I've learned my lesson.

[teh_nathan]

I've learned my lesson not to post anything actually serious and health/sexuality related in Hot Topics where anyone can flame/troll/criticise/attack and not contribute anything of actual substance.

I post the odd serious thing because I think it might be relevant to someone. I don't post to get attacked (to people like Nominus, Soilwork, etc - please take your attacks somewhere else besides it's against forum rules to attack people and I'm surprised some nice mod hasn't done something about it yet, they really should). I've been attacked enough in the past in other sites/places and I don't need it here. If people only knew how much I've been attacked in the past and called this and that (and defamed), it would make their heads spin. I won't bother providing links to prove what I'm saying as that would only serve to feed the trolls.

I don't mind my beliefs being questioned (questioning things is good and we all need to do it a little more often) but if you can't do it in a mature and constructive way, please don't do it at all. This goes out to everyone. If you can't be constructive and polite in your criticisms, they're not wanted. I'm sure people don't like to be attacked themselves so I see no logical reason why they do it to others when they deserve to be treated the same way. We are all human beings with thoughts and feelings and it seems that some of us have lost sight of that. (Besides if all you do is attack, why are you here?)

I'm speaking of course, as someone who considers himself as one of the nicest people anyone can ever hope to know UNLESS provoked.

I'll instead be posting them in more related subforums as I have this morning.

I fully realise that posting this is asking to be attacked but do your worst, I really don't care. This is after all the Hot Topics forum, a place for opinions and this is mine.

- Nathan

 

[gsdx]

Unfortunately, it is easier to attack the person than it is to attack the argument.

 

[Christopher123]

Awww you

I consider Hot Topics to be one of those post at your own risk places. Yes, there are some here that tend to get a little mouthy, but I think it's just because it's their way of communicating. I don't know, I can't go around psychoanalyzing everyone, but I usually try and read a 'nasty' response a few times before replying (if I reply at all) because maybe it's just their way of expressing themselves and they didn't mean it to come out the way it did.

And yeah, okay, you have a few that like to be downright nasty about everything.

But there are many good people here, too. People that are caring and act like they give a shit, even if they may not.

This is definitely a mixed bag. And yes, there are things I post about that I'd much rather keep on the safe discussion boards because not everyone stops to realize that although a post may be lame to them, it's important to the person who posted it.

I think sometimes we forget that and we need to stop and remind ourselves every once in a while. Everyone here has a purpose and a reason for being. And everyone's opinion matters.

And that's my opinion and I'm stickin to it

 

[james1200]

I've learned my lesson not to post anything actually serious and health/sexuality related in Hot Topics where anyone can flame/troll/criticise/attack and not contribute anything of actual substance.

I post the odd serious thing because I think it might be relevant to someone. I don't post to get attacked (to people like Nominus, Soilwork, etc - please take your attacks somewhere else besides it's against forum rules to attack people and I'm surprised some nice mod hasn't done something about it yet, they really should). I've been attacked enough in the past in other sites/places and I don't need it here. If people only knew how much I've been attacked in the past and called this and that (and defamed), it would make their heads spin. I won't bother providing links to prove what I'm saying as that would only serve to feed the trolls.

I don't mind my beliefs being questioned (questioning things is good and we all need to do it a little more often) but if you can't do it in a mature and constructive way, please don't do it at all. This goes out to everyone. If you can't be constructive and polite in your criticisms, they're not wanted. I'm sure people don't like to be attacked themselves so I see no logical reason why they do it to others when they deserve to be treated the same way. We are all human beings with thoughts and feelings and it seems that some of us have lost sight of that. (Besides if all you do is attack, why are you here?)

I'm speaking of course, as someone who considers himself as one of the nicest people anyone can ever hope to know UNLESS provoked.

I'll instead be posting them in more related subforums as I have this morning.

I fully realise that posting this is asking to be attacked but do your worst, I really don't care. This is after all the Hot Topics forum, a place for opinions and this is mine.

- Nathan

 

[Christopher123]

And THEN, of course, you just have your troublemakers.

Seriously, though, let him get it off his chest, dammit. We've ALL been ripped a couple of new ones on this board, have we not? In spending a late night on Jub, I've woken up the next morning with a couple of extra back doors.

OMG! How did THOSE get there?

Oh yeah, that's right, I was on Jub last night.

 

[star-warrior]

Takes a deep breath in and steps back....

 

[star-warrior]

OK, back again after re-reading the thread and other responses.

If you want advice, you get things you may like to hear, and things you don't. If your past experiences with some people in your life have disappointed you, don't lash out here at us for giving opinions to a thread you called 'a thought experiment', but then it came to be taken by you as an attack on your personal life.

As for this thread, I don't think you understood where the people there were coming from, since you weren't able to step back and detach from your problems before answering.

 

[Christopher123]

Like I said in my post, sometimes things don't always come out the way they should or they don't always look the way they're intended. It's gonna happen when you're not actually sitting face-to-face with someone and there's no chance of expressing true emotion. Which is why I said I sit back and read stuff over again and really try and understand where the person who said it is coming from.

