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Growing old - Wellfare?

I've always assumed I'll kill myself when old age burdens become too much. It's not like we recover from old age -- at some point we, and our lives, just keep deterioriating.

Just because medical science makes it possible to stay alive into a broken down old age doesn't mean we're required to. I don't see the point of slipping into old age depression and dependence.

When I can no longer get about doing even the most basic things for myself, shopping, cooking, cleaning up, paying my bills, I don't see the point of being alive. Waking up in the morning and sitting about like a bump on a beet seems very depressing to me.

If I don't die before then, I hope I have the wisdom and courage to know when to go. Nothing worse than staying on stage once your act is done.
 
I plan on growing old disgracefully, therefore having children getting in my way at this early stage is not an option. Plus the fact that children in my eyes should be very rarely seen and almost hardly ever heard. Who can guarantee that your offspring would give a shit once they've grown up and probably moved away and started their own family? I know I love my parents but the thought of wiping their arse when they are incapable is enough to make me want to slash holes into my wrists now to be prefectly frank. I also know from talking to my mother that when she reaches a certain age where she can no longer cope with herself, she doesn't want me or my siblings to burden ourselves with looking after her and I think she is quite right too.
 
Yes, but your children should want to really care for you when you are old, so you'll still have to put a lot of time, care and effort into making them really love you, otherwise they're just going to stick you in an old peoples home anyway...

Do you care for your parents or would you stick them in an old peoples home?
 
To: joeslifeyork: You live in merry olde England don"t you? Won't the Queen look after you?
 
Having kids just for the sake of them supporting you is a bad idea. Just look at some of the posts on this thread: some ungrateful bastards won't give a fuck about you in your old age (in spite of the fact mommie and/or daddie wiped your ass when you were young).

And many kids would go after your money and leave you in a dive to die, rather than use that money to make your life comfortable in the end. I've seen it happen. It's gross, really.

As you age, I think your opinions will change somewhat. Growing old should be something that's respected, but in Western society we treat old people as disposable rags, never talking to them to gain their wisdom and knowledge. Never spending the few minutes a day it takes to cheer them up and have fun with them. It's sad, really.

I think old people can be beautiful and wise and funny.
 
Just make sure you make enough money then to be able to afford to hire people who are good, honest, loyal and that you can trust to look after you well when the time comes. On the other hand if you choose the wrong people, they might plot to kill you in your sleep and run away with all your money.
 
joeslifeyork said:
^ my apologies then - but your continued questioning of my committment gave the impression of that.
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Sorry, my intentions were merely to give you food for thought.

That last comment about your parents holding you to that was meant in jest.
 
TheBled said:
I agree.

I wonder how many parents actually had this in their thoughts when they decided they wanted to give birth? If I wanted a kid at all, it would be for everything but he/she having to care for me at an older age.
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Exactly! I don't know of any parent who decided having children meant free health care for when they're old and decrepid. Besides, my mother is far too proud to let her mere children look after her, she'd rather hire a nurse with credentials than me.
 
I have 2 gay friends/neighbors that took in a 98 year old woman/friend to live with them. All of her children and most of her family had past away before she did. I kind of like the idea of living with friends. If you don't have a partner/husband, it does not mean that you have to live alone.

In the US, they are starting to build gay friendly retirement communities. That could also be an option.

What do you think?
 
I have thought about this as well; I got 3 younger brothers and an adorable nephew. My family has always been really close so I am sure I will not be alone or dumped into a nursing home. I have been putting money into a 401k plan for several years and plan on having help to look after me and my well being. I think having a 401k plan is a great idea, everyone should look into it to secure our future.
 
I have thought about this a lot. I have often had the same thoughts as NickCole. I am reminded of the elderly man in my small hometown (about 5000 people) who committed suicide on his back porch shortly after his wife died. They had no children. It was sad, but it was the only solution he could accept.
 
I have a family history of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
I also have a gun.

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