How often are str8's actually "seduced" in gay porn?

[wonderwort]

I'm a big fan of amateur(ish) gay porn.

How often are straight men actually "seduced" (into a HJ or BJ) while the scene is being filmed ?

I would think that the cameraman /producer would talk to the potential models first about the model's willingness to engage in HJ's or BJ's BEFORE the scene is actually filmed.

I've personally seen just a few scenes where I actually think that the cameraman/ producer actually seduced the models.

The only two which I'm 100% sure was spontaneous "seduction" was

1) ASG "Tony Rogers" scene. The cameraman talks the model into letting him give the model a BJ.

2) Straight Fraternity "Vinnie" scene. During the scene the cameraman was giving a "Vinnie" a hand job and spontaneously decided to give "Vinnie" a BJ to "Vinnie's" objection.

Do you folks think that in the porn site Sneek Peak, "Vinnie" the cameraman is actually seducing the models while they are on camera or does "Vinnie" negoiate with the models first off camera before the film actually rolls ?

Do you folks think that Australian site "Seduced Straight Guys", the cameraman actually seduces the models during the filming ?

Anyone know of sites or scenes where the cameraman does spontaneously seduce the models while they are filming ?

 

[jktoooo]

Military Classified are good ones. Mixed in terms of straight, gay. rob, the owner site and performer, I am sure talks to them off camera. But most of the guys never turn up on other sites.

 

[wonderwort]

It is my personal opinion that at least 95% of scenes that are passed as "seductions" while filming, are actually agreed to before the filming.

Also, the acting trying to "sell" the "seduction" is bad.

 

[wonderwort]

I also know of one other scene where the "seduction" was spontaneous.

In the site Sneek Peek, "Vinnie" tries to give "Gianni" a BJ while Vinnie is giving Gianni a HJ and Gianni refuses.

 

[spemat35]

Boner pills and meth. Danny Wylde is one in porn who was open about this. I mean, nobody thinks very deeply into women who are like this.

 

[Pierresro]

Re: How often are str8's actually "seduced" in gay porn?

Money gets many!

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Money gets many!

 

[Suburbanite]

The one video I've seen in which I was actually convinced the straight guy had no idea he was going to be played with was the "Taylor" video produced by Vinnie Russo. The guy - a married dad - shows up for a straight porn audition and Vinnie tells him they need to measure his dick hard. Vinnie goes from measuring it, to jerking it "to make is as big as possible", to sucking it. "Taylor", not the sharpest knife in the drawer, is taken aback but allows it because Vinnie assures him he's straight and it's a normal part of the porn audition process. Eventually the guy cums.

It's wrong of me, but I do find it hot, and I think it's definitely genuine. I've seen other videos in which the guys' boundaries get pushed, but at least they showed up understanding they were there to do gay porn.

 

[dukemike]

Great subject. Are links to the videos allowed here? If so please provide some, even preview links. Thanks.

 

[Telstra]

I also know of one other scene where the "seduction" was spontaneous.

In the site Sneek Peek, "Vinnie" tries to give "Gianni" a BJ while Vinnie is giving Gianni a HJ and Gianni refuses.

No links ? come one

 

[Suburbanite]

I don't think we're allowed to post links to whole videos, and I don't know of a preview for the video I was talking about. The entire thing is on the usual third-party pornsites. It's SeducedStr8Boyz and the guy's name is Taylor.

Here's a screenshot:


He's a married military guy who thought he'd make a brief foray into straight porn and thought he was on an audition. Seems like a really nice, nervous guy. I feel like I should feel bad adding to his exposure, but jeez what an idiot.

 

[Telstra]

I don't think we're allowed to post links to whole videos, and I don't know of a preview for the video I was talking about. The entire thing is on the usual third-party pornsites. It's SeducedStr8Boyz and the guy's name is Taylor.

Here's a screenshot:
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He's a married military guy who thought he'd make a brief foray into straight porn and thought he was on an audition. Seems like a really nice, nervous guy. I feel like I should feel bad adding to his exposure, but jeez what an idiot.

but who is Gianni ?

 

[Suburbanite]

I don't know the guy's name or if this is what Larryng is referring to, but in this scene from Str8GuyzSeduced, this stud allows Vinnie to give him a handjob but pulls away when Vinnie tries to violate their agreement and blow him. Rather awkward moment.



Nerdy-hot guy with a blue collar Philly accent and awesome body. But again, I don't know if he's Gianni.

