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Boy, 14, arrested after four killed in US school shooting (BBC; September 4, 2024)
Casualties reported after Georgia high school shooting
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And still they don't learn [School Shooting in Winder Georgia]
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Just another day at the office. That makes 433 mass shootings in the USA in 2024 so far.
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List of mass shootings in the United States in 2024 - Wikipedia
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Because thoughts and prayers cost nothing.
Watch this become a real thorny issue in the campaigns now.
It will be used to bring all the gun nuts out to vote...but will it also be able to help pull out the common sense gun law voters out to vote.
Watch this become a real thorny issue in the campaigns now.
It will be used to bring all the gun nuts out to vote...but will it also be able to help pull out the common sense gun law voters out to vote.
Wow that's sad... 
but why???
but why???
I woke up to the news this morning of another school shooting in Georgia.
The situation in Georgia is heartbreaking, but over the Labour Day holiday in the United States, there were reported shootings from across the country - including where I live in King County.
Very close to me, drivers on Interstate 5 were dodging bullets as a gunman in a vehicle was firing on cars around him on the freeway.
The situation in Georgia is heartbreaking, but over the Labour Day holiday in the United States, there were reported shootings from across the country - including where I live in King County.
Very close to me, drivers on Interstate 5 were dodging bullets as a gunman in a vehicle was firing on cars around him on the freeway.
It appears that the culprit was on the FBI's radar.
www.bbc.co.uk
Georgia school shooting: FBI alerted police to suspect, 14, last year
Local schools were asked to monitor the 14-year-old after online threats about a school shooting in 2023, the FBI says.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Because they canWow that's sad...
It appears that the culprit was on the FBI's radar.
Georgia school shooting: FBI alerted police to suspect, 14, last year
Local schools were asked to monitor the 14-year-old after online threats about a school shooting in 2023, the FBI says.
This is difficult to understand, the suspect was "on our radar" - what does that mean?
Really? It means that the FBI were alert to the potential risk. I didn't think the term was that obscure.
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But to what degree?
The article made it sound as if the child was interviewed/interrogated and set free --- cleared to return to the everyday???
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It happens too often. The police, or the school or in this case the FBI sees the threat and then nothing happens.
But does it matter even?
America is a gun.
School shootings are so normalized now that within 48 hours, this will be out of the news cycle.
America loves its guns more than its children.
But does it matter even?
America is a gun.
School shootings are so normalized now that within 48 hours, this will be out of the news cycle.
America loves its guns more than its children.
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So there you have it. A repsonse from the Republican candidate for VP. America is a slave to its guns and has capitulated.
Father of School Shooting Suspect Arrested, Charged
Authorities say charges have to do with Georgia man allowing his son to have a gun
www.newser.com
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The father bought the gun for the son for Christmas 2023. This was after the FBI alleged the boy posted a threat online that he would shoot up his middle school. He denied the post was his, but apparently the largest Big Brother operation by Homeland Security, this side of China, was unable to prove he did.
And, many parents drink the opium of "My Child Does No Wrong", so they likely believed him.
As a citizen, I advocate executing the father and the son. They are jointly responsible, and the act is an adult act. Arguing he is disturbed is a moot point. All killers are disturbed according to sophistry. Yet, we are a top predator, so killing is programmed into our brains.
Atlanta is a fitting scene for this madness. It is the Chicago of the South. It has brutal violence and crime, disporportionately by blacks, usually perpetrated against fellow black Americans, but not exclusively. Road rage is a common event. The local news might as well be the Crime Report when I have been there on business. Many white Georgians view Atlanta as a cesspool of ghetto crime, and use its very real violence as an excuse to heavily arm themselves.
Then there is the larger national problem, and it's not gun violence. It's violence. There is a growing arrogance in America that no one can tell Americans what to do -- not foreign powers, not civil governments, not supervisors and managers at work, and not anyone in any business one might happen to be frequenting.
Identity politics has accelerated this trend. Both the right and the left have openly espoused delegitimizing the opposition, and the government itself.
The progression of the Me Generation has been steady, and began reaching outrageous levels during the pandemic, because of the pandemic. Typhoid Mary was a universal cautionary tale before then. But, it quickly became apparent that inconvenience was worse than death for too many in the US.
Now, in the aftermath, the cat is out of the bag. Airline pasenger violence remains higher. Road rage incidents increase by the day, but unreported are the myriad sub-rage incidents that are literally almost every-outing occurrences now. Drivers cannot tolerate anyone even going the speed limit if they are "in the way". Stop signs are for chumps. Parents with children in the car do wild and irresponsible passes and other crimes.
Signs in government offices, in retail, in clinics, all warn customers and clients of what behavior will not be tolerated, a clear signal it is increasing. And professionals aren't doing all that well themselves when it comes to keeping temper in check.
