Apple 10.6 (Snow Leopard) - Full Review by PC Magazine

[gdude30]

The only good reason to jailbreak one is so you can use it on a network other than the one it was made for. You may have problems upgrading it's operating system which will leave you with less options.

As for price $99. for an 8 gig iPhone 3G isn't expensive. I paid that for a moto razr and a hell of alot more for a Sony Ericcson W810 which had a 2 hour battery life when playing MP3's. If $99. is too much look for a refurb at $49.

I beg to differ.

Top 12 reasons for jailbreak.

http://thebigboss.org/why-jailbreak-iphone/

I think the price for the iPhone 3G is very reasonable right now as well. Hard to believe but there are phones more expensive than the basic iPhone 3G right now and don't do nearly as half as it does.

Not as for macbooks and macs. That's another story.

 

[Corny]

So don't tell me this is the best product ever, and that you are so lucky with it if you have the urge to jailbreak it.
Then you might be using the platform, but you are not using the Apple iPhone any more.

This is a question of philosophy, and what you do is not apple's philosophy - though that of many other brands such as - for example the Android phones.

 

[Corny]

It's more apple politics and blind apple fanbois that I dislike.

 

[navinator]

Gotta say that Corny's last post says it all, in my opinion. I prefer Macs over Windows PCs, have owned many iPods and now have an iPhone, but cannot stand when people are so blinded that they think everything else is inferior to something from Apple (same goes with Microsoft fanboys and Sony fanboys, etc). For me, I like Apple because I like the way their products work - OS X works better for what I want to do; the iPhone offers the features that I want/need; I've always found iPods easy and intuitive to use - of course, I must admit I've never owned another brand of portable music player, but I haven't seen the point when the iPods did exactly what I wanted them to do. I use Windows regularly and aside from a few little things I find it every bit as useful as OS X - if Microsoft upped their game enough and I found that Windows did what I wanted to do better then OS X, then I would switch to Windows. If, for example, I found a phone that I preferred over my iPhone, and offered a nice incentive feature that my iPhone lacked that I needed, then I would ditch the iPhone. As it is, it's just mere coincidence that most of my stuff happens to all be from the one company - it just so happens that Apple produced the devices that are most convenient for me at this moment in time. Despite this, Apple definitely has its flaws, like every company, and as I said I wouldn't hesitate in finding alternatives if I started feeling that my stuff was starting to fail me. Apple fanboys seem to think that everything else is immediately inferior without even giving it a chance, without realising that ultimately Apple is charging an arm and a leg more for hardware that costs barely anything on a comparable PC or phone.

Well, that's my 2 cents

As far as I know the new iTunes DID ship with snow leopard, and half of the people here is mainly talking about applications (rather than the OS) anyway .. right?

Snow Leopard shipped with iTunes 8.2, which is the old version. iTunes 9 came out over a week and a half later with the new iPods.

 

[DeMazy]

With some people, their choice of computer is like a religion or something.

There is a lot of truth to that statement

but seriously, for me, it's exactly because i don't fall in love with my computers, that i choose open source.

Me, i buy a computer, and six months later, i want something more powerful (though i can't afford it as frequently as i get the urges ) And for me, the operating system doesn't really matter so long as it works and does what i want it to, for the longest time, that was windows, but with the years, it got bloated and slower (to do the same things i did before), and frankly, i hated everything after 98SE. Macintosh didn't appeal to me either because it meant, expensive parts, and limited software selection.

What i like about linux is that it's coded by the same people who are using it. There's an insight there that can't be replicated by market studies and focus groups. there's an endless selection of software for every need, and the system itself is extremely customizable (different desktop environments, filesystem types, etc.). Most users contribute something, from bug reports, coding features that are missing from preexisting software, to writing whole new software. The bugs themselves are ironed out extremely fast, no waiting around for microsoft or apple to figure out what's wrong and then waiting for them to get off their asses and fix it...And i don't have to pay a god damn penny for software and system that are as good if not better than those you would spend hundreds on.

 

[sheep]

A friend of mine is a usability consultant graduating with a PhD in Human Factors and has used every conceivable computer starting with the big Mainframes in University. His choice is OSX but in his consulting work, most of his clients are on Windows so he uses Parallels to run XP Pro and Office to be sure to be 100% compatible with his clients. He created a special partition the other day for use with only one client and one job. Below is a copy of an email he sent me.

"When I switched to this disk, it did a pile of updates, restarted and then it did a major, Windows XP Pro SP3, which took well over an hour to install. After a restart, there were 57 more updates. When that was done it had taken over six hours. Starting it today turned up 14 more updates. That makes 71 updates AFTER the major SP3 system update. Imagine the work hours wasted in North America.

What a piece of shit."

 

[Corny]

Funny .. recently I did re-install Win XP Pro on one of my machines. The install DID take ~1 an hour, then there was like 300MB of upgrades .. and that was it. After adding drivers etc, I wasn't occupied more than 2.5 hours .. not sure what your guy is doing
And another thing still just being ignored here. MacOS is just for very very specific hardware. While most other OS are for ALL kinds of hardware or even platforms.

 

[andysayshi]

Microsoft just don't get it with updates, and never have. Even in their Mac software products.

I turned on an old Powerbook yesterday for the first time in 6 months and did a check for updates. One click operation. The OS and 6 applications needed updating. One click, three minutes, all done.

Then I install Microsoft Office for Mac from original install disk. After the install, the Microsoft updater searches online, finds an update, asks for permission, downloads it, asks for permission, installs it, checks for more updates, finds another update, asks for permission, downloads it, asks for permission, looks for another update... you get the idea.

There are 10 updates!! Each one detected, downloaded and installed individually! WTF? Takes an hour, and half a gigabyte of downloads. Why can't the updater recognize "you have version 10.0.0, current version is 10.1.10, I'll download a combo update of 10.1.10"? No, it installs every incremental update, one by one.

 

[DeMazy]

Funny .. recently I did re-install Win XP Pro on one of my machines. The install DID take ~1 an hour, then there was like 300MB of upgrades .. and that was it. After adding drivers etc, I wasn't occupied more than 2.5 hours .. not sure what your guy is doing
And another thing still just being ignored here. MacOS is just for very very specific hardware. While most other OS are for ALL kinds of hardware or even platforms.

Thats pretty much it. When you think about it, Apple and Microsoft are very similar. Microsoft wants to monopolize your software, while Apple hopes to monopolize your hardware. With fanbois on each side trying to defend and justify the hundreds, if not thousands of dollars they already spent.

 

[sheep]

Funny .. recently I did re-install Win XP Pro on one of my machines. The install DID take ~1 an hour, then there was like 300MB of upgrades .. and that was it. After adding drivers etc, I wasn't occupied more than 2.5 hours .. not sure what your guy is doing
And another thing still just being ignored here. MacOS is just for very very specific hardware. While most other OS are for ALL kinds of hardware or even platforms.

Remember this was updating Office as well. The system takes over the computer so you can't be doing other things while it is updating and heaven forbid if you leave it to update itself sure enough it'll ask a question so you better be close by. He ran Drive Cleanup and got back 38KB
Total time: 8 hours.
Not sure what you were doing corny. He had his antivirus shut off otherwise he would have been into day 2. Isn't there such a thing as a combo updater like Mac has?

PC's used to be called IBM's and compatibles. Are all PC's different now? If so how can they be compatible?

 

[DeMazy]