I Want to Kill Myself

[Twistedup]

well...

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229719

check it out if you want to. the point is that we're all fucked up.

but...give it a minute. think yourself out

this shit is hard, but wait..

wait...

it will get better.

 

[EvilForce2]

Well, you guys really distracted me tonight - I received tons of PMs, a telephone call from a relative, and an urgent need to submit my college homework before midnight.

Thanks everyone for your kind words and help. I promise to seek therapy and/or medication come Monday morning.

Why wait? Go to an urgent care center right now. You made a suicide threat a month ago on this thread: http://jmedia7.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227677

Do you really think you can find someone that will magically make you happy somehow? Happiness comes from within, not from the right guy, the right job, the right city to move to, or anything else externally. How can you expect other guys to like you when you have such overwhelming self-hate issues going on? You may think you are good at hiding your self loathing but I promise you I'm sure it's as clear as if it were stamped on your forehead when you meet guys. How attractive do you think self-loathing is to a prospective boyfriend?

You may need medication and or therapy. But in any event it really is up to you whether you allow yourself to be happy or force yourself to be miserable all the time. You have the power to decide.

 

[Cognition]

You may think you are good at hiding your self loathing but I promise you I'm sure it's as clear as if it were stamped on your forehead when you meet guys. How attractive do you think self-loathing is to a prospective boyfriend?

How dare you! You don't even know me, sir. Stop equating one incident of being depressed with the assumption that I'm always "self-loathing".

That was really cruel and ugly of you to post that.

 

[EvilForce2]

That was really cruel and ugly of you to post that.

No it wasn't. It's the truth. Like it or not it is how the world works my friend. Did you need me to put a cyberhug emoticon in my post or flower up my words to tell you the exact thing only in a less direct, round about way?

Again, YOU have the power to do something about your situation. So you can either DO SOMETHING, or not. You've claimed to be suicidal for over a month now. How long are you going to allow yourself to feel this way?

Confidence is sexy and enticing to others. Self-loathing is the opposite.

*shrug*

 

[Cognition]

His delivery was God-awful but there were some good points in there. I dunno if he was more concerned with helping you or scolding you but these are some highlights.

Ahem. "...more concerned with...scolding [me]..."

If he gets any more condescending just report him and let the Mods take care of him, or you can always put him on ignore.

Will do. Thanks.

 

[EvilForce2]

How dare you! You don't even know me, sir. Stop equating one incident of being depressed with the assumption that I'm always "self-loathing".

"One incident"? Perhaps you should review your posting history here:

August 17th, your first post:

So now, I'm at home lonely on a Saturday night with no one to call, and no one calling me. I hate this miserable life of mine. I wish I wasn't born.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4192980#post4192980

August 21st:

Eh, I wish I was asexual so I wouldn't have to deal with this miserable, boring life of mine.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4205937#post4205937

August 21st:

Trust me, I know this for a fact. Unfortunately I'm a person of color and have to deal with this "discrimination".

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4208560#post4208560

August 23rd:

Could someone please talk to me? I feel like taking my own life - I'm so depressed...

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4193120#post4193120

August 24th

I hope going to the gym regularly and achieving my physical fitness goals will help alleviate my anxiety "issues". Or is this just wishful thinking of mine?

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4194396#post4194396

August 25th

I'll never go to the gym with the legs I have now.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227747&page=2

Sept. 11th

Sure, Dallas has plenty of other guys, but I don't think any of them will even like me, even as a friend. Needless to say, I'm African American.

Should I just let go of this gay "stuff" because I don't fit in?

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4270991#post4270991

Sept. 12th

Oh no, I wasn't wanting him to be "gaga" for me, but even his "friend", I still feel rejected. I'm feeling very, very sad right now.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4270991#post4270991

Today:

I would shrink up and die if that happened to me.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4281257#post4281257

There are more posts similar to the above. Reading the above, if it were someone else, could you honestly say you would be interested in getting to know them better?

 

[Cognition]

I'm a believer that even the ugliest message contain some points of clarity, that's why I urged you to skip past the down-talk cuz he did bring up some good points.

The key to happiness is to find it within yourself, self-sufficiency. Once you learn to be happy on your own, it doesn't bother you so much to be single. There's nothing wrong with wanting a boyfriend, but thinking that you NEED one only sets yourself up for heartache.

Even if some of us are rude pricks about it, we just want to see you do better and we're all rootin' for ya.

I understand fully, Marley. I can appreciate the (few) valid points he made.

Nevertheless, I don't appreciate the tone in which he delivered those valid points.

Thanks.

 

[Cognition]

When people express a weakness or vulnerability, others take it as an opportunity to swoop in and boast about how "all together" they are. They're not dealing with your problem at your level so apparently that makes them better than you.

I guess EvilForce2 is better than me. I envy his "togetherness". [insert sarcasm]

 

[EvilForce2]

Ah yes I get it now. You weren't really looking for advice, you were looking for cyberhugs, internet attention, and atta-boys. I should have known better.

Given your other thread where you come unhinged because your friend didn't reply to your IM in the exact, enthusiastic manner in which you want him to, it seems pretty clear that you are so self-obsessed you can't step outside your own skin for 5 seconds to think what might be going in someone else's head, and with someone else's life. And you wonder why you aren't happy?

When you stop obsessing over your own needs, and start paying attention to others, and helping them, it's amazing how your outlook on life changes. When you start living for something more than yourself, you will find contentment much easier.

