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best friend love PLEASE READ (sorry for length)

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Honestly for the longest while I have been wondering whether or not I should post here. But after seeing some of the other posts on the same subject and some of the good advice given, I just hope the same can be done for me.

Well, me and my best friend have known each other since grade 12, that would be around four years in total. When I first met him I just thought he was a really cool guy. I guess he thought the same thing because he started calling me often and we began to hang all the time. Before I knew it, we were pretty much best friends. Like sleepovers were very common. He used to get me to just massage his shoulders and such which I was very happy to do. I mean I was somewhat attracted to him but I thought that nothing would happen because he was fully straight. Then all of a sudden we stopped talking. For no particular reason. This went on for a good year. And then eventually we sort of found our way back to each other. This was about the time that I realized that I loved him. He is a very shy guy and doesn’t open up to anyone. Except me. Ever since that first one year hiatus we were very off an on. Like getting mad at each other and blocking the other off msn but somehow we knew we would always end up talking to each other again. Whenever we were fighting all of our friends would be like “oh you know you too will be talking very soon.” Many times I’ve heard that we fight like an old married couple. And people used to joke that we were boyfriends and I think that scared him and that’s why he kept running from me. Every time we stopped talking he was the one who ran first with no explanation and would always apologize for running but never with an explanation about why he did.

Well when we are best friends, you cant find any two people that are tighter. We would tell each other that we are the best friends we ever had. And in times of trouble we always tell each other that we have been through so much and we can get through anything. He has only had one girlfriend in his life and that really didn’t go to well for him. I know that he hasn’t seen a girl naked or any private part for a matter of fact. Kissing has been his limit. The thing is he is a really attractive guy that can get any girl he wants but for some reason he hasn’t had a lot of success. I can name 10 girls off the top of my head that think he is achingly sexy. Well we know each other better than we know ourselves. Even in times when we didn’t talk we have had such a connection.

A while ago I was on his computer and I noticed there was some gay porn on it. I felt something in the pit of my stomach but I always suspected that he was. This just confirmed it for me. He saw the same stuff on my computer one day and I know for a fact he saw it. I seriously felt my life crashed once he saw it. but he never said anything and just played it off. I was distant the whole day and he kept asking what was bothering me. Eventually his attitude made me cheer up.

I love him so much honestly I will do anything for him. And I just had to know. So one day I confronted him about what I saw on his computer and he wasn’t shy about it. at least when talking to me. He said that he considers himself straight but has had thoughts. I am bi myself which I told him and he said that that was cool. He said “both of us being honest just strengthened our relationship.” He asked if I would treat him different I told him of course not. Later in the conversation he admitted that later on he would probably want to start doing things with men. He told me “who knows, I’m keeping my mind open” he even asked me where which gay porn sites I go to and I gave him my password which I really never thought I would do.

Ever since then our relationship has been much stronger. I really love him and I really don’t know what to do next. Thanks for reading…im looking forward to the responses.
 
Re: best friend love PLEASE READ (sorry for length

I believe he is too. He really isn’t comfortable with it at all though. He is just really afraid of what his friends will think of him I believe. The messages stopped a long time ago. It was just shoulders fully clothed. Like he requested it then I think he started to feel uncomfortable. I don’t think I will be able to go back to that at least not now. The thing is I don’t even know what to do. A part of me just wants the physical and to keep our relationship the same way it is. I think that I could have a relationship with him but judging from the past I think that is too big of a step right now. He will probably start to run.
 
Re: best friend love PLEASE READ (sorry for length

Sounds to me as if you two have handled it very well so far....
Too often I read these stories and one guy decides has to go all out and delcare his love for the guy he figures he's in love with. That never turns out well.

So I'm happy to read your story (and you wrote it very well btw)...

How old are you two? Seems as if you should just stay close and good buddies.
Be there for each other. And I know how it is man, young guys have this urge for sex....that's just how we are built... nothing wrong with it, it's the nature of a young man.

If he is as handsome as you say then he may be tempted to go with a girl again, since he's not sure he's gay (and I think he probably is) he may not want to give in to that quite yet.... happens all the time.
And the best thing for you to do if that happens is stay his friend, don't get jealouos..... because if you get upset you will loose him. He will come back to you in the long run, just wait it out. Same if he hooks up with another guy. As tough as it will be for you to see that happen just stay freinds and offer advice... always keep in touch and hide your feelings to him if he is involved with someone else..
I've no doubt he will always come back to you.
My best buddy found attrraction to a girl once.... and man it about killed me. But I became freinds with her and kept my true thoughts to myself. After all, what good would it have done to make a scene and not be there for my buddy to talk to be about all the stuff he was going through with her?