 

[seioussuction69]

If the models have to sign consent forms for it to be released, they know ahead of time what they are getting into. The acting is ridiculous most of time "Oh, well...I've never done anything with a guy before." Unless it's an actual amateur video, porn is staged. When you see a guy who is straight eating another guys ass without hesitation, it's been agreed on first. Also, money is exchanged, and you get paid by what you're willing to do. That's not to say all the guys who do porn are only in it for money, they might love the sex, the might be exhibitionists. Put me with any of the "straight" guys from Corbin Fisher, the money would be a nice perk, but I'd do it for free.

 

[Suburbanite]

If the models have to sign consent forms for it to be released, they know ahead of time what they are getting into. The acting is ridiculous most of time "Oh, well...I've never done anything with a guy before." Unless it's an actual amateur video, porn is staged. When you see a guy who is straight eating another guys ass without hesitation, it's been agreed on first. Also, money is exchanged, and you get paid by what you're willing to do. That's not to say all the guys who do porn are only in it for money, they might love the sex, the might be exhibitionists. Put me with any of the "straight" guys from Corbin Fisher, the money would be a nice perk, but I'd do it for free.

In the Taylor one, he gets the guy to sign a release form while they're discussing how he scouts people for companies producing hetero porn, etc. Again, "Taylor" is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, poor guy.

I've always thought exhibitionism to be a big motivator in straight guys doing gay porn. While they get more for gay porn than straight porn, do they get paid THAT much? All Australian Guys advertises itself as paying a few hundred bucks per shoot. And I've always figured if they can afford their obvious gym memberships and supplements, these aren't kids from meth-ravaged trailer parks. Perhaps that's naive, and they're desperate to pay for steroids.

For the ones doing gay porn as a one-off, I've always figured it was a mixture of getting turned on at being naked on camera, getting SOME ready cash, and naively convincing themselves it won't come back to haunt them.

All of this is, I realize, my assumption. I'm always curious to hear insights as to what gets people into porn.

 

[seioussuction69]

In the Taylor one, he gets the guy to sign a release form while they're discussing how he scouts people for companies producing hetero porn, etc. Again, "Taylor" is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, poor guy.

I've always thought exhibitionism to be a big motivator in straight guys doing gay porn. While they get more for gay porn than straight porn, do they get paid THAT much? All Australian Guys advertises itself as paying a few hundred bucks per shoot. And I've always figured if they can afford their obvious gym memberships and supplements, these aren't kids from meth-ravaged trailer parks. Perhaps that's naive, and they're desperate to pay for steroids.

For the ones doing gay porn as a one-off, I've always figured it was a mixture of getting turned on at being naked on camera, getting SOME ready cash, and naively convincing themselves it won't come back to haunt them.

All of this is, I realize, my assumption. I'm always curious to hear insights as to what gets people into porn.

I'm sure money is the motivating factor for most people who do porn. If you're just an exhibitionist, you don't need much motivation. But as sexually liberated as I am, I couldn't do porn. I'd do the guys, no problem, just not on film. Gay porn pays more than straight, but how many of us could perform with a camera crew and a director? It doesn't pay enough to live on, that's why they escort and do personal appearances. And it's not like you get royalties, you get paid that one time. No health care plan, no retirement plan. But it seems like most of these guys need money for college. I think one of the reasons I love porn is the "how do they do it?" shock of it. Part of me wants to get gang banged by the Corbin Fisher or Bel Ami guys, forget about the money. But once I saw the cameras my dick would probably fully retract.

 

[Suburbanite]

I'm sure money is the motivating factor for most people who do porn. If you're just an exhibitionist, you don't need much motivation. But as sexually liberated as I am, I couldn't do porn. I'd do the guys, no problem, just not on film. Gay porn pays more than straight, but how many of us could perform with a camera crew and a director? It doesn't pay enough to live on, that's why they escort and do personal appearances. And it's not like you get royalties, you get paid that one time. No health care plan, no retirement plan. But it seems like most of these guys need money for college. I think one of the reasons I love porn is the "how do they do it?" shock of it. Part of me wants to get gang banged by the Corbin Fisher or Bel Ami guys, forget about the money. But once I saw the cameras my dick would probably fully retract.

I suppose most guys would feel the way you do. I've always found the idea of doing porn - of being in front of the camera and crew - a turn on. But I realize I might feel very different if faced with the reality. I've always figured that they can get hard at all means most of these guys are aroused to some degree by showing off. I wouldn't have thought that the idea of paying for textbooks or whatever would be enough to do the job. Having said that, I once read an interview with an escort who said looking forward to the payout was indeed what helped him get hard and go through with it.