We live in an uncivil society. Guns have not caused it. Guns are the evidence of it. Banning automatic weapons like assault weapons will only help in the mass killings. It won't fix the murderous and arrogant attitudes, only drive them to be less efficient.
And, many parents drink the opium of "My Child Does No Wrong", so they likely believed him.
As a citizen, I advocate executing the father and the son. They are jointly responsible, and the act is an adult act. Arguing he is disturbed is a moot point. All killers are disturbed according to sophistry. Yet, we are a top predator, so killing is programmed into our brains.
Atlanta is a fitting scene for this madness. It is the Chicago of the South. It has brutal violence and crime, disporportionately by blacks, usually perpetrated against fellow black Americans, but not exclusively. Road rage is a common event. The local news might as well be the Crime Report when I have been there on business. Many white Georgians view Atlanta as a cesspool of ghetto crime, and use its very real violence as an excuse to heavily arm themselves.
Then there is the larger national problem, and it's not gun violence. It's violence. There is a growing arrogance in America that no one can tell Americans what to do -- not foreign powers, not civil governments, not supervisors and managers at work, and not anyone in any business one might happen to be frequenting.
Identity politics has accelerated this trend. Both the right and the left have openly espoused delegitimizing the opposition, and the government itself.
The progression of the Me Generation has been steady, and began reaching outrageous levels during the pandemic, because of the pandemic. Typhoid Mary was a universal cautionary tale before then. But, it quickly became apparent that inconvenience was worse than death for too many in the US.
Now, in the aftermath, the cat is out of the bag. Airline pasenger violence remains higher. Road rage incidents increase by the day, but unreported are the myriad sub-rage incidents that are literally almost every-outing occurrences now. Drivers cannot tolerate anyone even going the speed limit if they are "in the way". Stop signs are for chumps. Parents with children in the car do wild and irresponsible passes and other crimes.
Signs in government offices, in retail, in clinics, all warn customers and clients of what behavior will not be tolerated, a clear signal it is increasing. And professionals aren't doing all that well themselves when it comes to keeping temper in check.
We live in an uncivil society. Guns have not caused it. Guns are the evidence of it. Banning automatic weapons like assault weapons will only help in the mass killings. It won't fix the murderous and arrogant attitudes, only drive them to be less efficient.
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Slogans and memes are as useless as thoughts and prayers. The left is seen by many as "capitalizing" on these murders as a way to take away the right to keep and bear arms. The right is seen as a group of "gun nuts" who will surrender arms only when pried from their cold dead hands.
To remove guns from an armed society would be a risky if not impossible endeavor. It would take an amendment to the constitution and that would take years while the shootings keep happening, do we really think that the gun lovers will just hand over guns if the amendment was passed? These folks don't trust government now, come for their guns and see how they react.
A sound, rational, pragmatic and muti-faceted approach will minimize, but not stop these shootings. Laws requiring background checks, gun safes, trigger locks along with laws holding parents and guardians responsible for keeping guns out of the reach of children would be a start.
Educating and requiring staff and administrators of public schools to call in authorities, not parents, immediately when a red flag is raised such as threats on social media, a boy drawing pictures in class of guns and carnage.
Perhaps looking into the typical profile of a shooter, a lonely, ostracized, bullied adolescent boy. Then rather than to label such a person as a possible risk, find a way to make this boy a part of the school community rather than an outcast. This might take a real attitude adjustment on the part of staff and the "cool kids".
Also, metal detectors, clear back packs panic buttons and other security measures should be implemented. Airports and courthouses use these and they seem to work. Maybe a nation hot line that is anonymous for distressed and neglected youths would help as well.
To remove guns from an armed society would be a risky if not impossible endeavor. It would take an amendment to the constitution and that would take years while the shootings keep happening, do we really think that the gun lovers will just hand over guns if the amendment was passed? These folks don't trust government now, come for their guns and see how they react.
A sound, rational, pragmatic and muti-faceted approach will minimize, but not stop these shootings. Laws requiring background checks, gun safes, trigger locks along with laws holding parents and guardians responsible for keeping guns out of the reach of children would be a start.
Educating and requiring staff and administrators of public schools to call in authorities, not parents, immediately when a red flag is raised such as threats on social media, a boy drawing pictures in class of guns and carnage.
Perhaps looking into the typical profile of a shooter, a lonely, ostracized, bullied adolescent boy. Then rather than to label such a person as a possible risk, find a way to make this boy a part of the school community rather than an outcast. This might take a real attitude adjustment on the part of staff and the "cool kids".
Also, metal detectors, clear back packs panic buttons and other security measures should be implemented. Airports and courthouses use these and they seem to work. Maybe a nation hot line that is anonymous for distressed and neglected youths would help as well.