The choice is yours. Do you really want help and advice, or just attention?

 

[Cognition]

Ah yes I get it now. You weren't really looking for advice, you were looking for cyberhugs, internet attention, and atta-boys. I should have known better.

Given your other thread where you come unhinged because your friend didn't reply to your IM in the exact, enthusiastic manner in which you want him to, it seems pretty clear that you are so self-obsessed you can't step outside your own skin for 5 seconds to think what might be going in someone else's head, and with someone else's life. And you wonder why you aren't happy?

When you stop obsessing over your own needs, and start paying attention to others, and helping them, it's amazing how your outlook on life changes. When you start living for something more than yourself, you will find contentment much easier.

The choice is yours. Do you really want help and advice, or just attention?

Sir, I have given my life to helping others. There are numerous individuals in my community who can give testimony to me contributing to the lives and well-being of others before myself.

Again, I urge you not to take an instance of weakness and classify me as a selfish, inconsiderate, NEEDY person.

Thank you.

 

[EvilForce2]

Sir, I have given my life to helping others. There are numerous individuals in my community who can give testimony to me contributing to the lives and well-being of others before myself.

Again, I urge you not to take an instance of weakness and classify me as a selfish, inconsiderate, NEEDY person.

Thank you.

Perhaps if you posted/talked about those experiences more people would find you compelling company or date worthy, instead of "I hate myself", "my life is boring", "I want to kill myself".

 

[Cognition]

Perhaps if you posted/talked about those experiences more people would find you compelling company or date worthy, instead of "I hate myself", "my life is boring", "I want to kill myself".

Maybe so. However, bragging about my good works is just as bad as (what you accuse me of) "self-loathing".

Some of the few things I do such as co-founding a charitable organization, assisting those who in poverty, and teaching computer applications to individuals who are seeking to gain competency or a competitive advantage in the job/business market, are not things I promote. I do them because it's right, and it's my personal goal to be a helping hand in the lives of countless lives. I do all this for no paycheck in addition to attending college, and playing a part of a major entrepreneurial venture launch.

I have a piece of advice for you: Don't you dare make a judgment about anyone until you have all the facts, before you become guilty (again) of making unsubstantiated claims about my life, personality, and character.

Because your argument is "full of holes" and quite laughable, I will not respond to anything else you have to say.

Thanks.

 

[EvilForce2]

Excellent. Well since you are so together and realize your need for medication and therapy you will no doubt not be needing to post more "Woe Is Me" type threads and posts then.

Congrats! See, the advice you've gotten here at JUB does work.

But my original point stands, why wait until Monday to go get help when you could log off the internet and go do it right now? God/Universe helps those who help themselves.

Intelligent people know others.
Enlightened people know themselves.

You can conquer others with power,
But it takes true strength to conquer yourself.

-Lao Tzu

 

[quasar]

He asked for advice, I'm giving him my advice. If you or he don't like it, put me on ignore. Pretty simple really.

You don't seem to give advice. Having looked at all of YOUR posts, it seems that you have nothing positive to say whatsoever. To me, that is also indicative of a self-loathing complex ie. put everyone else down in order to make yourself seem superior to others. Time to look to yourself and sort your own issues out before you try to give 'advice' to others.

Anyone who has dealt with or suffered from depression knows that it doesn't happen overnight, it creeps up on you over a period of time. IB may have been posting seemingly 'down' threads or posts lately, but it doesn't mean to say that he was aware of a specific issue at the time.

This thread seems to have been a turning point for him - and I'm pleased about that. Providing he follows through and gets the help and support that he needs, then that is good.

Belittling and kicking someone whan they're down isn't the kind of support they need. Whilst I know and appreciate that your intentions (and points) were/are good, you might want to look at how you phrase them so they come across as helpful rather than critical.

 

[hanshansen]

Whilst I know and appreciate that your intentions (and points) were/are good, you might want to look at how you phrase them so they come across as helpful rather than critical.

Yes. Do you just want to lecture people, or do you actually want to have some impact on how they think and behave?

 

[G-Lexington]

You certainly appear far more interested in making it known how helpful you are than in making sure you're actually helping. Feel free to keep shining the beacon. There's a guy on a ledge I'm trying to talk down.

Lex

 

[G-Lexington]

>>>Lex i like ur comments etc, but honestly if he wants to jump let him!

Hey, I don't mind if you don't want to help. But why not move along instead of chanting "Jump!"?

Lex

 

[Sirramm]

Hey!!! I won't waste time reading other posts or attempting to diagnose you over the internet. I have dealt with huge loses and pain in my life and you know what I made it just fine. I did it because I refuse to be beaten! I refuse to be told anything negative. Look if you want to harm yourself thats your right but know this...society frowns on self mutilation and harm and if you are serious then the authorites will have no choice but to take certian rights away from you. Now do you really want to lose anything else? I didn't think so!!! So...pick yourself up...turn off the computer and get your sweet little ass out there and make friends...be nice...see the sky...soak in some sunshine!!! GO NOW!!! And after you come home and you feel like bitchin' and takin' it out on someone shoot me an email...I probably won't be real nice in my response but I'll listen and give you a dose of reality...then I'll slap you around...suck your dick...kick you in the ass and send you back out there until you get it right!

Now stop thinking negative and stop thinking you should harm yourself!!! You are a good person...how do I know? Because if you weren't you wouldn't have posted your message and you wouldn't have thought about "IT"!!!! God loves you and so do I!!!!