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Gay Oriented Suspense Thriller....

DamienSage

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If you're a fan of hyper stylish 70's and 80's suspense and horror flicks then you'll love Dead On Delivery.

My partner and I made it over the course of a few weekends on a very thin shoestring budget. I hope you like it. Leave me some feedback here or there if you do!

Once again, just a young gay filmmaker trying to make a name for himself!

Regards,

DS
 
I Liked It! I love suspense movies :) The area that y'all filmed the movie at looks familiar. ;) Great Short Film I think y'all should submit it to LOGO (The Click List: Best in Short Film)!
 
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it :D

It was filmed in Raleigh NC. I think really all apartment complexes run together after a while ;)

I will certainly look into LOGO then, trying to enter it in as much as possible.
 
Hmm... where do I start?

Well, as a film student studying writing right now, and having seen many movies, I think I can give you some good feedback on your film. Depending on how much you want me to say, I'm learning to do readers reports right now, which are essentially feedback sheets for scripts (in this case, your film).

Okay, first thing's first. A 27 short film is pretty long; if you're going to be submitting into festivals or what not, the chances they're going to be played are extremely small. Five minutes and under for a short film will likely be shown during festivals, simply because no one's going to sit through and watch a 27 minute movie. It's just the way things are.

Second, I realize your budget was miniscule, as most independent films are. But that doesn't necessarily mean you can't make a good story out of what you have. Here's what I mean:

The protagonist. We see him driving home (okay). We see him taking a shower (oookay). We see him reading a book in bed (ooookkkaayy...). Why? These shots feel like filler to the rest of your movie. They don't build his character in any way. If he didn't take showers, that would be way more interesting. And when we finally find out his name, it's in a dream, spoken by some voice? What?!

There were a few things I did like. When he walks by that tower of VHS tapes in his house (I thought they were shoeboxes at first, haha), I thought that was very insightful into his character -- it made him different. But then nothing else really happened with him, and when he died, I didn't give a crap one way or another, nor did I care whether about his boyfriend/partner, simply because he was in all of two scenes, and whose character was completely flat and undeveloped.

Logically, if you were being chased around by someone in the street (at night), what would you do after getting home? Why, grab a knife and hide in the closet of course! Uh... I would probably phone the cops and tell them that some maniac is after me. John's idiot logic made me unsympathetic to him even more.

One of the pitfalls of horror movies is the lack of character development (going back to that now). I've already touched on John and his bf, but having a killer who looks like he just... kills, doesn't work for me. What's his story? Why is he killing this guy? Is it because John is ordering tapes off the Internet? Does he want John to switch to DVD's? What the hell is going on? And at the end, with the plane leaving, you're saying the killer has left the city (possibly country). Where the f- is he going? Throughout the movie, I really, really, wanted the killer's intention to be revealed, but unfortunately, it wasn't, and that kinda just made me dismiss this as yet another badly thought-out, indie horror flick.

Though I know you wanted your film to be like those of the '70's and '80's era, the music made it seem very dated. I know it's hard to find music to go along with a film (I write my own!) because it costs more or whatnot, but remaining modern is key. A movie like Grindhouse (2007), paying homage to drive-in's decades ago, had music that was contemporary, and it worked extremely well. My suggestion: lose the synthesizer stuff.

Lastly, watch the cliches, man! Having one of the guys say, "NOOOO!" made me laugh out loud. Then again, I was laughing a lot through the whole thing. Sorry.

My notes are not supposed to be mean in anyway, and hopefully you're not offended or anything. The key things you need to work on are character development (in any genre... even horror!). Once you make the audience care about your characters, they'll respond better to their actions. With changes and going through (multiple) drafts of a scrit before you shoot, your films will definitely be better.

Good luck.


~~Aaron C.
 
Ok, first let me say thanks for taking the time to do such a lengthy surface scraping of my work. I commend you for taking more time to write the review than you did to watch the film, least it got some neurons firing.

Second let me say as far as your review goes the old phrase "Those that can't do, teach" comes to mind.

