Comics!

[GL]

Oh! I'm game. Let's see... how about "What Are You Reading Now?"

Right now I'm reading Batman, Blue Beetle, Detective Comics, Green Lantern, Green Lantern: Ion, Green Lantern Corps is about to begin and I just added Wonder Woman to my list. I'm also reading Astonishing X-Men and Squadron Supreme. I want to get back onto Amazing Spider-Man, but its been some time and I'm just looking for a jumping on point. The same goes for the New Avengers. I got my hands on the trades for Avengers: Disassembled and the New Avengers: Breakout. I also got Moon Knight as I was curious to see what they would do with him.

 

[luminum]

Marvel is also supposed to be making these comics based on eastern myths only reinvented using x-men stories, like Peach Boy using Xavier as the monk and Scott as the Peach Boy with one eye.

I hadn't heard about mythos.

Right now, I read Astonishing X-Men, Uncanny X-Men (god, I love Cannonball's new costume...), X-factor is refreshingly different, X-Men, New X-Men (I want to see where all of this death is going and I'm fanboying over Anole and hope he gets more face time), Ultimate X-Men, Ultimate Spiderman, Teen Titans, and Young Avengers (because of Billie and Teddy ).

I really want to see more done with the Cuckoos. They're icnredibly intriguing and after the hints being dropped about being Weapon XIII, I mean, come on!

Actually, what I'm really hoping is that New X-Men will come through and really establish these new mutants into the X-men universe. Right now, I feel like they're not being taken seriously as characters and that they'll never be used for anything else. I want to see the students excelling and becoming cohesive fighters and really workign together to solve a menace at hand. They're all fragmented now and I don't get that feel like the original New Mutants. They have good characters, but they're stuck in this X-Men Jr. type thing.

And please, can we get a reducteion in the Wolverine? He's everywhere and everyone love shim, but let's try to make some other outstanding characters into icons, too. Scott, Beast, Jean (even though she's dead), Emma, Kitty, Colossus, Storm, Rogue and Gambit, should all be as recognizeable as Wolverine, here. Make them shine.

Plus, I want to see more about the depowered mutants. Don't let them fade into obscurity...

Oh, btw, can anyone explain the following to me:

Infinite Crisis
This '52' thing I've been seeing?

 

[okstatecowboy]

I'll chime in here...

My current pull list includes

DC
52, JSA Classified, Blue Beetle, Green Lantern, Green Lantern Corps, JSA, JLA, Wonder Woman, Secret Six, ShadowPact, the new Atom, Firestorm, Teen Titans, Checkmate (altho I'm probably dropping it soon), Fables, Ion.

Marvel
Ultimate Spiderman, Ultimate Fantastic Four, Ultimate XMen, Xmen, Astonishing Xmen, Uncanny XMen, XFactor, New XMen (on occasion), Avengers, Young Avengers, Spiderwoman, AMazing Spiderman, Civil War, Annihilation group of minis, Squadron Supreme.

Independents
Anthem, any Nightmare on Elm Street limiteds that come out.

mikey
-no wonder I never have any money....

 

[okstatecowboy]

Oh, btw, can anyone explain the following to me:

Infinite Crisis
This '52' thing I've been seeing?

Allow me to try.

Infinite Crisis: Twenty years ago, we had Infinite Crisis on Multiple Earths. Geoff Johns, among others, were brought in to provide a follow up. The past few years have seen the DC universe growing darker and some continuity flaws. Alexander Luthor, Superboy Prime, and Earth 2 Superman and his Lois Lane were stuck in a "bubble" that allowed them to watch the current earth and its heros. Superboy Prime began punching the walls of the bubble, causing continuity changes in the current earth. Alexander took advantage of this and set some things into motion. Basically, Alex caused the rift between the holy trio (batman, superman, and ww). He pretended to be Lex Luthor and convinced the villians to join his society. The bubble finally broke... those trapped in teh bubble emerged into the current earth. Alex set his plans into motion, brought back the multiverse. The current Superboy (Conner Kent) died to bring the earths back into one. Earth 2 Superman and his Lois also died. The speed force that powered Flash and Kid Flash is gone, and they vanished and lost their powers. Jay from the JSA is the only Flash left at the moment. The Joker was pissed that Alex didn't invite him to join the society and killed him. Everyone now remembers the multiverse and the losses from that big crisis, as well as the losses from the new crisis. At the end of the series, WW, Sperman, and Batman (along with Nightwing) were left battered and went off in search of who they were and what it meant to be a hero. This set the stage for...

