Why don't you venture into CE&P?

[MidnightPrism]

I'm not really into politics, so I don't venture there often

 

[davy]

i don't like the fact that it's segregated from hot topics. i feel that politics has a massive bearing on the day to day lives of every person and, as such, should be discussed right here on hot topics instead of being suffled of somewhere else were people can easily (and apparently wholesale) ignore it.

so i try not to support its separation from hot topics, by not posting in it.

 

[Andreus]

interestingly enough, no one has ever caught that end of my sarcastic edge yet... lol

my fart threads are a private little joke that no one has caught onto

everytime i notice that there are ten or more threads on the first page of h.t. dedicated to dick size, circumcision and/or anal sex, i start one on farts or shit to see if people really enjoy talking about every body function, or just the ones of a sexual nature

they are my way of poking fun at the sexual silliness factor everyonce in a while

interstingly enough, as with all threads, the complainers complain, the jokers joke, the players play, and the serious guys give honest answers.

it reminds me that people are the issue at jub, not the topics or the forums.

you cant make people change with a rule or a thread title or a location.

 

[Andreus]

i don't like the fact that it's segregated from hot topics. i feel that politics has a massive bearing on the day to day lives of every person and, as such, should be discussed right here on hot topics instead of being suffled of somewhere else were people can easily (and apparently wholesale) ignore it.

so i try not to support its separation from hot topics, by not posting in it.

moving them seems to have taken the heat out of hot topics, and that may have been the plan

i think the forum was created during the last presidential elections to relieve H.T. of the overflow

it may just be that it needs to be a seasonal forum

i think that moving entertainment out of hot topics was a bad move as well

what is left in pop culture for gay men besides farts and congrats after you take out politics, sexuality, and entertainment?

 

[davy]

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what is left in pop culture for gay men besides farts and congrats after you take out politics, sexuality, and entertainment?

rotflmao !!!

 

[Zeremonie]

moving them seems to have taken the heat out of hot topics, and that may have been the plan

i think the forum was created during the last presidential elections to relieve H.T. of the overflow

it may just be that it needs to be a seasonal forum

i think that moving entertainment out of hot topics was a bad move as well

what is left in pop culture for gay men besides farts and congrats after you take out politics, sexuality, and entertainment?

As I recall, the CE&P at least originally, was made during the least presidential elections to deal partially with all the discussions that were going on then and overwhelming to HT. But I think, at least I think, that CE&P has become a forum of its own right. On a personal note, I tend to like it better when we all play in the same sandbox. However I think it sort of makes sense to break things out a bit for other reasons.

I wouldn't mind seeing the entertainment forum merged back into HT.

To answer the question at hand, I think CE&P requires a lot more energy and time than any other area of the board, imho, and I rarely feel like I've got that energy in me. I really don't have a lot of hours for this board. Basically, you really only see me posting a lot during the weekends.

 

[man_crazy]

Same reason why other people dont go there. Too much drama in that area.

 

[GL]

I think that the forum needs to be shut down and all the political issues need to be reintegrated into hot topics, a forum in desperate need of posts with more meat and less fluff. People in hot topics are constantly complaining that the forum is flooded with congrats and party threads.

the people involved in plotical debate will have to learn to play by the standard JUB rules or hit the road. You have to be civil in every other forum, and it will take the full attention of all the mod staff to pull those threads back in conroll.

maybe after a few months of reintegration, if nesesary, perhaps it could be restored, but i dont think it has any real hopes of success.

The more I think on these passages the more I like them. Don't get me wrong I would prefer to have CE&P left as its own separate entity. It makes it that much easier to ignore them completely. But the Wild West Saloon mentality that permeates that forum needs to be checked.

If these politically charged threads were incorporated into HT it would force everyone to play by the same rules. Those that don't wish to participate can ignore those threads like any other they choose to ignore. But at the same time those who might not have participated before may actually begin to do so.

The more separate and distinct voices that participate may elevate those discussions out of the current mire they are in. I still believe that there needs to be a means to discuss these issues, but they must be done so that everyone can contribute without being bashed for having opinions that might not mesh with the others.

 

[gsdx]

YET, I will say that I made a CE&P-like post in Hot Topics about a NM city being held hostage by a terrorist-ransom seeker - and only TWO people replied.

There is also something wrong with that.

I suppose its not as interesting as what a fart smells like when farted into a paper bag, but, still, what exactly is a HOT TOPIC is a city being threatened isn't one?

I read that report and chills went up my spine. I posted a response. . . and then I watched as it moved down the page and off the bottom. Same thing happened with Tornados in the UK and Gays in India.

Heck, even bath houses in Texas got more attention.

Ah, but cocks?

(See photo attached.)

i don't like the fact that it's segregated from hot topics. i feel that politics has a massive bearing on the day to day lives of every person and, as such, should be discussed right here on hot topics instead of being suffled of somewhere else were people can easily (and apparently wholesale) ignore it.

I remember the creation of the CE&P forum. It came about before the last American election when Hot Topics was flooded with topic after topic about the election, and most of the topics were repeated over and over again. Every news tidbit was posted. Hot Topics became something of a three-ring circus of American politics and, after many complaints, the CE&P forum was created.

 

[gsdx]

My apologies to Zeremonie for repeating her explanation. I had to create the screen print and she managed to post before I did.