And then there have been times where I'm like, "Okay, he was REALLY trying to be nasty," lol.

Oh well, meh. Life goes on.

Wishy-washy hugs to everybody anyway.

 

[trawler69]

Nathan.
I think you take it too seriously. If you read Soilworks responses to others they are blunt and to the point, it's how he is, he speaks as he sees. I don't know the specifics in this case. Nonimus will be horrified to know that he has been spotted being a closeted nice person at times. If you read their posts carefully and look at what you wrote carefully, you may find a correlation.

I've just looked back and found the thread. I believe its the std testing before relationship one.

You invited opinions, they were given, not nastily, Soilwork explained his reasons briefly and to the point. Noni gave his in his unique way. YOU jumped on YOUR soapbox and wound yourself up because you didn't agree with them. In reading the whole thread from the start you got off very lightly indeed.

You are being too sensitive. If you post a thread that is obviously going to be controversial, where you have already got your own stance, and you invite comments, be prepared for the responses.

I'm not flaming, I'm explaining.

 

[BenF]

Diddums.

Grow thicker skin.

 

[BenF]

I still cant see where it is in the forum rules that you aren't allowed to attack, there stuff about abuse but not about attack. I've asked whathisface to provide evidence by quoting the rules but as with certain posters he prefers his own version of the truth.

What??!! Somebody not backing up a passive-agressive whinge with something like facts or evidence?! I don't believe it!

 

[Nonimus]

I've learned my lesson not to post anything actually serious and health/sexuality related in Hot Topics where anyone can flame/troll/criticise/attack and not contribute anything of actual substance.

The answer I gave concerning the 'Big Brother' factor to your 'suggestion' was of 'actual substance' - Britain is one of the most spied-upon nations in the world (by its own government). I also stated my point that I prefer to use safe-sex methods in relationships.

I post the odd serious thing because I think it might be relevant to someone. I don't post to get attacked (to people like Nominus, Soilwork, etc - please take your attacks somewhere else besides it's against forum rules to attack people and I'm surprised some nice mod hasn't done something about it yet, they really should)..

Where's the personal attack? You blatently stated in your think-tank thread that 'all adversarial comment welcome' By that I'm sure you meant people who have a difference of opinion. When people put their opinion to you, you don't bother answering, just start a new thread jumping up and down on your proverbial soap box because people don't agree with you.

Oh and by the way - Soilwork and I did not personally attack you - however taking your greviences into another thread and falsely accusing Jubber's of doing such IS

I've been attacked enough in the past in other sites/places and I don't need it here. If people only knew how much I've been attacked in the past and called this and that (and defamed), it would make their heads spin. I won't bother providing links to prove what I'm saying as that would only serve to feed the trolls.

I'm speaking of course, as someone who considers himself as one of the nicest people anyone can ever hope to know UNLESS provoked.

I disagree. I think you have some serious issues in relating to other people. I wasn't going to mention it in the other thread but I find your phobia of personal relationships and intimacy problems disturbing. I do feel pity for you.

 

[Nonimus]

Unfortunately, it is easier to attack the person than it is to attack the argument.

And you can incode your chevron 7 too.

 

[Pringle]

Nathan.
I think you take it too seriously. If you read Soilworks responses to others they are blunt and to the point, it's how he is, he speaks as he sees. I don't know the specifics in this case. Nonimus will be horrified to know that he has been spotted being a closeted nice person at times. If you read their posts carefully and look at what you wrote carefully, you may find a correlation.

I've just looked back and found the thread. I believe its the std testing before relationship one.

You invited opinions, they were given, not nastily, Soilwork explained his reasons briefly and to the point. Noni gave his in his unique way. YOU jumped on YOUR soapbox and wound yourself up because you didn't agree with them. In reading the whole thread from the start you got off very lightly indeed.

You are being too sensitive. If you post a thread that is obviously going to be controversial, where you have already got your own stance, and you invite comments, be prepared for the responses.

I'm not flaming, I'm explaining.

Well said - deserved quoting ^.

I will just add that I agree it is safer you stay out of hot topics, you seem to take it way too seriously and get wound up far too quickly and cry "flame" when no one else can see it.

I certainly don't want to run the risk of upseting you with my lame attempts at humour (which yeah sometimes do lack substance - and I have contacted my writers about this ) so bonza idea to stick to the areas where lame arses like me don't hang out.

Keep safe - and keep happy - remember some of this interent stuff is meant to be fun!

 

[screwnutty]

Give me your command Nathan and I will begin rounding up the "volunteers" for the new program! Everything will be fine once the upgrade is complete.

 

[looseliam]

There's the report post option if you think someone is stepping over the line.

Other than that, I wouldn't expect lovey-dovey responses from everyone. This isn't grade school.

 

[blackbeltninja]

Well I know I'm new and everything, but so far I've already found Soilworks to be a nice guy.

He is.

But that won't stop him from smacking you on the head if you need it, like your mom might have done when you were growing up just to keep you on your toes.

-d-