52: this weekly series takes up a few hours after Infinite Crisis ended. A year will pass without WW, Batman, and Superman. This series explains everything that has occurred prior to the dramatic One Year Later changes seen in the regular titles. 52 will introduce a number of new heroes (including the lesbian Batwoman in issue 11) and will explain some of the changes we're seeing in the regular titles. The current issue just brought back some of the heroes that went into space with Donna Troy... very interesting aftermath for hawkgirl and a few others. It also brings Ralph Digby back into the realm of comics (he's been on the back burner since Identity Crisis and the death of his wife Sue). The Question is also playing a large role in the series, as well as Steel.

Hope this helps!
mikey

 

[GL]

OK, Mikey? Can I be honest here? You have just turned me on.

I forgot to add that I am also reading Civil War and picked up Civil War: Front Line as well. I would love to get back into X-Men but have been away from it for so long that I'm not really sure where to begin. At least with Astonishing I was able to get into it half way. Truth be told, it was Brijan who recommended it and at that time Marvel had just released the trade with the first 6 issues and I picked up the back issues from there.

 

[luminum]

OK, Mikey? Can I be honest here? You have just turned me on.

I forgot to add that I am also reading Civil War and picked up Civil War: Front Line as well. I would love to get back into X-Men but have been away from it for so long that I'm not really sure where to begin. At least with Astonishing I was able to get into it half way. Truth be told, it was Brijan who recommended it and at that time Marvel had just released the trade with the first 6 issues and I picked up the back issues from there.

Tell em what youw ant to know and I'll try to fill you in as best you can. ::wags tail:: Pleeeaaasseee???

 

[yuty]

I haven't read X-Men that much (minus Astonishing X-Men) because of the Devils called Milligan and Chuck Austen.

Claramont's writing also makes me vomit....

 

[okstatecowboy]

OK, Mikey? Can I be honest here? You have just turned me on.

I forgot to add that I am also reading Civil War and picked up Civil War: Front Line as well. I would love to get back into X-Men but have been away from it for so long that I'm not really sure where to begin. At least with Astonishing I was able to get into it half way. Truth be told, it was Brijan who recommended it and at that time Marvel had just released the trade with the first 6 issues and I picked up the back issues from there.

I decided against Front Line; the previews made it sound like a fringe story (altho I understand some important details are being revealed there). Guess I'll pick up the trade.

What characters would you like to start your XMen history lesson with? Between Luminum and me, we ought to be able to bring you to multiple orgasms!

mikey

 

[yuty]

It's scenes like this that makes me question if Magneto is not a villain but a rather a hero:

 

[GL]

Tell em what youw ant to know and I'll try to fill you in as best you can. ::wags tail:: Pleeeaaasseee???

What characters would you like to start your XMen history lesson with? Between Luminum and me, we ought to be able to bring you to multiple orgasms!

LOL! I'll begin compiling a list.

 

[GL]

It's scenes like this that makes me question if Magneto is not a villain but a rather a hero:

It is without a doubt, a powerful scene. But I don't think Magneto can be considered a hero, nor do I think he's an outright villain. He's right smack dab in the middle. A very grey area as it were. He has an agenda of his own and is diligent in his pursuit. I think this is what makes him so damn interesting.

 

[Marvels]

Wow, so this is what happens when I eat my own words, hehehe. Awesome.

From what I hear, the next Mythos issue won't be X-Men, but will be the origin of Bruce banner. If Jenkins is going to write again then maybe I'll give it a shot.

My pull list: The Punisher MAX, Astonishing X-Men, New X-Men, NEXTWAVE, Civil War, Ultimate Fantastic Four, New Avengers, X-Factor, Young Avengers, Daredevil, Amazing Spider-Man.

 

[luminum]

I just read Spiderman Civil War and I'm absolutely heartbroken. I hate you, Tony Stark. Things have not changed. You're only allowing things to change, you bastard! Don't cave into them! Don't give into the fear!

Is it just me or is Marvel really depressing right now? Characters in Marvel just take one blow after another....kick after kick. New X-Men was probably the most uplifting title I've ever read and after Jean died, every title is now compeletely depressing and unfair.

 

[yuty]

Yep. Even the color tones are depressing. Brown, green, black, and deep blue.

But I bet the Civil War will do what Infinite Crisis did to DC. Make things more livelier.

 

[GL]

I just read Spiderman Civil War and I'm absolutely heartbroken. I hate you, Tony Stark. Things have not changed. You're only allowing things to change, you bastard! Don't cave into them! Don't give into the fear!

Is it just me or is Marvel really depressing right now? Characters in Marvel just take one blow after another....kick after kick. New X-Men was probably the most uplifting title I've ever read and after Jean died, every title is now compeletely depressing and unfair.

