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..Can't wake up

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Something else wrong with my health.

Why isn't this much of a surprise -_-

I don't really know who to turn to at this point. Can't with counselor since she does appointments, the PE teacher I almost asked about this but decided against it.

Only one other person who might be able to possibly help. Or at least get me to someone who can help.

But I figured why not send an S.O.S. to JUB.

Yesterday went so good but one minor thing that could have potentially ruined it. I slept in til 11 am and missed genetics. I did not freak and panic. I checked by the genetics place but the teacher wasn't there. I was gonna email him. I figured because of the drive and long weekend I was probably over exhausted. But still a bit odd because normally I can wake myself up.

But last night I went to bed around 3 am or so. An improvement since I usually sleep at 5 or later.

I set my alarm for 7 am since pe was at 8.

I wake up this morning at 7:50 and rush to get to class. I am a little late.

But it goes a little farther then that.

Waking up..I feel exhausted. The reason is, I think, because of what happens in my dreams and the fact that I overthink when I'm asleep. Sleeping is supposed to rest my mind.

What I vaugely remember is being in some wierd place and worry about a spider on me and someone brushing a spider off my head. I can vaugely remember some more but not much.

But that's sort of irrelevant. The problem is that I am not waking up even though I set my alarm. But my alarm is set to off when I wake up. I must turn it off without even being awake. But usually I can remember that. Usually I can stay up til 6 and wake up in time the next day for school..

What changed?

Is it that...

Could it be that there is no one to physically wake me. As weak as it sounds..

I might need that. Maybe because I'm such a stubborn little punk and that I overthink everything and don't know when to relax that my mind doesn't either. So that the only way for me to wake when I need to is for someone to physically wake me. To break that distance.

But this is college. I don't even have a roomate. He moved out because he never stayed here much.

Is there really anything I can do about this. This is going to affect my grades if I can't wake up for class.

I need to think of something but I don't know what.
 
Have you had your Iron levels checked? I've had this problem before where I've been horribly tired and I've actually managed to somehow turn my alarm off in my sleep.
Go speak to your local GP about it, even if you only cover your sleeping/exhaustion problem, it will help :)
 
I think one of the ways you can start would be to try and get on a schedule. Get up at the same time every day. Force yourself to get up.

On my off days it's not uncommon for me to get up between 9 and 10. Sometimes even 11. But there are days when I'm working that I get up at 3am! :eek: I'm lucky because I can handle that and make it work. I think you might be a bit different.

If your earliest class is at 8am, I'd start setting your alarm for at least 7am. Even if you only have these classes two days a week, set it for every weekday and get yourself on a schedule. Even if you don't go to bed until 4 or 5 am, get up at 7. You'll be tired as hell all day with only 2 or 3 hours of sleep, but you might find you'll be going to sleep earlier once you start getting up at the same time every day.

Also, take a look at your diet and exercise. Make sure you're eating your fruits and veggies and not just a bunch of college junk food. I know its hard. I survived on pizza, fried foods, macaroni and cheese, beer and liquor while I was in college (well at least my freshmen year since I was living with 3 straight frat boys :lol:).

I'm also a finicky sleeper, and sometimes I'll take a tylenol PM, but I try not to do that too often because I'll wake up feeling groggy more times than not and we can't have that, especially if this bitch has got to go fly.

Another thing you can do if you want is keep a sleep diary. Start writing down when you turned the lights off, what time you fell asleep (what was the time you last looked at the clock), what times did you wake up in the night whether it be for a glass of water, to pee, or just to turn over. If you can remember any dreams write a quick description of those down too... and finally, write down when you wake up. If you ever go see a doctor for insomnia or other sleep related issues he'll most likely ask you to go home and do a sleep diary, so why not have one already started? We do have some medical professionals around JUB, and perhaps they would be interested in seeing this too.

