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I am totally convinced now...Cellphones have made kids socially retarded

rareboy

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So for the first time in my life...someone has stood outside our house and called to tell me that they were here to mow the lawn instead of just knocking on the door. I've seen a big change over the last ten years in how the kids who mow our lawns interact socially...we have gone from the sweet and outgoing kid who felt perfectly comfortable knocking and then walking in to the house to get a drink or use the bathroom or to make his own lunch, to a series of increasingly disconnected teenagers who don't ever unplug from their I-Brain or stop texting to whoever they haven't texted for the last 5 minutes and would never step inside the house.

It is almost impossible now to get anyone under the age of 25 in our office to interact with real humans and harder and harder to get them to cold call anyone. This week I blew up at one of the 'shy' young interns who didn't call as I had asked but sent an email and thought it was okay because the other person hadn't responded for two days to a question that needed answering the moment I asked it.

Rant over.
 
It reminds me of that commercial with a family sitting at a holiday table and someone at the table calling someone else at the table and asking them to pass the gravy.
 
It's a well documented condition of anomie - a society where individuals' connection with each other have become socially frayed.
Communication is thus carried out, but at a distance.
I hate it, it's awful, but this is increasingly how we relate to each other.
 
but it is also sad when someone does not change with the times.
 
Instead of using technology as a tool, we have allowed it to alter the the way we live. I often wonder why they call it "social media". There is nothing "social" about talking to a machine and reading words on a screen. Sad. Eventually this avoiding human face to face contact will be our undoing. Technology cannot replace the human dynamic.
 
I was going to send a messenger torareboy with a note, but then thought I'd send a letter but then thought I'd send a ********, but then thought I'd phone.

Protesting too much are we, ladies?
 
Low-tech:
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High-tech:
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Maybe they thought a). you could be not at home or b). you may not be able to hear someone knocking?

I usually do that, I mean. Because somehow knocking does not always work, I usually give the person a call to tell them I'm about to reach his/her place.
 
rareboy said:
So for the first time in my life...someone has stood outside our house and called to tell me that they were here to mow the lawn instead of just knocking on the door. I've seen a big change over the last ten years in how the kids who mow our lawns interact socially...we have gone from the sweet and outgoing kid who felt perfectly comfortable knocking and then walking in to the house to get a drink or use the bathroom or to make his own lunch, to a series of increasingly disconnected teenagers who don't ever unplug from their I-Brain or stop texting to whoever they haven't texted for the last 5 minutes and would never step inside the house.

It is almost impossible now to get anyone under the age of 25 in our office to interact with real humans and harder and harder to get them to cold call anyone. This week I blew up at one of the 'shy' young interns who didn't call as I had asked but sent an email and thought it was okay because the other person hadn't responded for two days to a question that needed answering the moment I asked it.

Rant over.
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I was having a discussion on this exact same topic with a friend last night, Rareboy. I'm pretty much a firm believer in something: intelligent kids at 12 are pretty generally intelligent people at 18 or 21, too. Rude or selfish people at 21 generally still are at 31 or 41.

There may be more tools today that immediately give away someone's social awkwardness, lack of manners or lack of consideration for other people. The discussion I was having last night was actually within the context of how rude I consider it when I'm out with a friend or on a date and their phone comes out too often, particularly if it requires me to sit and stare at them for 6 seconds while they completely space out to type a text response or read something on their phone. But I do believe that rude people are rude people much like chronically late people are selfish people who do not respect your time, and the phone didn't make them that way.

I say give the kids in your office once chance, if the phone is a problem tell them that aside from reasonable need-to-use instances, you expect their attention to be on their work or their customers or their task or the fact that a coworker is addressing them, and not on checking themselves into 4square or answering a new message on facebook. I do think that many people with fancy phones dramatically overestimate the degree to which they consider themselves "great multitaskers" and greatly underestimate the degree to which their phone causes regular moments of their brain oozing out of their ear as they stop everything they are doing, even halting midsentence in a conversation, as they abruptly read or check something on their phone or mash a text reply, which is how it looks to anyone who was trying to talk to them. At that point anyone worthwhile is going to take your admonition seriously and put the phone away at work or leave it on silent, as I do. If they don't, they're simply bad mannered and have taken a position about how seriously they respect you and the job they have with you.

I mentioned to my friend that the phone coming out for really more than anything other than directions we both need or "sorry about that, work told me they were going to need to call and get my pin number" is pretty much a dealbreaker for me on a date. If I feel in any way that I am competing in conversation to whatever ongoing IM chats they had going on with their friends on their phone, I lose all interest in the person, because my phone is on silent in my pocket when I go out one on one with anybody, and I expect the same.

My 15 1/2 cents.
 
RB did you ask him why he called instead of knocked? Or when he calls next time just say "Well Knock when you arrive" CLICK. Force train these insolent little sex pigs. A poorly trained boy is the fault of the master.
 
palbert said:
I was going to send a messenger torareboy with a note, but then thought I'd send a letter but then thought I'd send a ********, but then thought I'd phone.

Protesting too much are we, ladies?
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But Lewis. You aren't standing 15 feet away from my door. And if you can send a messenger...we'd love to send one back.
 
JayHawk said:
RB did you ask him why he called instead of knocked? Or when he calls next time just say "Well Knock when you arrive" CLICK. Force train these insolent little sex pigs. A poorly trained boy is the fault of the master.
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I actually did say to (her) that there is an analogue app for getting me to come out of the house called knocking and I did reinforce that I would like her to come to the door and let me know she's here rather than standing out in the driveway for 10 minutes expecting me to appear by magic. The weirdest part is that the key is in the tractor, she knows where the gas can is kept and shouldn't even need to have any contact with us. I miss our best lawn boy more and more every year.
 
Yeah i had a great kid doing the job in Connecticut and then in Memphis it was horrible. Odd thing about the young man that was doing the lawn in CT, he was 14 at the time (I think), a few years later i was in a gay club and guess who the shot boy was ? Grinding all his glory on a brass pole. He did a damn good job at that too.
 
Did you update your mower to the Toro 7.0? You're not making him mow with an outdated 6.2, are you?

Lex
 
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