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20/20 Natalee Holloway

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Is anyone watching 20/20 right now. I can't believe all this happened last night. Well atleast the videos being aired and stuff. i haven't been an avid follower of the whole case, but this thing just got blown way open. Wasn't her mom on Oprah a few weeks ago talking about how the case was closed. This is amazing how long this sting operation has been going on, and how the guy just decided to go after him. He's pretty good for not being a cop. Just wondering if anyone else was watching it...
 
i missed the last 1/2...actually taped the 1st 1/2 by mistake(Notes from the Underbelly was supposed to be on). what i'm wondering though is how legal the whole sting thing was. i mean would they really be able to use anything in court?
 
this thing just got blown way open.

Not really. Joran van der Sloot confessed to dumping her body, not murdering her. According to him, she was very drunk that night and while they were making out on the beach, she started to convulse. When she stopped, Joran thought she was dead, he called a friend and together, they dumped the body. That is his current story. I would like to add to this that he's lied quite a few times already, so this could very well be made-up. Still, he has not confessed to her murder!

A question that's been haunting me: why this case? Why is her disappearance more important than that of thousands of others? I find the attention given to this disappearance disproportionately large if you compare it to the other cases.
 
I watched the 20/20 event ... and share a few thoughts.

Natalie Holloway's divorced mother must be cringing at the thought of her "angelic" sweet Southern Baptist girl - from a wonderfully religious family - dying while having her hands down some hunky 17 year old's pants -stone drunk after hanging out at the local sleaze bar (aren't good Baptists not supposed to drink??) and having the same guy drink rum out of her naked navel and probably having the time of his life feeling her up (as he himself said). ... Hey Mama Twitty (that's her name!) - your daughter was probably living the life of a sinful slut in Aruba - and when you play with fire you get burned.

And I would love to know what was the motivation for this "older" man to court Joran's "friendship" to get him to "confess" as he did. Joran is 20 and this guy is probably in his 30's or 40's - perhaps there was some 'hanki-panki" going on that we are not aware of. Joran is not that bad-looking for a young, handsome, virile Dutch-boy. Methinks perhaps Mr Patrick had a "finger" or som ething else in the dike? Seems kind of suspicious to me ... after all, Joran was impressed with "Patrik"'s Explorer - I wonder what more "Patrik" was impressed with .... We all know how us older guys like to go after "chicken" (or so the world likes to portray us!) ... too many questions ....
 
A question that's been haunting me: why this case? Why is her disappearance more important than that of thousands of others? I find the attention given to this disappearance disproportionately large if you compare it to the other cases.

yeah i wondered that too. and rick2206 - that point about her getting drunk, offering guys body shots, etc is what shocked me the most.

i didn't follow the story as much when it first hit the news, but this wasn't exactly a kidnapping or a potential-rape situation. this doesn't sound too pre-meditated.

she clearly didn't set her limits when it came to her alcohol intake that night. and i'm wondering - where the hell were her friends during all of this??

van der sloot's story about her wanting and consenting (albeit under the influence of alcohol) to go home with him is actually plausible because if her girlfriends were in fact at the bar with her, then they would've objected if they suspected foul play. women party in groups for a reason.

but, it seems that if there was no objection on her friends' part, it's probably because they knew she "was going to get some."

now, what exactly happened on that beach is still unclear, but if this van der sloot guy was being honest about her convulsing and not harming her outside of that, then this could very credibly be a case of severe alcohol poisoning - something that's not uncommon among college students across the country. the implication of that is this: he may not have been responsible for her immediate death.

the way he handled himself after she started convulsing, however, and the decisions he made were completely stupid and wrong. he may be hiding something else, but he also may have simply found himself in a state of panic, causing him to use very terrible, unforgivable judgment.
 
My hting is if she did indeed have alochol poisioning, and she was throwing up, unless she choked on her vomit she would not ahev immediately died. I've been arudn wehn alcohol poisioning strikes, and it is not pretty. It's somehting that makes you wanna scream help, and freak out. Which apparently he didn't do.

Also ljhotboy says, weather made up or true, he is obviously a very evil man, and wouldn't think twice about doing it again.
 
I watched the 20/20 event ... and share a few thoughts.

Natalie Holloway's divorced mother must be cringing at the thought of her "angelic" sweet Southern Baptist girl - from a wonderfully religious family - dying while having her hands down some hunky 17 year old's pants -stone drunk after hanging out at the local sleaze bar (aren't good Baptists not supposed to drink??) and having the same guy drink rum out of her naked navel and probably having the time of his life feeling her up (as he himself said). ... Hey Mama Twitty (that's her name!) - your daughter was probably living the life of a sinful slut in Aruba - and when you play with fire you get burned.

And I would love to know what was the motivation for this "older" man to court Joran's "friendship" to get him to "confess" as he did. Joran is 20 and this guy is probably in his 30's or 40's - perhaps there was some 'hanki-panki" going on that we are not aware of. Joran is not that bad-looking for a young, handsome, virile Dutch-boy. Methinks perhaps Mr Patrick had a "finger" or som ething else in the dike? Seems kind of suspicious to me ... after all, Joran was impressed with "Patrik"'s Explorer - I wonder what more "Patrik" was impressed with .... We all know how us older guys like to go after "chicken" (or so the world likes to portray us!) ... too many questions ....

Would you have your daughter (if you have one) go out with him in any circumstance??

Sounds like to me you give him a pass on this case.
 
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