Seems to me you are two mature guys and will eventually end up together. Just remember that the long friendship comes first. And could be you two may not end up as lovers but as life-long best friends. And truth is my friend, that can be even better in the long run.
Nice thread.
I hope you let us know how it turns out. And best of luck to each of you.
A freind...
:D:D(*8*)
 
Re: best friend love PLEASE READ (sorry for length

GG1986 said:
Ever since then our relationship has been much stronger. I really love him and I really don’t know what to do next. Thanks for reading…im looking forward to the responses.

It is perfectly normal for two male friends to love each other.

The question of whether they should fuck is another issue. It's a great way to ruin a friendship.

What should you do next? You both should date and experiment and live your lives. If at some point the two of you want to date each other, you're going to have to decide at that point whether you want to risk losing the friendship.
 
Re: best friend love PLEASE READ (sorry for length

I think you should give him some space for a while so he can figure some stuff out for himself. If he hasn't come to terms with being bi/gay yet, it can be a rough time for him.
Just try not to pressure him and/or excessively try to help.
 
Re: best friend love PLEASE READ (sorry for length

Hey GG,

Welcome to JUB mate! And thanks for posting!!!

Sounds like you've got a great head on your shoulders... and a great friend too. Both of you sound like life long friends to me - the kinds that know even through the squabbles and disagreements that you would always be there for each other. And as time passes those squabbles will become less and less important and the bond more so.

GG, sometimes what can be so hard to understand is that you can love your mate, your best friend with all your heart... hell thats what mates do... thats the bond. But you shouldnt confuse that for lust or convenience... Often we make the mistake of taking the easy road to the determent of ourselves and our futures. Just because you guys are there, you are close and you are both gay or bi doesnt mean you need to go any further.

A relationship too fast too soon has the greatest potential to destroy great lasting friendships. By no means rule out a realtionship at some stage... just not now...not yet. Dont confuse ease for right. Dont misunderstand or under estimate the risks in confessing your feelings.

You need to experience life, make mistakes, screw things up and learn from other relationships before you risk this one. Because the one you have right now is almost irreplaceable.

And when you guys have supported each other, leaned on each other and helped each other through all of this... when you know both the joy and pain that love and partners can bring... when you have perspective... then you can decide whether or not to risk your best friend. Because after all this, you will truly understand what it takes to be best friends... and what it takes to be lovers.

They are one and the same and yet completely different.

Your post shows a pretty awesome guy... and the way you write about your friend he is too. Its worth keeping each other in your lives no matter what it takes. Your ability to recognize in him that its too soon is just another example of how close you guys are... and its something precious. Its something worth protecting... for both of you.
 
Re: best friend love PLEASE READ (sorry for length

You're doing well with your friend. Don't rush! You are both aware of the fact that you like men, at least sometimes. That's big! Now you've shared your password with him, so he's cool going to gay sites. Try massaging his shoulders while he's on a gay porn site, that could lead to some interesting things happening. Maybe you could watch a gay porn together. Give it try!
 
Re: best friend love PLEASE READ (sorry for length

Thank you everyone for the great responses and good advice. I really appreciate it. I actually had no plans of ever telling him my true feelings unless I was 100% sure that he felt the same way. And I can wait however long that takes. Part of me thinks that that day will eventually come. It will come when he stops running from feelings and I stop running from the fear of rejection.

In response to tonyboy, I do believe that he will want to try and get with a girl first. I know him pretty well and I’m sure he would not want to start off the physical part of his life with another guy. I think its going to be something he will have to get used to. If he does get involved with someone else, no matter how much it hurts I’m start enough not to show how jealous I might be. You are right when you say friendship comes first. I strongly believe that from here on out the relationship will become stronger and gain a lot more meaning. I believe as time goes on we will eventually realize what we mean to each other.

I actually have a strong belief that everything will work out in the end. I guess I just needed to here other perspectives to see if my theory was right and that I am not crazy and just waiting for an absolution that I might never get to.

I believe the smartest thing to do now is just to continue with the way things are going. I want it to happen badly but if I have to wait 15 years through other relationships, I am 100% willing to do that. I am sure that I won’t ever push the issue. We are close enough to sense what the other is thinking and feeling, and I think when the time is right, it will present itself.

If something does happen, I believe we will be able to handle it. The key word for me will be slow. I’m not about to screw this up. I have no intention of ever losing him.
 
Re: best friend love PLEASE READ (sorry for length

T I actually had no plans of ever telling him my true feelings unless I was 100% sure that he felt the same way.

You are very wise. Countless have made this mistake and regretted it.



I believe the smartest thing to do now is just to continue with the way things are going. I want it to happen badly but if I have to wait 15 years through other relationships, I am 100% willing to do that.
Again your wisdom is coming through.

You sound lucky to have each other. I wish you the very best!

Keep in touch with us and let us know how things are going! ..|
 
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