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Biologic or Psychologic?

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I've been thinking about this for awhile, and I know research has been done on it, but I want to know your guys opinions.

I can't decide because I have a gay uncle who passed away so the gay apple wouldn't have fallen far from the tree, but I also had quite a few sexual experiences with my friends as a kid, and also do not like my father.

So, what about you guys?
 
I feel that a certain amount of sexuality is biological. Most often, sexual identity forms long before we have any sexual encounters or even know what sex is. The question should also be asked is the brain of a gay person biologically "wired" different from a straight person? Sexual identity and it's origins is a very complex issue.
 
I suspect it's a mix of both. Maybe in some cases all one and in other cases all the other, and it still others a mix. If it were all purely biological then all identical siblings would be gay or straight and we know they are not. If i were purely psychological, i sure as hell wouldn't have "picked" it. :)
 
I don't think there's any one reason why someone is gay. I'm not even sure gayness is something you can pin down with any precision.

There are guys who start out gay and end up straight, and vice versa. And then there's all the bisexuals.

There are cases of identical twins where one is gay and the other isn't.

And what about all the guys in prison who are fucking each other, who never even thought about another guy before they went in?

I doubt very much your uncle has anything to do with it -- you don't share very much of his DNA -- something like 1/8 I think.
 
I think its both, thats what we are finding more and more of in regards to lots of physiologic illnesses (and not saying homosexuality is an illness). But for things like blood pressure, cancer, etc., you can have a genetic predisposition to getting those diseases. IE, if two people are exposed to the same factors, the genes are the causal factor for the progression into disease.

But I think the evidence is fairly clear that there is a biological basis. I would take the view that his uncle being gay has a lot to do with him being gay. Yeah, the DNA is going to be something like 1/8 identical, though if the genes lie along the Y chromosome, then its identical, but its probably not that clear cut. I have been tried to think back through the family to find someone who might have been gay, and have come up empty so far.
 
I wish we could get Sven Bocklandt on JUB to comment. If anyone in LA runs across him or a web-site of his, please ask him to join us if only occasionally. (He's from Belgium if some of our Dutch JUBbers can help.)
 
I've never really thought about it. It's kind of scary to think it's a biological thing though, wouldn't that mean it could be "fixed"?​
 
I think it's ALL in the genes!

I mean DNA is every thing and I'm sure that ALL of us have some kin that we can point too and say, that's the Father's side of the family, the Mother's side of the family or BOTH!
 
there are things about us that aren't determined by our genes, such as our fingerprints, or the speckle patterns on our irises.

ever since the 2nd grade, i've had gay feelings toward other guys. strange that it only started then, that i wasn't gay my whole life.

i wonder if the fact that homosexuality can be found in multiple cases in families really means that it's genetic. could it be that the first one to come out just made it easier for the others to come out, and that's why there are more gay people in that family?
 
I suspect that the genes may control a tendency that our upbringing and experiences can exploit. So if you have the "Gay" gene it is more likely you may end up gay but not inevitable although there may be a chance that it will rear its head again in later life hence the number of married men who "turn" Gay.


I've never really thought about it. It's kind of scary to think it's a biological thing though, wouldn't that mean it could be "fixed"?
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If it's biological Jake that means it can't be fixed because it is in the dna of every cell or rather that it dictated the wiring of your brain. We have shrinks to try and alter learned behaviour.

Personally whatever the cause, I do not want to change and certainly do not want to be changed.
 
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