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25 Years Ago, Matt Shepard was beaten & left for dead

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25 years ago today, Matt Shepard was beaten & left for dead, tied to a fence, blood covered his face except for two streaks where his tears ran dry. A deer is said to have laid beside him during the cold night. He died 6 days later.

Rest in peace, Matt & all victims of LGBT hate


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It was a flashpoint for LGBT activism, regardless of the facts or details of his death. After the initial shock wave of horror swept the nation, more and more came out about his possible familiarity with his killers and his drug dealing.

Whether his death was strictly a case of homophobic rage and murder, or somehow involved with a drug deal gone south, no one deserves to die like that, and it got the press that many lesser gay bashings did not.

Through a generally improved sympathy for gay lives, Brokeback Mountain was released about seven years after this, poignantly set in the Great West, a fitting rebuttal to his death, even a potentially mythologized death. There was a dark reference in the movie to a dad killing and castrating a couple of ranch hands caught being gay.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
it got the press that many lesser gay bashings did not.
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It got all the press it did because he was still alive when he was found and there was hope he might survive. So the whole nation got a "will he make it or won't he?" drama.

I remember that the doctor who announced that they couldn't save him and he had died couldn't hold back tears.
 
The Matthew Shepard case seems to have done US LGBTI's a world of good (that we have had in Western Europe for decades), but it does beg the following questions:

a). how often do gay men get killed for being gay (more than anybody else gets killed) outside of ISIS?

b).What other historical events do we see as important that had a very different import to what we think they had?
 
Harke the Boeotarch said:
The Matthew Shepard case seems to have done US LGBTI's a world of good (that we have had in Western Europe for decades), but it does beg the following questions:

a). how often do gay men get killed for being gay (more than anybody else gets killed) outside of ISIS?
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This is impossible to calculate, per our invisibility.

I joke with my peers about how some inner city violence people attribute to drugs or gang wars is actually a downlow lover's quarrel
 
fabulouslyghetto said:
This is impossible to calculate, per our invisibility.

I joke with my peers about how some inner city violence people attribute to drugs or gang wars is actually a downlow lover's quarrel
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Not to hijack but side story:

ADD: I've had a frontrow seat to this. My best friend, who is DL, got into another DL dude and it is MESSY. So my friend "Jack" moved in with the other guy "Desean" who lives with his baby mama. Jack starts a sexual relationship with Desean's babymama as they aren't together anymore. One day while Jack is balls-deep in babymama Desean bursts into the room and they start fighting. Mind you, since this was during coitus Jack isn't wearing anything but boxers as these guys are rollin around wrestling. Towards the end of the fight, of course, Desean grabs, as Jack described it, "everything" (balls, dick). I'm sure it was played off as "fighting dirty" but we all know good and well Desean probably wasn't even mad about Jack sleeping with his babymama since they hadn't been together for years at that point, he used faux jealousy as an excuse to wrestle with a naked jack and, lo and behold, ended up with a fistful of Jack's genitilia. That's just one example.
 
Back to topic: In my teen years when this happened, I remember not really understanding what happened. Had no idea what "gay" meant or homophobia and could not grasp the idea that someone would kill someone else just for being gay. It was so foreign to me I didn't feel any pressing danger for my sexuality, cuz what's sexuality? My diagnosis was these were just some sick dudes who wanted to kill someone. Per morbid curiosity I was glued to the details of his death but now pushing 40 I can't be bothered to even think about it, it's an unspeakable way to end someone's life. I'd like to think we've made progress since then, probably have, but for every inch the disenfranchised gain, the status quo takes a mile. We got our hate crime bill, they got "gay panic defense" which has successfully been used in a few cases.
 
fabulouslyghetto said:
Back to topic: In my teen years when this happened, I remember not really understanding what happened. Had no idea what "gay" meant or homophobia and could not grasp the idea that someone would kill someone else just for being gay. My diagnosis was these were just some sick dudes who wanted to kill someone. Per morbid curiosity I was glued to the details of his death but now pushing 40 I can't be bothered to even think about it, it's an unspeakable way to end someone's life. I'd like to think we've made progress since then, probably have, but for every inch the disenfranchised gain, the status quo takes a mile. We got our hate crime bill, they got "gay panic defense" which has successfully been used in a few cases.
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I’m sexually assaulted everyday at school so plus boys look at my ass and smack it
 
fabulouslyghetto said:
Not to hijack but side story:

ADD: I've had a frontrow seat to this. My best friend, who is DL, got into another DL dude and it is MESSY. So my friend "Jack" moved in with the other guy "Desean" who lives with his baby mama. Jack starts a sexual relationship with Desean's babymama as they aren't together anymore. One day while Jack is balls-deep in babymama Desean bursts into the room and they start fighting. Mind you, since this was during coitus Jack isn't wearing anything but boxers as these guys are rollin around wrestling. Towards the end of the fight, of course, Desean grabs, as Jack described it, "everything" (balls, dick). I'm sure it was played off as "fighting dirty" but we all know good and well Desean probably wasn't even mad about Jack sleeping with his babymama since they hadn't been together for years at that point, he used faux jealousy as an excuse to wrestle with a naked jack and, lo and behold, ended up with a fistful of Jack's genitilia. That's just one example.
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Did the genitalia come off?
 
My friend knew him and I went to Matthew's funeral to support him. It was really tough with the all the media and especially the people holding signs that said Matt burn in hell. There was even kids holding signs like that. I met him Mom several times and she is very strong. Way back we raised 10k on JUB and it all went to the Matthew Shepard foundation even though it was supposed to be for Tyler Clementi but they would not accept money from an adult website. I would like to think things are a lot better which in some ways they are but in some ways they aren't. Teaching kids ANY type of hate is very bad but I see parents doing it all the time. My own stupid brother is one of them. RIP Matt. :(
 
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