Next I'll get to the nitty gritty of it all. First off, we didn't have a miniscule budget, we had NO budget. Zero dollars were harmed during the making of this film. AND it was done in five half-weekends, in January/February in the freezing cold, crummy weather.

Now, I'm not gonna sit here and say that the film doesn't have flaws. It does have them, lots of em. I'd love to go back and do some redubbing or dialogue rerecording and umpteen other things, but we had a deadline to meet, so what's done is done. I broke a toe while making the film and all involved caught bronchitis during production. And not to mention 3/4 of the movie was filmed in broad daylight! I could go on about the problems during production but I won't.

What I will go into is how much of the point you missed. First the movie is one big glaring cliché ON PURPOSE! Not quite a parody, but a winking over the top acknowledgement of the staples of the horror genre. It's style over substance all the way. Watch an epsiode of Miami Vice or the movie Manhunter sometime and you'll see what I was going for. Well, maybe YOU wouldn't.

The film opens with our protagonist driving home, checking his mail' getting a package, walking past a pile of movies, watching the movie he got in the package, doing homework, working out, taking a shower, reading, ordering another movie, reading, then going to bed. The next day he gets up and does the same thing, same thing the day after. He's a lost soul, adrift in his own meaningless life. Caught in a vicious cycle. Hell the treadmill he runs on is a not so subtle metaphor for his vapid existence. However in the midst of his soulless life he opens a window into his bland little world, buying the movies he loves so much. The killer sells A SINGULAR TAPE, which you see clearly, he tracks down the buyer, watches the buyer, learns they're every move, kills them and goes back to his life. The killer also, obviously is a man of means, as he is able to fly where he wants, rent cars and rooms and take so much time to endulge in his sadistic hobby.

Also, does the protagonists boyfriend even exist or is he a figment of an obviously warped imagination? Or is he too a warped, bland, individual trying to find love with another of his own kind? That's up to the viewers imagination, just like the enigma surrounding the killer himself. You aren't supposed to care about John or his man, you're just a fly on the wall witnessing the action of a rich, bored, sadistic man.

In the end there is a ton of subtext and "in" material in the film to back up my main point, making a taut, visually grandiose cliché. John is cardboard' so is Todd, they are there to perpetuate a horror stereotype. But John was more thought out than any normal horror flick character, because there are real, sad souls out there who live like him.

The clothes, the synthesizer score, the colors, the pacing all of it is geared to be straight out of 1986. Unlike Grindhouse, which I admire greatly, this was supposed to be a satirical wink at the genre, not an all out parody of it. The jokes are there if you have half a mind to look. John wears Red in the beginning, to let you know he's dead meat. He wears white in the end, cause it looks best covered in blood. He does the things no one would do in reality because it isn't reality he lives in. He has the mind of a movie character, because to him he is a movie character. The whole film is a sly, subtle slap in the face to tradtional horror, pulsing with undertones that only skimmers or fans of current "fluffy" cinema would miss.

Let me give you a camera, take away all your money, shove you out into a heavy populated apartment complex, in broad daylight, over a couple of weekends and see you spew out something an eigth as inventive. And I'm not just talking story wise, I'm talking technical, performance and subtext wise,. I can almost garauntee it will be a mound of humorless, soulless, cardboard dreck, that looks and sounds like everyone and everything else that's out there today.

When I have more time, more money, more than a two man crew and everything I could possibly need to make a film proper you'll get a story so epic and thought provoking your head will spin. Right now, this is the best I can do.

Oh, and I've had no problems with the length of the film or the festivals so far, but thanks for your concern. And Sean S. Cunninham of Friday the 13th fame and Mike Hodges who directed Murder by Numbers loved the film, how are you doing?

Finally, I just want to say, none of what I said was meant to be offensive or mean. Negative criticism can be positive and insightful, but when it's thoughtless and spiteful I get testy. I defend to the death your right to say what you want though, now I've said my peace. Thanks for your time.
 
