Jamaica's not weeping. [SPLIT]

[fabulouslyghetto]

Breaking news: Jamaica's not weeping.

And tonight, on a special report, people who look like the conquerors seem baffled why the people who look like the conquered don't empathize. "It's just a little slavery and violent conquest, let it go!" they say.

 

[belamyi]

Breaking news: Jamaica's not weeping.

And tonight, on a special report, people who look like the conquerors seem baffled why the people who look like the conquered don't empathize. "It's just a little slavery and violent conquest, let it go!" they say.

They have a good point but... Jamaica! Good riddance to Germaica.

If history tell us something, and proves it once again and again and again and again and again and again and again, it's that today's "conquered" and "poor oppressed" are tomorrow's conquering and oppressing bastards.

So that the 'dishonour' always goes on, always makes sense only on the part of the self-aware criminal.

Being included in all that proving that 'Korean exception[alism]' that proves the rule.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Jamaica! Good riddance to Germaica.

Germ as in dirty or unsanitary? If so, there's a common denominator for unkempt black communities and nations: colonization. Enter, enslave, drain resources, leave in squalor. That's kinda where the bad reputation comes from, but you already knew that. Final step, make public appearances once every few years and let the locals carry you around on a golden chariot in a huge exercise of ego and racial dominatrix. "Look at these poor negro savages carrying royalty! Beneath us, where they belong."

 

[belamyi]

So that the 'dishonour' always goes on, always makes sense only on the part of the self-aware criminal. So that we can acknowledge only as far as that makes part of our own beliefs, not as a debt towards the resentful.

 

[belamyi]

Germ as in dirty or unsanitary? If so, there's a common denominator for unkempt black communities and nations: colonization. Enter, enslave, drain resources, leave in squalor. That's kinda where the bad reputation comes from, but you already knew that. Final step, make public appearances once every few years and let the locals carry you around on a golden chariot in a huge exercise of ego and racial dominatrix. "Look at these poor negro savages carrying royalty! Beneath us, where they belong."

I was merely making reference to Jamaica's everyday fascism against its own people, ethnicity and imperialism put aside. Refer to my previous comment about resentful nations or communities being so not su much because of unfairness as because they were "bettered" at a game they would have rather played, without any sense of guilt, played on others... or willing to play under the excuse of "revenge" or "comeuppance"... that most favourite subject of Aunt Esther's

 

[belamyi]

So that the 'dishonour' always goes on, always makes sense only on the part of the self-aware criminal. So that we can acknowledge only as far as that makes part of our own beliefs, not as a debt towards the resentful.

Because the pardon of and "cleaning through" others, even of God (God the first and best 'worst' example) is only a way of individual and social hipocrisy, designed to run away from the deepest, most painful self-awareness of one's own "sins".

 

[joequill]

Breaking news: Jamaica's not weeping.

And tonight, on a special report, people who look like the conquerors seem baffled why the people who look like the conquered don't empathize. "It's just a little slavery and violent conquest, let it go!" they say.

I wonder how they feel about the black people that were making a ton of money selling other blacks into slavery, I also wonder why that is never mentioned

 

[belamyi]

I wonder how they feel about the black people that were making a ton of money selling other blacks into slavery, I also wonder why that is never mentioned

There. What I said.

Take Haiti: perfect, extreme example. An exception made a posterchild for..: black people getting rid of the oppresor and not wanting ANYTHING to do with the "white" (strawberry-and-creme) devil.

Haiti.

And what about Africa post-independence from their bloody *good bad pun* majesties. John Wayne will remain as idiotic as always for his servile public views on the black but, still, you can't get away forever with the blame on colonialism: we had the same with Francoism and Catalonia over here.

^ Amen. What I said above.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I wonder how they feel about the black people that were making a ton of money selling other blacks into slavery, I also wonder why that is never mentioned

it's mentioned about 1,000x a day by white conservatives. that's the ONLY point of slavery they're willing to address. the rest.... wipe it from the history books!

 

[bendted]

I'm not weeping for jamaicans. Reminder: they are the most homophobic and as such can go fuck themselves.

 

[joequill]

it's mentioned about 1,000x a day by white conservatives. that's the ONLY point of slavery they're willing to address. the rest.... wipe it from the history books!

Actually it's not mentioned that often by anyone-not at all by black people. and as for things being wiped from history books, think you got the wrong colour on that one!

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I'm not weeping for jamaicans. Reminder: they are the most homophobic and as such can go fuck themselves.

All homophobic nations can go fuck themselves or just the black ones?

Cuz, er, um, uh, Americans considered homosexuality a form of mental illness until, what, the late 1990s? Early 2000s? We still have anti-sodomy laws on the books. Oh wait, they're white so their bigotry is forgivable.

Plot twist: Was Jamaica, like Africa, LGBT-friendly before white men showed up with chains and bibles?

 

[belamyi]

All homophobic nations can go fuck themselves or just the black ones?

Cuz, er, um, uh, Americans considered homosexuality a form of mental illness until, what, the late 1990s? Early 2000s? We still have anti-sodomy laws on the books. Oh wait, they're white so their bigotry is forgivable.

Plot twist: Was Jamaica, like Africa, LGBT-friendly before white men showed up with chains and bibles?

The point is that they resist to be "enlightened": granted their is an everlasting core in every country an society that will never accept anything remotely related to thoughtful and evolving attitudes and, again, true that The West won't preach anything unless it has been accepted by It, yet "traditional" societies, "conquered" nations see opposition to democracy and equality as the lasting, ultimate imposition from the conquerors... and that rotten core to which I was referring at the beginning of this post will hypocritically, cynically use that as a way to righteously continue to be as racist, male chauvinist and homophobic as the ones they are pointing to, under the guise and disguise of "Western values" they do not consider their own.
In short, there is a greater global opposition made up of factions inside every country, between "enlightened" and "cavepeople", the tribalist sham traditionalists.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

The point is that they resist to be "enlightened": granted their is an everlasting core in every country an society that will never accept anything remotely related to thoughtful and evolving attitudes and, again, true that The West won't preach anything unless it has been accepted by It, yet "traditional" societies, "conquered" nations see opposition to democracy and equality as the lasting, ultimate imposition from the conquerors... and that rotten core to which I was referring at the beginning of this post will hypocritically, cynically use that as a way to righteously continue to be as racist, male chauvinist and homophobic as the ones they are pointing to, under the guise and disguise of "Western values" they do not consider their own.
In short, there is a greater global opposition made up of factions inside every country, between "enlightened" and "cavepeople", the tribalist sham traditionalists.

You make a lot more sense when I'm high.

 

[belamyi]

You make a lot more sense when I'm high.

Are you blaming me for your cancer?