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Celebrity Big Bother. Stupid people being stupid, or racist bullying?

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Celebrity Big Brother is now officially the most complained about TV show in British history. One 'episode' has racked up 14,000 complaints.

The way Essex pig-slag Jade, her stupid boyfriend (how do you get to his age without knowing what an embryo is??), her dog-rough mother and washed up singer Jo (from S-Club) have (racially?) bullied Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty has not only caused ructions in the UK, but also in diplomatic circles around the World...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6269953.stm

Effigies of Channel 4 management have been burnt in the street in Mumbai. Apparently.
 
If imitating Shilpa's voice is racist then the whole household is guilty - as is she for imitating theirs.

From what I have seen Jo, Jade, Jack and especially WAG, Danielle are mostly guilty of being ignorant - they seem jealous of Shilpa and unable to accept her culture and beliefs. Shilpa hasn't helped in the matter as her character seems to be one of a very controlling nature.

I think Jack may still be in the embryo stage as he hasn't developed any sort of personality or adult traits - not sure his eyesight has developed fully yet - God help him when he sees Jade for the first time.:eek:

I think the whole situation has been totally blown out of proportion.
 
Oh dear, it looks like I've missed all the fun, because I haven't been watching it.

I wish they'd do a Celebrity Big Brother with some famous people in the house.
 
I hope it costs Jade Goody her career, and spells the end of Big Brother
 
Urgh! the political correctness brigade has gone too far!

Not only has big brother racked up 14000 complaints but I've just read that Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and a government Indian minister have condemned this. How typical of politicians. In India, there have even been reports of protesters burning effigies of Big Brother executives.

But from what I've seen of the programme so far is that the three witches (Jo, Jade and danielle) are just ignorant. What they say shows this. There is a difference between ignorance and racism. If there was no difference then we would ALL be racists.

I think this hysterical reaction may have occurred due to a general mood in Britain trying to make it tolerant, except I think they're trying a bit too hard.
 
Good gawd. They should have Celebrity Big Brother without a prize, and just lock up Jade Goody's whole family in there, then rename it Zoo, and put up signs which says "Don't feed the trolls".
 
If you watch crap TV programmes, then don't be surprised when these programmes, and their participants, are crap.

The "stupid people" here are the people who waste large tracts of their lives watching stupid people in stupid TV prgrammes, and then run up stupid telephone bills complaining about how stupid the programmes and participants are.

Stupid people and their money are soon parted. And don't the makers of these programmes know it.:(
 
Oh dear, it looks like I've missed all the fun, because I haven't been watching it.

I wish they'd do a Celebrity Big Brother with some famous people in the house.

Dirk from the A-Team's in there, you big jessy!
 
There's four guys on that pic of the A-Team; which one is Dirk? :confused:

Yeah, I know I could go to google or wikipedia for the answer, but as a big jessy, lefty, gayboy I simply can't be arsed. :p
 
SEE, im not sure if that was a joke, because of "lefty" being ambiguous; aka jessy.
OR you actually didnt realise I meant "lefty" as in the guy on the left.

and NOW I feel really STUPID !oops!
 
I don't think Jade is being racist, just ignorant. Jade can't be racist because she doesn't know what she is saying, she’s bullying using the first thing that comes to mind and that is the fact that Shilpa is different.

If Shilpa was welsh and Jade was saying "ah, go back and shag some sheep" or something that is offensive to welsh people there wouldn't be this whole global incident because even welsh people would probably find that funny. What im trying to say is that racism is only racism if there is a racist motive behind it, and clearly Jade does not have a racist motive she is just bullying.

Jade is just bullying, while that makes her a bad person and a bully she isn't be racist... AND in her point of view she probably isn't being a bully she is just defending herself, you never know.
 
Trail by media again in the UK. Slow news month January so they have to invent a real hate figure for the people who's daily literature comes from the red tops. The irony is Jade's success is down to the same papers that are trying to destroy her. Further to that, the only person that was being racist was that vile scouser Danielle. It seems like the whole world have jumped on the "this is racist bullying" bandwagon dispite the people involved, including Shilpa have denied that's what it is. Can anyone say mob mentality?
 
The celebration of ignorance seems to be the main problem here. A recent column on Big Brother and dumbing down:

Howard Jacobson: 'Big Brother' encourages us to embrace a condition far more worrying than racism
The debate as to whether Jade and her super-dumb cohorts are racist is not worth having

The Independent
Published: 20 January 2007

After the Revolution, the Terror. This - the invariable consequence of filling the heads of the uneducated with grandiosity - is what we are seeing on Celebrity Big Brother. In the days when she sweetly knew herself to be pig ignorant, Jade Goody had neither the reason nor the confidence to launch the sort of terrifying tirades to which poor little rich girl Shilpa Shetty has been subjected - never mind with what provocation - this last week.

But then television made Jade a star. Television rewarded her with renown for all the things she didn't know. Television set her up as a sort of Ugly Betty of the reason and the intellect, an example and a promise to everyone who had hitherto felt damned in their own fatuity. You, too, said television, can be rich and famous for being an airhead. Indeed, if we have our way, you won't be rich and famous for being anything else. And now the airhead is a swollen head, and won't be spoken down to by a mistress of Indian subcontinent hauteur. Jade has rights now, whether or not she can spell them, and will shake the planet to its foundations before she forgoes a single one.

