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Just wondering if any of this is true about gays?

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I am a single guy 28 (never had "sex" with a guy before-just experiment). I am not posting this to gross anyone out but I just want some answers for myself on this article below. Is it true that guys who bottom have "issues" later on (see below)?

I already have very mixed thoughts about my sexuality this for me would just put the nail in the coffin for me and stay alone. This just freeks me out. Since it says I am new I can not post the URL. Just want some answers on this.

Gay Bowel Syndrome and other Consequences of Anal Eroticism
Gay bowel syndrome
Gay bowel syndrome refers to some combination of intestinal or anorectal infection/trauma among male homosexuals. Homosexuals do not like this phrase, and note that gay bowel syndrome “is neither gay-specific, confined to the bowel, nor a syndrome.”(1) However, this phrase was coined by some physicians in response to a “clinical pattern of anorectal and colon diseases encountered with unusual frequency” in homosexual men in New York City in 1976.(2, 3; see also: 4, 5) These authors noted that in a sample of 260 homosexual men, “The clinical diagnoses in decreasing order of frequency include condyloma acuminata, hemorrhoids, nonspecific proctitis, anal fistula, perirectal abscess, anal fissure, amebiasis, benign polyps, viral hepatitis, gonorrhea, syphilis, anorectal trauma and foreign bodies, shigellosis, rectal ulcers and lymphogranuloma venereum.”(2)

Some details of anorectal problems among male homosexuals
The internal anal sphincter (an involuntary muscle) does not look favorably upon foreign objects attempting to enter the rectum. This muscle relaxes during defecation, but remains in a contracted state otherwise, which seals the anal opening.

For a period following receptive anal sex, the internal anal sphincter is stretched and is unable to contract strongly, thereby failing to completely seal the anal opening until the muscle regains its original tone. Repetitive anal sex, especially with large penises or rectal insertions of large objects may damage the internal anal sphincter, thereby preventing complete sealing of the anus, and leading to fecal mucus seepage (anal or fecal incontinence). Additionally, anal sex exacerbates fecal seepage by stimulating colonic motility, which sends feces from the colon down into the lower rectum.(6)

The soiling of clothes from fecal seepage is a problem for many homosexuals. Goldstone mentioned a study where 25% of homosexuals that practiced anoreceptive intercourse and 50% of AIDS-afflicted homosexuals had anal incontinence compared to a 3% rate among heterosexual men.(6) Miles et al. compared 40 male homosexuals (all practiced anoreceptive sex) with 18 male heterosexuals.(7) Only one heterosexual but 14 (35%) homosexuals had frequent anal incontinence.(7)

To avoid soiling of clothes, homosexuals with mild problems are advised to use a menstrual-type pad in the back of their underwear to absorb moisture and waste.(6) Homosexuals with big buttocks require a fluffed-up cotton ball placed against the anal opening, together with a pad to help absorb moisture throughout the day.(6) Medical advice for homosexuals with persistent soiling includes rectal wash-outs to remove residual feces from the anal canal after bowel movements.(6) This involves inserting an ear syringe into the rectum that is filled with warm water and coated with a water-soluble lubricant. Squeezing the syringe gently and repeatedly helps wash out any residual feces from the anal canal.

Frequent, especially prolonged anal sex often leaves tiny tears (anal fissures) around the anal opening. This prompts the internal anal sphincter to contract strongly, and makes it difficult for homosexuals to engage in receptive anal sex. To deal with anal fissures, homosexuals use butt plugs, which also effectively seal the anus. Some butt plugs are shaped like a penis,(8) others are rippled,(9) and some may have a multi-speed vibrating function.(10) Some butt plugs can approach 5 inches in diameter, and if this is not enough, then a vibrating butt plug which can be inflated to 10 inches across at its thickest is also available.(11) Some vibrating butt plugs also come with a remote control for homosexuals on the move,(11) and may feature a squirting capability too. Apparently, some homosexuals decide to simultaneously derive pleasure and function.