Okay. The thriller/horror genre is probably my least favourite genre, so catching all of your so-called satircal jabs would be a little hard for me. I didn't realize that your film was intended to be a satire, so I guess I actually took it seriously. That didn't come clear enough, at least for me. If you had intended for your film to be humorous, then that was accomplished (since I laughed pretty much through the whole thing).

Thanks for explaining. I still would've believed that because of the rows of tapes in the house, that John was a frequent customer, buying them over the Internet. It's like having a crap load of paintings in your house and then going to an art show. Why would I think that would be your first time buying a painting? I just thought he had been doing it for a while, which, according to you, isn't the case.

I never questioned the boyfriend at all. I just thought he was alive the whole time because nothing made me question his existance.


Let me give you a camera, take away all your money, shove you out into a heavy populated apartment complex, in broad daylight, over a couple of weekends and see you spew out something an eigth as inventive. And I'm not just talking story wise, I'm talking technical, performance and subtext wise,. I can almost garauntee it will be a mound of humorless, soulless, cardboard dreck, that looks and sounds like everyone and everything else that's out there today.

Not only is modesty not a value of yours, but you're also putting down other people as well. And sure, probably some people would have some dry films, but there are a lot of creative people in the world. I have about five short scripts right now, about three of which take place in one location and could probably be filmed in a few hours. In fact, we're workshopping scripts now, which will be produced and filmed in a few months. I also made a short documentary (which in some ways, can be harder to do than a film) in two weekends -- and that includes learning about the camera and how it works.

I completely understand that you had no budget for this project and for nothing, yeah, this does seem alright. If I misunderstood your intention for this movie, then just say so, but there's no need to talk down, just because I didn't see things exactly like you did.

"The jokes are there if you have half a mind to look." Thanks. I don't know how that's not supposed to be mean. :roll:
 
Your critique of my work was just as mean spirited, I wouldn't have attacked back so heartily if you had shown a degree of tact. You're not the only one who came across as pretentious and rude. If you had pointed out what you found wrong in a less spiteful and distasteful manner I would have responded in a much more polite fashion. You put me down as much as I did you.

If you're not a fan of the horror genre, then perhaps you shouldn't have reviewed said horror film. I also never said it was his first time buying off the internet, in fact I said he purchased a tape from the net, got it in the mail and did it again.

I'm glad you laughed, really....

Once again, if you hadn't been so mean spirited first round, I wouldn't have been. You can negatively critique something without attacking it. I didn't post my film here to be lambasted. I posted it to hear back, in a concise adult manner from my fellow homo crowd.
 
Oh and one more thing. I'm quite cynical about the nature and quality of my work. Perhaps I am not modest about it when full on attacked from all sides about it's quality, no, I'll defend it tooth and nail. You don't exactly catch the prize for Mr. Humble either (I checked out your Myspace song page). Taking pride in what one does as an artist is all apart of being an artist. If one doesn't enjoy what they do or what they create, then why do it?

I'm sure your short documentary has it's merits, as do your screenplays and what not. But I'm not trying to craft low budget talkies for the coffee house crowd. I'm trying to push the boundaries of low budget cinematic entertainment. I'm not trying to be Woody Allen or Ingmar Bergman, what I'm doing right now is not about dialogue or a compelling narrative. It's about showing off, technically. Dazzling with visuals that you normally wouldn't see in a no budget picture. Pushing towards the A caliber film with Z caliber means.

This go round I don't mean to offend. Just sometimes fellow artists are so entrenched in their style, in what they like, that they can't see outside of that and they lash out at other artists, especially in their peer range, in an unnecessary fashion.

As I said, I wouldn't have barked back, if you hadn't barked first. And you can deny that you were being mean spirited, but it came off that way. I apologize if I offended you with my rebuddle. I know how it is to be down in the trenches, starting out in this business, obviously. I just hate to see that a good portion of my contemporaries have to be so firey and offput by their fellow man.

Good luck in all your endeavors. Your piano music is halfway decent. You should try listening to Air Supply sometime, they might be up your alley. They certainly go by the "Happy music is crappy music" rule. :P
 
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