If you have any other questions, post away and I (as well as our other members) would be glad to take a look at them! :)

Good Luck!!! ..|

I have classes at 8 am, 9 am, and 9:30 pm. I suggested to myself that if I'm not showering then having an hour to wake up is fine.

But. One some days I'd wake up horny as a mother fucker and jack off from 30 minutes to 45 minutes. I could still get to class on time though. But things that I had to plan I either did not do and never ended up doing or postponed because of masturbation time. But the problem with that is masturbation I think makes you sleepy. Maybe I should masturbate earlier in the evenings if this is the case..

But sometimes you really can't walk around with a hard on and need some relief >_>"

But I don't think repeating yourself over and over again is necessary. Although it sure as hell feels good.

But it's distracting. That got me late to work sometimes too in the past. But I prefer waking up horny an hour before it's time for class instead of waking up when class in 10 minutes or when class has been over since 2 hours or so x_X

But if I can come up with some kind of schedule then it could possibly work out. Maybe my body just needs to realize the schedule.

Now that I think about it even more with school my body would always wake up 30 minutes or so before school or work began. I was late sometimes at waking up but like I said I had someone to wake me up then. But still my body knew what time to wake up.

Here my body is like "LOLZWTF" since it's waking up at 7, 8, 9, and on weekends 11, 1 pm, 2pm

It's going "Asadfsdafasfd"

There is still reason to be concerned though. How long?

How long will it take for my body to adjust. That's something crucial. If it takes too long then fuck I might already get kicked out of school and then that would be too late. In some ways I am serious about that. If I sleep through my classes or are late to them too much then I will get kicked out. But since now anyways I can't even remember when I wake to turn my alarm off which is unusual it's not something I have total control over.

I could make that work comet. I'm an insomniac :P

For a while I was. I ate in the cafetaria mostly pastas, some pizza, salads, and grape watery soda. But I've been eating out with friends more, missing lunch or dinner, and eating ramen, and now I'm eating in the other cafeteria where you can use your flex dollars or cash. And I have started getting pizzas from there now. But I can now use it at CVS, Port City Java, and Sonic. The other cafeteria is like a mini grocery store too. I have wondered if I should get breakfast one morning in the normal cafeteria and getting it to go and getting a cup and filling it up with milk then pouring it in the fridge. And going for lunch and dinner and at the end of the day having 3 cups of milk in my fridge. Then to go to other cafeteria and buy the breakfast bowls. LOLZ I ALMOST SAID BOWELS. Or if I really wanna go crazy with this I could get a container and fill it with cereal and take that to go. And that would last me a week or so.

What else is a college student supposed to do who has an on campus job where they have less then 5 hours a week -_-

But I need to take advantage of those flex dollars. Even if I do have some money in the bank. Since I'm barely making anything then once the money's gone I can't get it back.

..Erm back on topic.

Yeah I should try to eat more salads or get some lean cuisine tv dinners. Those are damn good and have vegetables. Healthy choice is good too. I used to fucking live off TV dinners growing up. It feels weird not eating them anymore.

I thought about taking medicine once like cough medicine to sleep. But if I take medicine to solve a problem that isn't illness related (On a physical level) then how does that make me any different from people who drink, smoke, and do drugs to solve their problems or sleep.

Plus I suppose it's not healthy to get addicted to something like that.

I just have always had a hard time sleeping. But oddly enough for this dorm life segment I can sleep in my bed. At home I'd sit in my bed or lay there for hours trying to sleep.

But the minute I get on my bed I pretty much am gone. But the problem is that the motivation or reason to get into bed. It's so much easier to just sit in this chair and bitch about my life and problems and lose myself in music I suppose.

