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2nd Pastor Resigns Over Gay Sex Scandal

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2nd Pastor Resigns Over Gay Sex Scandal[/B]

By Associated Press

document.write(getElapsed("20061211T195110Z"));4 hours agoUPDATED 3 HOURS 58 MINUTES AGO
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. - The founding pastor of a second Colorado church has resigned over gay sex allegations, just weeks after the evangelical community was shaken by the scandal surrounding megachurch leader Ted Haggard.
Haggard, a gay-marriage opponent, admitted to unspecified "sexual immorality" when he resigned last month as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs. A male prostitute had said he had had sex with Haggard for three years.
On Sunday, Paul Barnes, founding pastor of the 2,100-member Grace Chapel in this Denver suburb, told his evangelical congregation in a videotaped message he had had sexual relations with other men and was stepping down.
Dave Palmer, associate pastor of Grace Chapel, told The Denver Post that Barnes confessed to him after the church received a call last week.
The church board of elders accepted Barnes' resignation on Thursday.
On the videotape, which The Post was allowed to view, Barnes told church members: "I have struggled with homosexuality since I was a 5-year-old boy. ... I can't tell you the number of nights I have cried myself to sleep, begging God to take this away."
Barnes, 54, led Grace Chapel for 28 years. He and his wife have two adult children.
Palmer said in a written statement that "While we cannot condone what he has done, we continue to support and love Paul."
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Normally, I would laugh, but you know, I'm really getting tired of stuff like this. It's just not a surprise anymore. Why do these guys get themselves into stupid positions like this? I think the whole thing is just pathetic. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I think it's really dumb to go into the pulpit thinking that preaching all day about the wrongs of homosexuality will take your own away. They are doing nothing but creating their own problems!
 
I think most Christians have a "closet' case that would embarass them and cause them to be hypocritical. I am gay and closeted, but I don't condemn homosexuality on one hand then practice it on the other. I find no reason to come out, it would serve no purpose. I used to be bi, but only guys I had sex with knew it; the females did not.
 
Runewell, I remember responding to a thread on the other pastor Haggard and I said he wouldn't be the last. Alas, three weeks later, here we go again. It is really getting disturbing because in most cases they are preaching against homosexuality...Who will it be next????? The real losers are the wife and children who did absolutely nothing wrong.

Runewell said:
Normally, I would laugh, but you know, I'm really getting tired of stuff like this. It's just not a surprise anymore. Why do these guys get themselves into stupid positions like this? I think the whole thing is just pathetic. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I think it's really dumb to go into the pulpit thinking that preaching all day about the wrongs of homosexuality will take your own away. They are doing nothing but creating their own problems!
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I woud laugh, but it's too good for this guy.
"Cried for god to take it away?"
He's a fucken asshole. So being gay means you can't be close to god??? I myself don't believe in god, but that is the biggest load of crap I've heard!!! IF god does exist, then he would welcome all but the most henious of sinners into heaven, becuase if people were sent to hell for things like being gay, or checking out someone while you have a boy/girlfriend or are married, then about 97% of the human race would be in hell.
 
jerryfo said:
I think most Christians have a "closet' case that would embarass them and cause them to be hypocritical. I am gay and closeted, but I don't condemn homosexuality on one hand then practice it on the other. I find no reason to come out, it would serve no purpose. I used to be bi, but only guys I had sex with knew it; the females did not.
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Used to be bisexual? You might be still bisexual, but you now claim homosexuality.
 
These fucking right wingers. If they didn't spend half of their life condeming the fags they wouldn't have so much internal conflict.

When are we ever going to get past this?

Still, I have to say, I love the fact that another "Christian" got his balls in a wringer. Was this one denouncing gays at the same time as Haggard? I might have some sympathy if he was a loving and inclusive individual - but, you know, somehow I'll bet not.
 
People have to understand the power of homophobia and how it shapes people's lives. I am assumping most people posting on this thread are 30 or under and from my generation. But remember for older people like Haggard, this guy, Foley, McGreevey they are OLDER. They come from a generation where being gay is considered a sick and twisted perversion. A thing that's worst then death. I am not defending the closeted Pastor. Just saying people need to remember that society has indeed changed a lot for the better about homosexuality. But homosexuality is a VERY controversial issue. Especially MALE homosexuality. Society still freaks out about it. I think these religious guys condition themselves into believing their self hatred. They tell themselves if they hate gays then they won't be gay. Because being gay to many people is still considered a sin. Yes the younger generation we understand we can accept ourselves being gay. But for older people its very hard. For some of them its just a very difficult thing to do.
 
this is some pretty funny shit coming from pastors who condemn homosexuality in church, but yet they pick up some guy from a bar and fuck on sunday night after evening service.
 
Gaffna, I'm with you totally. Fucking asshole.
cried every night to take this away -- and the next day, doing what comes naturally.
obviously, fucked up bad. But, the worse danger is to those of us he would vilify and persecute with a self-righteous swagger - as he continued to come every time he was chasing some guy to have sex with him.
absolutely i think he's vermin.](*,)
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wilehart1978 said:
On the videotape, which The Post was allowed to view, Barnes told church members: "I have struggled with homosexuality since I was a 5-year-old boy. ... I can't tell you the number of nights I have cried myself to sleep, begging God to take this away."</H4>By Associated Press
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I guess this disproves the Christian right's theory that it's a CHOICE. The only choice is whether to be an honest human being or live in a closet and risking hurting innocent people. I grew up in church, went to bible college and got engaged. I'm SO glad I didn't go through with it. I would have been miserable, or if I had come out after getting married, I would have hurt a wonderful woman.
 
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