Sorry, Mel.

 

[sixthson]

Because the idea of gay conservative republicans makes me laugh and I wouldn't want to encounter any of them. How self-loathing can you get? It's like a black person wanting to join the KKK.

This is a perfect example of why so few go to CE&P...extremists and their attack dog views.

It is supposed to be a place to discuss ideas and events of the day, but it ends up being attacks on personalities and those with different political views.

I don't disagree with much of what Andreus has said (on this particular topic, at least ), but in all honesty, how many of us are innocent of incivility and going off topic into personal remarks? Very few, I would guess. We must all admit to our failures there. Many of the threads are nothing more than baiting threads.

I think that those who want to take credit for CE&P being the best political forum on the web, will also be the ones to destroy it. They will be happy to find another forum when they have finally taken JUB's down with them.

I am in awe of the mods who have the awesome responsibility of moderating this forum. It is a thankless and maddening job, I am sure. It is for sure they can not please everyone, all the time.

 

[Zeremonie]

My apologies to Zeremonie for repeating her explanation. I had to create the screen print and she managed to post before I did.

Sorry, Mel.

Huh? You didn't do anything that I thought warranted any kind of apologies. We could just kiss now and make up and discuss conspiracy theories related to 911?

 

[Andreus]

if the CE&P forum people were playing in Hot Topics then those threads would not have been ignored

they were probably placed in hot topics instead of CE&P because the thread starters were well aware that if they had been placed in that zoo, no real discussion of the issues of the thread would have come to bear. it would have descended into flames within five or so posts.

its a damned if you do and damned if you dont situation right now in regards to current events

that is just unnaceptable

As Herry intimated, though, the complainers will complain no matter what.

A constructive resolution needs to be offerd for consideration that JD and Seth would take seriously or this is just one more bitch and moan thread. I am as sick of the hot topics forum being overwhelmed with complaint threads as some others are about the congrats threads.

reintegration, even if temporary, may actually be a workable solution.

perhaps after reintegration occurs, a real debate forum with a much different structure could be developed to eventually replace it.

there has to be a better way than what is currently occuring, though.

edit: Sixthson, buddy, if you really think that the JUB CE&P forum is the best on the net then you dont travel around much. There is an entirely different standard of rules that apply to such forums that people here would simply be shocked about. For example.... many of them only allow debate on a current event for a set time, maybe three days to a week. Teams are assigned so insure that both sides will get equal representation and after the thread is closed, the mebership actually votes on who has won.

believe me, the CE&P forum here is not an internet standard for such debates. it is an anomally. it is a group of people taking advantage of the JUB tollerance policy on free speech.

 

[gsdx]

Huh? You didn't do anything that I thought warranted any kind of apologies. We could just kiss now and make up and discuss conspiracy theories related to 911?

Well, we could do the kiss and make up thing, I suppose, but I'm not up on the latest theories. You'd have to tell me what to say.

 

[sixthson]

edit: Sixthson, buddy, if you really think that the JUB CE&P forum is the best on the net then you dont travel around much. There is an entirely different standard of rules that apply to such forums that people here would simply be shocked about. For example.... many of them only allow debate on a current event for a set time, maybe three days to a week. Teams are assigned so insure that both sides will get equal representation and after the thread is closed, the mebership actually votes on who has won.

believe me, the CE&P forum here is not an internet standard for such debates. it is an anomally. it is a group of people taking advantage of the JUB tollerance policy on free speech.

Andreus, dollface, I happened to be quoting alfie on that remark. I guess in true CE&P style, I should have cited my source, right? So, the standard is his not mine.

 

[Andreus]

Andreus, dollface, I happened to be quoting alfie on that remark. I guess in true CE&P style, I should have cited my source, right? So, the standard is his not mine.

my mistake, honeybunch

i cant imagine you quoting heir genneralle...lol

thats the biggest suprise i've read here yet

 

[Snickers52]

I don't go there, or the politics forums on another web site simply because I abhor anything and everything to do with politics and learned long ago that no matter what I say about politics or religion I'm going to piss somebody off and a fight will insue. So I think it's just best to stay clear. Plus the fact that gay politics forums are always nothing but circle jerks anyway. Everybody accusing everybody else of being wrong.

 

[Andreus]

absolutely amazing...

a guy from CE&P just took umbrage at a post of mine and instead of just addressing the issues, he made this post

http://justusboys.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1780809&postcount=37

that stuff just isnt welcome in most of the JUB forums, and it serves as a prime example of why so many people are just plain fed up.

 

[Lube]

If these politically charged threads were incorporated into HT it would force everyone to play by the same rules. Those that don't wish to participate can ignore those threads like any other they choose to ignore. But at the same time those who might not have participated before may actually begin to do so.

I dunno. Isn't it bad enough that we have 11 threads started by newboy12 on the first page of Hot Topics right now? I can't imagine all the CE&P crazies there, too. I would absolutely positively leave in a heartbeat.

 

[just_mills]

I'm not clever enough for CE&P...

That would be on of my arguments, also!
Plus the fact Politics doesnt interest me a great deal.
Also the majority of the threads are American-related, which I dont think me posting in them will make a difference, and I wouldnt have a great deal of worthy input, as someone else posted previously, if I remember rightly!