Sometimes I will just here and stare at the screen and zone out. For some reason the idea of going into bed at night feels like the end. Not of life or anythign drastic like that. I mean it's the end of this day. Everything I've experienced through this day I see on my side of the line. As soon as I put my body on that bed and fall asleep I cross that line to the next day. And when I try to look back the next day or think about the previous day it's not the same. Because there is distance between the days and the mindset has changed somewhat. Hopefully for the good. And I don't like that. I like to try to deal with things or think of things before I go to bed. But I can do that for hours or so and if I can't or get too frustrated I tell myself that I can't right now and gotta sleep. And the next day what happened the previous night seems sort of blurry. Or if something important happened the previous night then I feel sort of numb and confused.

Eh whatever I look at things differently.

Comet you clever man..

You were somewhat thinking what I was thinking. Last night and in class today I was thinking. "What if I took a picture of my clock and the desk before I went to sleep. Then I could tell if my hand really did set it off because I would have moved it. And then I can take a picture in the morning."

OR BETTER YET!

If I put something like a dab of tooth paste, marinara sauce, or something on the snooze button and the on and off switch.

Then when I wake up if my fingers or the bed or the pajamas I am in have a bit of a red mark then that will prove that I am turning it off in my sleep.

That's what I really need to find out right now. There have been times i admit where something seems like a dream and I feel someone come into my room or I imagine that someone wakes me up but then I think it's just a dream. I've done that in the past but even though it's blurry I can still somewhat remember it. The fact that I can't remember turning off my alarm now means that my memory is fucked up or I'm doing it without realizing it.

A sleep diary?

I can barely remember anything when I wake up. My mind isn't so vivid. All I can remember is something about their being a spider on my head and it being brushed up. And being in some odd town with a train or something. I forgot the people who were there. But in my dreams it felt so clear and vivid. But it felt more like thoughts and ideas more then something visual. But that is my style anyways.

I could attempt something like that. But I'm not sure how well it would go. Suppose it wouldn't hurt too much to try.

Partly another reason why I posted this on JUB. Psychologists ain't cheap and you have to make appointments :P

Oh..you mean noting what I do before I go to sleep..

That's not a bad idea..

I wonder if I do something like a sleep diary if I should make a new thread for that or do this one. Oddly enough I don't really care about being observed. Not sure if I should or not. If it's for my benefit then it's fine.

fallenangel said:
Have you had your Iron levels checked? I've had this problem before where I've been horribly tired and I've actually managed to somehow turn my alarm off in my sleep.
Go speak to your local GP about it, even if you only cover your sleeping/exhaustion problem, it will help

Iron Levels?
I donno what the hell that is. What's a GP?

If Iron levels help. Then I'll try that. I'll look that up. That GP thing as well..

Since they both are unclear to me.
 
You just need to go to sleep at a regular hour---going to sleep at 3am and then not being able to get up at 7am is normal. Turn off your computer, phone, tv etc and close your eyes---even if it takes you a while eventually you will fall asleep. And if you don't then seek medical help--many people have the same problem when they first go away to college--
 
I thought sleep apnia was when you choke in your sleep or can't breathe or something and is generally caused by drinking alot or happens randomly when you get older.

Wait..it affects your thinking too? Wonder if that's it. I can breathe fine. It's just the clenching of the teeth and these thoughts in my head that never seem to cease.

I guess that could be possible. But it seems unlikely. Maybe I should see a doctor down here or something. Course it would have to wait since I can't drive. But then again not sure what the point of thinking about that is if it's not an option. Maybe there is one close by I can walk to.

IT'S NOT FOR ME. Normal for me is being able to sleep for one hour and feeling damn energized. Or sleeping for 3 hours and being able to wake up.

Not being able to wake up by an alarm is freaking abnormal to me.

I'm not sure alley. I just feel that there is so much to do and that I can get alot at night so I try to do alot at night because I don't think I can wake up early enough to do so or there is not enough time in the morning. Nights can seem infinite.

I guess..it wouldn't hurt to try. Maybe for tommorrow night I should try that. But that just seems so damn hard with my personality of constantly thinking and never shutting the hell up. But if it helps.

And life isn't supposed to be easy anyways.

If that fails that I can at least say I tried.

