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Ok so I am 24 year old asian virgin and in the closet. I'm a typical dude, I have known i was gay for quite some time. I'm unsure as what to do. I'm not ready to come out yet and haven't even told anyone. I want to meet some guys and just really take it slow. Is this wrong for me to want to kinda slowly integrate it into my life. I don't have any gay friends, but would like some and don't want to go out to the bars. Anyone have any ideas or advice on what i can do? I'm not looking for a hookup to get it over with i just want to meet and talk to some guys and just have those friends.
 
Oh lord.

Well. You could look for other closeted gay guys who are afraid of coming out.

Or better.

Go to a gay group of some kind where people share your general interests.

Or, just make as many acquaintances and friends as you can. Some of them are bound to turn up gay.

Get out there and live.
 
Ok so I am 24 year old asian virgin and in the closet. I'm a typical dude, I have known i was gay for quite some time. I'm unsure as what to do. I'm not ready to come out yet and haven't even told anyone. I want to meet some guys and just really take it slow. Is this wrong for me to want to kinda slowly integrate it into my life. I don't have any gay friends, but would like some and don't want to go out to the bars. Anyone have any ideas or advice on what i can do? I'm not looking for a hookup to get it over with i just want to meet and talk to some guys and just have those friends.

Usually, I stay away from this forum, because others such as Karabalut, G-Lex, and TX Beau are the masters when it comes to giving advice and answering questions. With that being said:

1. Is this wrong for me to want to kinda slowly integrate it into my life. There's nothing wrong with when or how you want to approach meeting men.

2. I don't have any gay friends, but would like some and don't want to go out to the bars.
I would not focus specifically on trying to find gay friends, but simply friends. However, if you're focused on a relationship, then find some gay organizations and groups within your area, if there any.

It's great that you've accepted that you're gay. However, you're going to have to let other guys know that you're interested in men. Does that mean that you have to announce to everyone that you're gay? No. However, your going to have to give some clue to someone that you're interested in men. How else will they know otherwise? How can anyone help you? How can you help yourself?

If it's just friendship that you seek, I'll reiterate that you do not need to focus on finding gay friends. Focus on simply meeting friends, and when you're comfortable, disclose that you're gay. If they're friends, they will not have an issue talking with you about sexuality, whether they're gay or not. In addition, they may know some men who are gay and can introduce you to them.
 
if i were you i would work on coming out. to your closest friends, to your parents, to all your friends, to everybody (in roughly that order). the rest will more or less fall into place... or if not, you can ask more specific questions. because really, your question right now is so broad that i find it kinda difficult to say all that much.

you say that dating and hook ups are not really what youre looking for, and really, thats good because that shouldnt be your focus right now, even though i can imagine that you might be curious and horny. but first build yourself a more healthy social situation.

oh yeah, and dont lose sleep about he virgin thing. its a big deal for yourself, but no-one else really cares.
 
Ok so I am 24 year old asian virgin and in the closet. I'm a typical dude, I have known i was gay for quite some time. I'm unsure as what to do. I'm not ready to come out yet and haven't even told anyone. I want to meet some guys and just really take it slow. Is this wrong for me to want to kinda slowly integrate it into my life. I don't have any gay friends, but would like some and don't want to go out to the bars. Anyone have any ideas or advice on what i can do? I'm not looking for a hookup to get it over with i just want to meet and talk to some guys and just have those friends.

OK, well, you have told someone you're gay. You've told us all. No that may not be as scary as telling your friends but think of it this way, thousands of guys already know. I think that you are ready to come out, you're at the door, you know who you are, you know who you want, the next step you're already contemplating. Good for you, you're already farther along then a lot of the guys in here.

So, some moral support. Yes you can go slow. But you may find, like I did, that once you start, you feel so much better, that you want to get it all over with. When I finally decided, I said the same thing to myself, that I was going to go slow. Two weeks later I'd told everyone I knew and a whole lot of people I didn't - just because it felt so incredibly emancipating to let that burden go.

That said, coming out will not solve all your problems, it's a process, the telling people is the turning point, but we usually need some more time to work out all the cerebral closet detritus left in our heads. Expect that, it's normal, you'll deal. Just remember, we none of us get any younger, and you don't want to waste any more valuable youth on the closet. Start now. There's nothing sadder than the regrets of a 60 year old closet case, about lifetime he was too afraid to live.

When you get discouraged, when you stall, remember that. You only get one shot at youth. You can spend that alone in the dark, or you can get out there and find some sunshine.


On to guys.

So what is it you mean when you say "meet some guys," are you looking for permanent, or are you just looking to date around a bit and get your feet wet?

Some blunt advice. You aren't in a position to sustain a long term relationship. You still have your own issues that are pretty limiting, and it would be unfair to ask someone else to deal with that.

In fact I suspect you'll find that there aren't that many well balanced, out gay men who will commit to someone in the closet. It's a deal killer for me, and every gay man I know. I hope you understand why that is.


So what do you do. Well, unlike a lot of guys in here, I say go find yourself some experience, get some road under your feet. I personally do not find anything magical about the "first time." Frankly they're awkward far more often than they are magical expressions of two souls flying together to paradise.

When you find a guy who makes your dick hard, who's also into you, I say go for it. Condoms, lube, caution. There's nothing that says you can't have a good time looking for Romeo.

If you're the type of guy who thinks your first time absolutely must be love of the pure driven snow variety - well, I suspect you've got a long frustrating wait in front of you.

Also, get off the internet. The net is good for hook ups - so long as you go into that with reasonable expectations of what you're going to find. But you can't date through chat, or text, or facebook - these things are crutches that have been the cause of plenty of needless drama in a whole lot of guys who come in here.