Well, and why should she be spoken down to? No reason. Hence the brute little corner of us that cheers her on, at once exhilarated and appalled by the tenacity of her sense of wrong. "Your mother would be proud of you," one of her chums in girly vacuity told her, without a trace of irony, after she had sworn the house down. No doubt about it. Pride has probably been beating in sullen hearts all over the country. The Terror, too, as the aristocrats went helter-skelter to the guillotine, made the children of the Revolution proud.

Channel 4, which has a big stake in cultural mischief, has fomented this unrest. It has been fomenting it ever since Big Brother started, learning as it goes that no one ever made a buck overestimating the sense or sensibility of the British public. But in Jade Goody it has found its Héroïne de la Revolution. How long it has been sitting on the idea of returning Jade to Big Brother as a celebrity - a perfected monster of televisual incestuousness, on telly for having been on telly - is anyone's guess. But this time it made its intentions apparent immediately. Jade and her family were to be royalty - Queen Carnival and her entourage for a day - and the rest of the house were to wait on her hand and foot.

In fact, Shilpa was among those who found exemption from this indignity, which must have been a disappointment to the programme makers, since here was the dream reversal of roles, the very reason, presumably, she had been imported to play opposite Jade in the first place. But the tone had been set. This was to be an incendiary Big Brother, pitting culture against culture, class against class, and in the process flattering its viewers with the Channel 4 philosophy, that what is low is high.

The debate as to whether Jade and her super-dumb cohorts are racist is not worth having, whatever the expressions of sanctimonious outrage on all sides. (The Carphone Warehouse taking the high moral ground and pulling out of sponsoring the programme - there's a laugh after the thousands of hours of mindlessness and bilge it has lent its name to without a qualm.)

Racism - the fear and dislike of people alien to you - is slumberingly integral to all ignorance, so we shouldn't be in the slightest surprised to find it among people who are witless enough to go on such a programme in the first place. Not all racists are stupid, but all stupid people are at some level racists, cowed into resentment and mistrust by the enormity of their incomprehension. In proportion as the world and its ideas are a mystery to you, so the world and its peoples are a threat.

Jade is goaded into wild abuse by the unfamiliar appearance and manners of a woman who's name she cannot get her tongue round, whose value system she cannot comprehend, and who makes her feel cheap. The footballer's bit of fluff - the one who dresses like a toddler and eats with her mouth open - looks blankly into all she doesn't know about the dining customs of people not from Liverpool, and worries where their hands have been.

To confuse this vegetative state with full-blown racism is to dignify it. More than that, it is to confuse a lesser crime with a greater. There are worse things than racism. There is the unapologetic inanity from which the ordinary, daily, unremarkable bigotries and prejudices of the public draw their strength.

We are too soft on stupidity. I am not talking about general knowledge or vocabulary failure. Jade doesn't recognise wedlock - the word, that is, not the state. This is not a sin in itself; words can pass you by. I can never get a purchase on ontological and have to look it up whenever I encounter it. Nor do I mean not having heard of famous people or places. The footballer's fluff thinks Winston Churchill was the first black President of America, having seen a black statue of him near where she lies her empty head. And Jade suspects Rio de Janeiro might be a person. So what? For all I know to the contrary Rio Ferdinand is a region of Ecuador.

They add up, though - the words you can't pronounce, the events you haven't heard of, the ideas with which you are not and do not wish to be acquainted. At some point the accumulation of missing information and curiosity amounts to your not being in the world at all. And it is this condition - a condition that can with far more justice be described as alienation than the ennui of the intellectual - that Big Brother and its host of satellite celebrity magazines have for years been encouraging us to embrace.

There is a vindictiveness in dumbing down. It aims to dethrone not only intelligence but the means by which we rate one thing above another. Dumbing down is an assault upon the very concept of value. Thus Jade, though she wouldn't know what I am talking about, is the child of that nihilism which gave us postmodernism and the Turner prize. A celebrity for being nobody, a belcher and a farter with her own perfume, she is an ironic reference to the unmeaningness of meaning.

Racism? We have far more to worry about than that.
 
I have said it before and I will say it again:

Big Brother should have ended after the first series.

As a one-off experiment, it worked. The people in the house genuinely believed that no-one would watch them, and as a result, they didn't act up to the cameras. And in a bizarre way, that's what made it watchable.

But I remember saying at the time, "this won't work a second time around". And it didn't. And as the years have gone on, they've had to think up even more stange things for the housemates to do, simply to keep the public occupied.

And the fact that they're now doing it with so-called "celebrities" who are principally famous for being famous, just makes it ten times worse.

Rant over. Where do I have to go to hand in my gay-card?
 
Its reality TV and it portrays real life - with all the things that go with it. Go to any pub in the country and you'll hear many of the same comments in everyday conversation.

Governments can issue all kinds of laws, recommendations etc. But the bottom line is that they can't control the way that stupid people think and the prejudices they have.

Anger and hostility to many minorities and other races is not always aimed at the person on the receiving end, it is just that many people project their anger about other issues on to them.
 
My impression is that these people don't feel the need for any kind of self-censoring of their real thoughts. I think they probably really are racist and feel, for whatever reason, they can get away with saying it - just like they would in their own living room.

It shows we have a long ways to go in really changing people's attitudes: are you listening Isaiah Washington?
 
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