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Homophobia, Men, and Lesbians.

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I'm not quite sure where this post should go, but this forum seems to be the best fit! Anyways;

I was recently out with some friends, and observed/overheard a conversation that I found interesting. Basically, it went as something like:

"...blah blah blah... I really would love to be in-between two lesbians.... blah blah blah..." Cut to a few minutes later "...Yea that kosser guy is such a fag..." Queue a few more minutes of homophobic ranting and banter from the whole group (It got a little nasty).

This all came from the same guy. On the one hand he has a fantasy about lesbians (Admiring them) and on the other - he dislikes gay men.

And then I started thinking: Well gosh, a lot of men seem to hold that fantasy... I wonder if many men have the same double standard regarding homosexuality?

-- I mean, is a man who wouldn't ever want to be near a gay male really homophobic if he admires Lesbians, or 'wants to be with one!'?

:bs:
 
In my opinion, most guys (assuming I'm talking about the same "type" of guy, if you will) wouldn't necessarily want to "be in between two lesbians" as much as they would want two women to be servicing him and open-minded about experimenting with the other woman. If said women were lesbians in the sense that we, as members of the queer community, understand them to be, a straight guy "in between" them would be pushed out of the way and kicked out of the room (or plenty worse).

I had noticed this double standard before, but after closer inspection, it's just blatant homophobia, because I guarantee you, if said lesbians were anything other than the heterosexual male "hot girl" standard, the first word out of this guy's mouth would probably be "dyke."
 
Precisely. They don't want lesbians. They want hot straight women who don't mind sharing. :)

Lex
 
hmm, it just seems odd to me. Men who really like it when women (straight too) who are intimate, or close can enjoy that. Yet, on a moments notice bash gay men.

I keep thinking of that 'I kissed a girl' song, and how popular it is. :kiss:
 
Yes it's still homophobic obviously. Is this really a question here?
 
It's not a double standard. Straight men are into women and not men. It's not like they're discussing gay rights here..
 
My opinion is: it's not a really double standard theyre just turned on by girls, and girls being with each other makes them more feminine. I know some straightgirls are turned on by looking at guys having sex
 
that is a very big can o' worms honey. Many men are conditioned in our society to despise gay men, for their effeminate personalities, lifestyles and the fact that they sleep with other men. The only thing is that they're going off a stereotype that is deeply inaccurate to describe an entire community. Its also his attraction to females, why have one when he can have two. that would also be attracted to each other and let him join in? It is a double standard on his part and that of many men but the main thing they don't seem to understand is that being gay is not just about our sexual habits, even though many of us have to work on our whole self, myself included. They think that our dick is our brain and that we live to make them uncomfortable when we only have a different attraction and want love from a different person like a man as opposed to women. It would've been awesome if you could've taken the opportunity to educate him on this but it wasn't the place or time. Keep it in mind though for when you do have the opportunity to educate someone else though, share your stories or others with them. help them see that we are people too. Now the real question, Why do so many fem guys dislike butch lesbians? haha. Myself included...
 
It's really not that confusing. Straight men find two women together to be visually pleasing. It appeals to their visceral sexuality. It has nothing to do with their broader views on homosexuality in general.

Red-X-Robin said:
My opinion is: it's not a really double standard theyre just turned on by girls, and girls being with each other makes them more feminine. I know some straightgirls are turned on by looking at guys having sex
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Huh? How exactly do you define femininity?
 
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