I am a firm believer that in order to hone the social skills and dating etiquette - not to mention the confidence necessary to make you a good prospect, you have to interact with people face to face, in real time. All of those things take practice - in person is how you get it. Text does not teach you to keep up your end of the conversation.

Often in here we see guys who are completely consumed with the attributes of the other guy, how great he is, how hot, how nice, etc. and that's understandable, but you can't forget how good a prospect you present of yourself if you want to be consistently successful.

Spend some time working on yourself. Whatever that means to you. Some guys work out, some get educated, some spend a lot of time on their appearance. How you present yourself is extremely important to the kind and quality of guys you will attract.

There's nothing wrong with going to bars, or clubs, or theater groups, or charities, political orgs, soccer teams, book clubs, or any of the thousand and one things that gay men do together.


About friends.

Find your friends where ever you can, however if you want gay friends, it's best to go where gay men congregate. It's probably a lot easier for a novice to build up confidence in a scenario where the group has a common interest as a focus; than it would be for you to jump into the club scene. Although that can definitely be done as well, it's pretty much how I found my gay peers.

I am also a believer that a gay guy needs gay friends. Not exclusively gay friends, but a least a few to understand, and support you - in a way no straight person ever could.
 
I know all the questions are broad..sry about that... I think in general I kinda want to get out there but im scared. That is a much more honest opinion of it all. I would like to tell my closest friends but i know all of them are very conservative and don't think they will be accepting of it all. I totally see that i need to come out to have a healthy relationship. I know my family is liberal and i think they know to some extent but are being supportive of me in general. Thanks everyone for their advice about it all. I'm new to all of this and just a bit freaked out even talking about it on here but feel much better. I'm very social and use to the straight world and dating scene just wondering if it varies when you try finding a gay. I came here because I felt like this would be safest for me to get advice. I guess what i want to know is people's experiences with this process cause i don't know how to go about it. I hope I'm not coming across as a dick i'm just not use to talking about it with anyone or even typing about it. I don't know how to get my point across.

Thanks
Jlock
 
Of course you're sacred, we were all scared, you've been hiding this thing about yourself, that society tells you is wrong, for a very long time. Back when I was in the closet, I went through this period where I couldn't even write down the word gay - let alone apply it to myself.

Because I desperately didn't want to be a gay man. The thought of people knowing about my gayness fucking terrified me. The thought of admitting it to myself paralyzed me.

So what did I do? I went to great lengths to prove to myself and everyone else that I was straight - and when that didn't work I took my anger out on myself and everyone else. I didn't like my life, I didn't like myself, and the weight of that secret bearing down on me eventually simply became impossible to carry anymore.

I got tired of the loneliness, the distance the big lie demanded I maintain between me and everyone else; watching other people get what they wanted, move forward with their lives, and always having to deny myself the same opportunities. Always being stuck in the same frustrating charade.

All of us who are out, have hit that place. It's why we come out.

It comes down to a choice - you can let that fear drive you, or you can face it down. Are you happy with the life you have? Do you want your life on your terms?

In the end we're not closeted because of other people - we're closeted because of ourselves. Other people may help keep us stalled because we're afraid of what they're going to say. But the choice always ultimately hinges on how much happiness we're willing to seize for ourselves.

You may lose friends - you may not. We can't tell you how this is going to go for you. But always remember that building an honest foundation for your life, one that allows you to go find that guy, or live life with that freedom is the goal here.

Your life is yours, you'll never be happy living your life on their terms.

And if someone doesn't like that - fuck them.
 
im scared too. i have got no gay friends. i have a girlfrend i dont think i will ever come out and just think im bi because i have great sex with gf. i have had sex with 1 man and met one other that was awfull. the second man made me change my mind and is why im confused he was gentle and loving .right now. i was thinking about marrage 2 years ago. i need to ask some private questions and dont know if i can post them or maybe im embarresed but i need it to be descreat
 
Hey.

Stop being scared.

At least here anyway.

If you need support and guidance on coming out, this is the place to ask questions and voice your concerns.

You do need to be somewhat willing to take your balls in hand though and be prepared to do something more than fret and moan about being closeted in order to get the most out of the advice here though.

So. You have no gay friends? Why. Why not?

What are you actually afraid of?

If you can rationally assess what it is that you fear most, eg loss of family, of friends, of financial support, a free place to live, the love of your pets, you can develop a plan to deal with all of that.

Listen to TX-Beau.
 
Be very wary that many guys in the gay scene will NOT feel the same way you do when you say that you don't want to rush into anything and would prefer to make friends and take "baby steps" into the whole gay thing; I've tried this myself, and i've just had guys get pissed off at me because they thought I was rejecting them by not jumping into bed or going out to dinner with them within the first few days of knowing them.



Have you tried checking out a gay-friends website like DList? It's far less hook-up oriented than just about any other gay site out there, and that site it how I found out my friend was in the closet himself.
 
JLock--I think you're starting in a good way--where you have realized what you want to do and what you don't want. WHich is a great start! Now--like several guys here said...just meet people as friends and take it from there. You're going to need all the support you can get-especially when you decide you're ready to come out. Good luck and stay in touch! You can make good friends here too!!
 
Nothing in life is free. If you want something, you just have to go out there and get it.

Gay men don't just jump out and introduce themselves to you or fall from the sky. Even if you want to slowly integrate your sexuality into your daily life, at some point you have to risk it and make some contact with gay men. Unfortunately, it's not easy for gay guys to meet up. The two obvious options are: 1) gay establishments, e.g. bars and such and 2) the internet...craiglist, a4a, etc...

Are you sure you don't why to try the gay bars and clubs? Not everyone there is out to have sex. There are decent people out there but you won't meet them unless you cast the net. That's my advice.
 
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