Do You Know Gay Men Who Are Macho?

[Marco Sensual]

Do you think its possible for gay men to be macho in the same way of straight men are?

The way it looks its like gay men are not macho.Even if gay men are masculine they don t seem to be macho at all.

I know gay men who like watching football on tv.They watch football with straight men.But when the team they like win they will not scream and jump the way straight men does.Gay men will only be happy to look those who win.They will not act over the top like straight men.

Straight macho men will often kick their shoulders for whatever the reasons.They punch each others like that.I don t know why they punch themselves that way.Maybe its manly for them to do that.Gay men don t do things like that.

Straight macho men are very often clumsy and over the top with their manhood.Its like they feel the need to proof they are men.Gay men looks more natural.Gay men don t feel the need to proof they are men because they know that they are men.

My man and me talk about that and we think straight men are not really macho but they only act macho.Maybe for straight men being macho its being a real man.So they act macho.

When we watch a sad movie with straight men and gay men.At the end of the movie when its sad straight men try to not cry.You can barely see tears because they think straight men are not suposed to cry.It take more time for straight men to cry.Gay men always cry easily without thinking of what others will saying.Each time we watch a sad movie straight men are the last to cry.

If straight men could stop with their macho way of thinking like.Men can t cry,men can t be afraid,men can t be weak,men can t like romantic comedy ect...It would be better.

Gay men don t have that problem because they know they are men.Gay men are able to admit that they cry,be afraid or like romantic comedy without be ashamed.

Straight macho men can t admit that because of their macho things.

Straight men and gay men are very different.

Straight men seems more closed and gay seems more open.

Not all straight men are macho but a lot of them are.

Gay men don t seems macho at all.

 

[quasar]

Oh, this one's gonna be fun!!

 

[Jory]

Yes! yes I do.

 

[GoodbyeSobriety]

Things are not so black and white. Men come in all shapes and sizes, as well as personality.

Being gay is just the sexual identity, which has nothing to do with someone's character.

How do you know these "straight" guys that "don't cry in movies" and "seem more closed" are in fact straight? You don't...

 

[cynicus]

You are right. All soccer players are pansies. Now go to your room and listen to some music or do something else to amuse yourself.

 

[ThePrince85]

Wow...I'm not trying to be an ass, but...here are my favorite excerpts from that post.

"But when the team they like win they will not scream and jump the way straight men does.Gay men will only be happy to look those who win."

"Straight macho men will often kick their shoulders for whatever the reasons."

"If straight men could stop with their macho way of thinking like.Men can t cry,men can t be afraid,men can t be weak,men can t like romantic comedy ect...It would be better."

"Straight macho men can t admit that because of their macho things."

Um? I really have no idea what to say...Either you're really tweaked or not the best at typing. Anyways...I think you're trying to say that 'macho' men that have sex with dudes act 'macho' to compensate for their own homosexuality, because they're not able to admit it to themselves that they are gay. It's a shame really.

Oh, also....I usually try to avoid "kick my shoulders for whatever the reasons" on a daily basis.

 

[Marbas]

Oh, this one's gonna be fun!!

Mind if I join you?

 

[D-Base]

Straight men and gay men are very different.

That's a very good observation

 

[switchboyad]

I think you are sure, more or less, I mean it's true that straight men, act like "macho", ( macho men it's really a bad extresion becaouse "macho" is a spanich word and mean a man who is so man, i mean the man who smell like a man, bad i guess, the man who dont cry, who dont feel weakness, and all what you said, the plural is "machos men" singular "macho man") but if you know straight men, you'll know that they only act when other straight men are in front of them, because alone with one, like me, my straight friends cry at all.like i cry watching, the notebook or a walk to remenber. It's true that straight men and gay men are different because gay men are different than gay men a straight men are different than straight men.....

everyone is different, than everyone!!!! No matters about Sexuality!

 

[jonreese]

I'm from the maritimes.
I barely know any gay men, let alone macho ones.

 

[LarsVenice]

It is going to vary a lot from culture to culture. Try playing the game Gay or Eurotrash. In Mexico, I was mistaken for Eurotrash (I suppose), possibly because I was a gay American, but also partly because I am not typical of anything. There are straight men who like to cross dress and there are gay men who are construction workers (I dated one in Texas). I came out in Houston in the 1970s, and I found the men there to be extremely masculine, to the point where they would treat me like a lady - open car doors for me, etc., and these men did not outwardly appear as gay as a straight Frenchman. BTW, you can also play Lesbian or German Lady, but growing up in Texas, I found many of the women to be like German ladies, possibly because so many Germans settled in Texas. Texas is simply a butch state, which is one of the reasons I left.

OTOH, I seldom find anyone in Los Angeles or San Francisco that I think would qualify as macho (although masculine seems like a better word - I associate Macho with Latin culture). California is not the fluffest state, however. I think I might give that award to Louisiana. New Orleans has been called "The city where women are women and so are the men." The reverse would be true of Texas, although it is gradually becoming more civilized (I hope).

 

[josher]

I think there might be someone I'd like to punch in the shoulder (or maybe a bit lower on the anatomy.)

 

[lyconthrope]

ok dude, dont take this the wrong way...but.....are you cracked?!

 

[Marco Sensual]

This is not about masculine men.I know most gay men are masculine.

Some of you take it the wrong way.

This is about gay men don t seems to act like straight men.Gay men express their feeling more easily than straight men.So gay men will cry if they watch a sad movie.Straight men can cry but they will try to not crying.

You have to admit that gay men don t feel the need to be over the top with their manhood.Gay men have a natural manhood.Straight men have an over the top manhood.

The problem with straight macho men is they can t admit that they can t be the most manly.Why its so important for these straight macho men to be considered very man?

These straight macho men don t have to be too much manly to be a man.Too much its too much.They don t have to do that to proof that they are real men.Being manly its enough.No need for them to be too much manly.

Gay men seems to understand that.

Gay men don t act over the top with their manhood.They are manly in a natural way.Gay men are manly.Not over the top manly.

 

[ThePrince85]

haha. I am so entertained right now by this thread.

 

[TriBi]

Someone is such a believer in false stereotypes...or maybe they're a troll...

 

[trawler69]

Any one care to join me? plenty to go round.

 

[KennyD]

This is quite amazing .... IF you are Gay yourself , then you know the Sterotyping that is out in the world ... Now; here you come yourself and compound it by throwing out your own accussations and sterotyping ...
I know several "Gay" guys who are as macho as can be ... two are Bull Riders/Fighters ... another is a Combat Vet from the Marines with three Blue Ribbons and a ton of citations etc .. (Try telling him he is not macho) ....
I personally believe that YOU need to get out more and see the world ... we are all different ..each unto ourself .... ya' just can't lump us all into one certain group like a bag of apples ...
Tighten Up and get real !!

 

[MadeUpName27]

If I read the original question correctly and if I am also not confused by either the follow-up question or the possible language barrier and if after all of that I have somehow managed to follow along with this rather contradictory and convoluted theory of masculinity -vs- machismo and the possibility of variations being based upon perceptions of sexual orientation:
Sorry, but I haven't got a fucking clue.


Can somebody please pass the popcorn???

 

[RationalLunacy]

Personally, I think that the person who started this thread has been listening to too much Village People.