story and Luke Skywalker's story and Ethan Edwards story.... I mean there are other ways to kick off an epic journey, here's to hoping the writers find one.

 

[LiquidSky]

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Well the point of killing Bobby and Castiel like that was clearly to build tension and create the feeling that they might actually kill off Dean (again). I wonder if the show ended at this season like they originally planned if we'd see those resurrections. I mean this entire SEASON was building up to death killing off all the recurring characters one by one. I wouldn't be surprised if the plan was to just leave Dean broken and alone, brooding like the modern day cowboy that he is.

I think Castiel would have been back (for the scene with Dean in the car) but not Bobby and no last camera shot of Sam. I'm curious what direction the show will go next season.

 

[aijalon18]

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I cant believe people are that disappointed. I thought Sam at the end was good. he's back from hell but we dont know who is in control and where is Michael? Decent cliffhanger. I dont like Dean going with that girl at the end. Of all the female guest stars from Dean's past she didnt really stand out to me, in looks or personality. The only girl who seemed to stand out from Dean's past was Anna. I dont like what they ended up doing to her character.

I didnt expect a huge biblical blowout b/c Supernatural has never had a huge budget. But it could have been a bit different. How much of waste of time was Sam/Satan killing those random demons from his past? That was so stupid.

 

[falconfan]

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I cant believe people are that disappointed. I thought Sam at the end was good. he's back from hell but we dont know who is in control and where is Michael? Decent cliffhanger. I dont like Dean going with that girl at the end. Of all the female guest stars from Dean's past she didnt really stand out to me, in looks or personality. The only girl who seemed to stand out from Dean's past was Anna. I dont like what they ended up doing to her character.

I didnt expect a huge biblical blowout b/c Supernatural has never had a huge budget. But it could have been a bit different. How much of waste of time was Sam/Satan killing those random demons from his past? That was so stupid.

Likewise, I think that Anna was far and away Dean's most solid love interest and also didn't think they treated her fairly. But after she got whisked away to be tortured by heaven's thugs for rebelling I think it was acceptable that she come out harder around the edges. As far as Lisa, well that felt appropriate because since her introduction she's served as Dean's idyllic woman. The thing to keep in mind about Dean is like any great 'cowboy' the boy is 100% about family. He walked into insta-family with hot loving wife and adorable son all tee-ed up for him. That I get.

It's not that Sam's appearance at teh end wasn't done well I'm just tired of people coming back to life. Like really 4/5 finales has ended with one of them dying adn then coming back before the next episode (or within the finale).