Right now, I think the majority of the industry is in a dark period. The same can be seen in DC. I think this is one reason I so very much loved Green Lantern Corps: Recharge. They were rebuilding and all these new, disparate recruits had to work together.

 

[Marvels]

I'm Pro-Registration, by the way.

It's not giving in to fear, it's making sure that the world has a unified taskforce against threats.

I hate you, Captain America.

 

[GL]

I'm Pro-Registration, by the way.

It's not giving in to fear, it's making sure that the world has a unified taskforce against threats.

I hate you, Captain America.

Nooo!

I'm against registration myself.

 

[luminum]

Against. Why should superheroes be forced to sacrifice their freedom for the good they do? The legislationw as passed out of fear and misdirected anger. They blame heroes for this, when it had nothing to do witht hem and as Stark says, "It doesn't matter. We may not be responsible, but we are the same super powers. We are the cousins."

The legislation has been pushed hurridly and I don't see how punishing heroes and endangering their loved ones and the normal lives they've tried to build and had to build because they're not all millionaires like Stark who do good is fair or responsible at all.

The public wants accountability from the bad guys, so they register all the good guys and force them to reveal themselves publically. That makes no sense and anyone else who doesn't want their rights taken away will be hunted down publically and arrested as will their innocent loved ones who only know who they are for the crime of...


...doing good anonymously.

Bull. Shit.

Stark pressured and obligated Parker and guilted him, too. Mary Jane and Aunt Mae's rationale made absolutely no sense whatsoever, it was completely forced. I bet you one or more of these heroes' loved ones gets attacked and killed before the government can 'protect' them.

The public is angry at a villain, Nitro, but since they can't do anythign with Nitro, theyw ant to punish every hero out there. It's an inferiority complex and a shitload of misplaced anger. I kept hoping that the heros would say "Fuck you." to the public and leave them to deal with villains themselves sicne they're so damn ungrateful.

Seriously, I've had enough of this in comics. They do so much good. Every hero title out there and they get nothing but disrespect or they get taken for granted. Fuck you, citizens.

It isn't about a unified task force, it's about accountability and it demands accountability from people who can't give it because it's
not their account to give. Tony Stark keeps sayign that because a woman's daughter was killed there, it boosted him into agreeing with this, but I'm sorry, the death of an innocent, no amtter how sad and innocent that victim may be...if the victim's death is unrelated in consequence to the law ebing passed, I don't see it as being usefula t all. It's only vindictive. It's like passing legislation that holds airplane manufacturers accountable for 9/11, the main reason of support being because kids got killed. Stupid sensationalism.

Fuck you, Tony Stark, you alcoholic tool.

.../rant>

Sorry, these are just frustrations I've been harboring since New X-Men and Decimation.

 

[bluedragon4]

Good luck in your endeavour.

For whatever reason, I never got hooked, not even remotely, on comic books!

why does this guy always throw his 2cents in to these threads that he claims he has no intrest in or he doesn't like or he never found attractive?why bother even going on a thread that says things you don't like and feel the need to tell us you don't like it?find a hobby you like and start a thread so we can see you have something positive to say.

 

[Marvels]

From what the court said on The Road to Civil War, superhero families will be assigned to programs not different from the Witness relocation ones. Besides, they aren't going to reveal who they are to the world - - that would be irresponsible; only to S.H.I.E.L.D. and high-level Government employees (or so I've read).

Besides, if superheroes are registered from birth; trained to do what's right from the get-go, then in time they could theoretically remove every possible threat of a rising supercriminal. They could prevent tragedies like the kid from Ultimate X-Men who unknowingly kills everyone in a radius from happening.

Yes, I realize that Quentin Quire poses as the ultimate objection to this theorem - - which is why the Government should be allowed to automatically take counter-measures should a rogue hero manifest by using the data registered on their version of CODIS.

And I don't see how registration will have them give up their freedom. It's not like S.H.I.E.L.D. will tell them who to save and who not to - - they are STILL heroes, they can stop a mugger as much as they could stop an alien invasion. They just get better training, a salary, and the backing of their own Government - - which I will never see as cons.

Superheroes WERE accountable for the Stamford Disaster. The New Warriors knew that they were out of their league, but still went in guns ablazing, just for ratings. In a very, very public place may I add. If they had the Government's backing, of they were trained like army men and real soldiers, then they WOULD have found a way to neutralize them efficiently, and without collateral damage (I'm testing hypothesis contrary to fact, I know).

Which reminds me - - do you think our perspectives on the registration are affected by our status and backgrounds?

P.S. I love Cap to bits. He's a bad-ass. Just not his decision to side against THE LAW.