I really don't know who to talk to in the school about this. Possibly the Prescriptive Fitness teacher since he deals with health and fitnessy stuff. I can do it with the counselor but that appointment thing is annoying. And it's somewhat crucial for me to sleep tonight and the nights after that. Seeing as how I want a diploma and everything and to actually pass and succeed.

I really think the philosopher might be able to help. Even though he might not know shit about insomnia or anything. I somewhat feel like I can relate to him. Well to better phrase it he is really the only staff person I know currently and trust. Maybe he's been through it too.

And in some ways I think I'd listen to a philosopher more then anyone. Since I ya know look up to them and aim to surpass them. Something like that.

This is annoying to think about but I will think of a temporarily solution for tonight and then try alley's idea tomorrow.

Damn I wanna sleep right now or get knocked out just so I can shut up -_-
 
..I was eating pizza and figured somethign like that would be easy to put on it.

>_>"

That's not a bad idea. But I think the only place that I can do it on is the other dresser. I need to be able to see it too. I couldn't before because I had a roomate but since that word no longer has meaning to me now I can. Although knowing me I'll probably still be stupid stubborn and turn it off.

What I really need to do now is figure out why I have been turning it off subconsciously, find out why I can't wake up like I used to, and maybe go to bed earlier if possible. I don't know how easy insomnia is easy to beat. I bet a damn lot easier then smoking or drinking though.

But even so.

I think it would benefit me to talk to the philosopher. Although it's not easy for me to even approach someone like him because I think he's so great, wise, and god like that someone like me isn't worthy. But I know he doesn't see things like that. Even if he tells me the same things people here has told me. I am such a stubborn little prick. A philosopher might be the only one in the world I'll listen to right now.

Or more like. The only type of person in the world who can reach me currently.
 
Have your blood work done, you may find you have some abnormalities, and some is lacking in your diet, or need vitimins

My bf had some issue a bit like your and after a physical it was found he had hi-blood pressure that he did not know of. Now on meds he is better.
 
..Oh shit.

Wait..I think I had my blood pressure tested last physical though. Yeah I did and amazingly he said it was normal. I was popping a freaking vein or something and he's like "Your blood level is totally awesome."

But having blood work done wouldn't hurt. God knows what you can find in someone's blood. A bit creepy when you think of it like that though..

Maybe they'll find something else. I already have a physical not too long ago though.

But maybe going to check out what's going on in my head and blood tests wouldn't hurt. Not sure how they'd find out what's going on your head though. Diagnosis that's what it's called. Still donno how they do that.
 
It's sounds like you're normal. You're just not getting enough sleep. Happens to me when I don't sleep enough. Going to bed at 3 or 4am and getting up at 7am is not sustainable long term. The suggestions here are good...

1) alarm clock somewhere that forces you to get out of bed to turn it off. Will help short term.

2) go to bed earlier. If you can't fall asleep at a normal hour (like 11pm) right now, just slowly move it back. Instead of 4, do three... then 2:30, etc.

3) get on schedule.... don't sleep in until 1 or 2pm on the weekends. I know, that's hard at college. And while this step isn't necessary all of the time, it will help.
 
Yay, I'm normal. That's a relief.

Well yeah but I could do it before. Maybe because college life is so much harder I actually NEED more sleep. Becuase if I note the difference it's like this.

Sleeping at 5 am well more like 5:30 am the first night and waking up at 11 am.

Then sleeping at 3 am last night and waking up at 7:50

I think my body is trying to tell me if I don't get around 5 hours then it refuses to wake up. Or maybe it's my mind that's telling me that. Gah body mind shit confuses me.

Maybe I need to get a louder alarm clock. But I don't think that's the problem. The problem is if my body or mind needs the sleep and is already in that state. Ain't nothing in hell gonna wake it up. Well unless my sister comes in my room and has the dogs jump on the bed and turns the lights on and my eyes strain from the light when I wake up -_-

..HEY

That's actually a good idea. Yeah so I went to bed at 6 the other night. Well close to 6. Not last night but the previous night.

So I went to bed at 3 last night.

That means I go to bed at 5 tonight and 4 the next night and then 2. I gotta fill in those gaps.

It really is jock.

But what I've noticed that not oversleeping. Makes you more active and alert during the day and less groggy. So in some ways it's worth it.

Maybe waking up right is just as important if not more important then going to bed on time. I know that oversleeping can be bad. But it really can have an effect on you.

At least I think.
 
Why can't you set up an appointment with a counselor? They'd probably have experience dealing with this sort of thing.

I can sympathize with not having your brain shut off when you want to sleep. That's my problem, but you definitely aren't getting enough sleep if you go to bed and wake up at the times you say you do. Maybe you could do it before, but as you've gotten older, your body's starting to get pissed off about it.
 
Maybe waking up right is just as important if not more important then going to bed on time. I know that oversleeping can be bad. But it really can have an effect on you.

Actually there are several studies that show your alertness upon arousal is dependant upon what stage of sleep you were in when aroused.

And no, you don't have to fill in the gaps. It's about consistency... not inconsistency.
 
I wouldn't be able to do that til next week. I talked to her once but it was more like a chat thing. I looked for the philosopher but couldn't find him :(

You are right about one thing Axalon. It is pissed off at me and making me hurt in other ways which I may or may not discuss on here. Depends on how frequently it happens. Although this is probably about the third time. But at least there is some reason for it this time..

I don't disagree with that jockboy.

I have heard about the REM stages. Wait. Isn't REM a band?

And maybe this is somewhat serious. A friend of mine was really concerned when I told him this and said I really need to do something about it. He said the fact that they have centers and buildings devoted to people getting sleep means it is very important. But I also realize that because I am younger I can hold out a little longer then most people. Because I am me I can have a little more control. I know I'm not invincible. But I have a little more resistance. And it makes a difference. I guess you're right.

Well I'm gonna sleep at 2 tonight. Since I slept at 3 the other night. I really tired my body out today but unfortunately my mind isn't that way. So I'll probably do some studying, clean my dorm, take a shower, then bed. Showers make me sleepy anyways. Then the next night I'll try 1 am.

And my goal will be in bed by no later then 1. I can live off of 6-7 hours. That's what I need anyways.

But I heard you can't regain energy or something. It's if you lose alot of sleep you can't get it back. It's just gone. And the more you stay up and don't rest the more sleep you lose until..

Well I don't know what happens after that. But I am not going to take this lightly anymore. If he is worried about me then it's for a good reason.

I really don't know if I truly have insomnia. I know there are certain levels of that. But it wouldn't hurt to get diagnosed someday. But for now I can at least try to sleep cold turkey XD
 
omg i have the same probelm. no mattter what i do i can't seem to wake up on time. it doesnt matter if i was attending an important event. the difference is that i get from 6to 9 hours of sleep. i also think alot before i sleep and have weird dreams. its like the dream won't let me wake up because i have to finish it.
 
It sucks waking up and not having the dream finished doesn't it.

It throws off the day sometimes.

Anyways.

This has re-occured 3 times now.

It's a problem.

And there are many reasons behind it.

But it's pointless to keep this thead alive
 
Adderall... I was really against it at frist... but you have NO IDEA how much it helps me wake up and focus.
 
But last night I went to bed around 3 am or so. An improvement since I usually sleep at 5 or later.

I set my alarm for 7 am since pe was at 8.
Could be just me, but getting 2 or 3 hours of sleep is the reason you're tired, not your dreams...
 
Yeah not against it now. But it's hard because now I kinda want it but the stupid idiots outside my door at 3 am or 4 am prevent it. If I was really tired then I could sleep through that. But since I'm sort of convincing my body I need to go to bed it's harder.

But I have two alarms now and they work. Only if I set them though.
 
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