Butt plugs are not primarily intended for anal pleasure, but dildos, vibrators, and anal probes are. The proper tool for accommodating a penis after surgery for hemorrhoids is an anal dilator.(6) Some cases of anal incontinence are so severe, that people lose the ability to sense stool in their rectum and cannot prevent it from escaping. This calls for major lifestyle changes such as wearing diapers or in the extreme, going for a colostomy (a surgical procedure which results in bowel movements emptying in a pouch carried on the abdomen).(6)

The life of a number of homosexuals centers on the anus. Male homosexuals that behave more like girls as children have a marked preference for receptive anal intercourse,(12-14) and a less marked but significant preference for oral-anal sex (rimming).(13) In sex research involving homosexual men, the correct genitoerotic role distinction is not insertive vs. receptive behaviors, or even insertive vs. receptive anal intercourse, but receptive anal intercourse vs. all other behaviors.(13) The anus is so etched onto the minds of homosexuals that even mental illness does not prevent them from focusing on it. For instance, Ikeda et al. described the death of a 75-year-old man following the rectal insertion of a walking stick by a mentally ill homosexual.(15) As a result of repeated anorectal trauma and infections, the perianal region of several male homosexuals acquires a grotesque appearance,(16) yet few homosexuals desirous of insertive anal sex would be discouraged by the sight of such anuses.

Let us address the consequences of rimming. In third-world countries, the drinking water supply often gets contaminated with feces, resulting in a disease outbreak. Homosexuals, however, get feces directly from the source via rimming. Not surprisingly, the worms and microbes that occupy their digestive tracts span a good range of parasite diversity: Neisseria gonorrhea, herpes simplex virus, Chlamydia trachomatis, Treponema pallidum, Campylobacter jejuni, Campylobacter fetus fetus, Shigella flexneri, Entamoeba histolytica, Clostridium difficile, Giardia lamblia, and many others, including worms.(17-21) Consider some studies in this regard:

Among 180 patients consecutively seen at a venereal-disease clinic, 29 MSM (21.5% of homosexual clients and 6.2% of bisexual clients) but no women or heterosexual men had parasitic intestinal infections.(19) Interestingly, 17% of the heterosexuals in this sample had practiced rimming, yet were free of intestinal parasites.(19) Comparatively, 37% of the bisexuals and 75% of the homosexuals had practiced rimming. Therefore, the elevated incidence of intestinal parasites among homosexuals is not solely due to rimming, but is also a result of the fact that MSM function as a reservoir of intestinal parasites.(19, 22)
In a controlled study, 67.5% of 200 homosexual men and 16% of 100 heterosexual men had parasitic intestinal infections.(22) 27% of homosexual men and 1% of heterosexual men had E. histolytica, and 13% of homosexual men and 3% of heterosexual men had Giardia lamblia.(22) “The presence of symptoms could not be correlated with infection except when the infection was caused by more than one organism, including G. lamblia.”(22)
In an analysis of three fecal samples from 153 homosexual men and 119 patients with abdominal symptoms, 59.5% of the homosexuals had their intestines infected by a total of 198 protozoan species, whereas 31.9% of the patients had their intestines infected by a total of 51 protozoan species.(23)
In one study, 95 of 119 consecutively seen homosexual men with anorectal/intestinal symptoms and 29 (39%) of 75 randomly selected male homosexuals without gastrointestinal or anorectal symptoms were infected by pathogenic intestinal parasites.(17)
In another study of 101 male homosexuals without gastrointestinal symptoms, 27% had Entamoeba histolytica, 61% had nonpathogenic protozoa with or without E. histolytica, 36% had a nonpathogen alone, and 3% had Giardia lamblia.(18)
In an examination of 243 homosexual men without any gastrointestinal symptoms, about 12% were infected with at least one pathogenic intestinal parasite.(24)
Clearly, many homosexuals are ignorant of their intestinal infection status. Furthermore, abnormal rectal tissue structure is not uncommon among male homosexuals. In a study of rectal biopsy samples from homosexual men, 89 of whom had intestinal symptoms while 11 did not, 46% of the specimens from the symptomatic men and 27% from the asymptomatic men were abnormal; acute inflammation characterized 51% of the men with pathogens and 24% of those free of pathogens.(25)

In April, 2001, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) documented the first known sexually transmitted outbreak of typhoid fever in the United States. It occurred in summer, 2000.(26, 27) If it is a first, like AIDS, it should not come as a surprise that the outbreak was documented among male homosexuals. A homosexual man spread typhoid to 7 others residing in Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana. The men were uncooperative with health officials, making it impossible to estimate how many other men might have been exposed.(26, 27) Typhoid is rare; about 400 cases are reported annually in the U.S., 80% of which can be traced to overseas travel.(26, 27) Typhoid transmission typically occurs via consumption of food and water contaminated with human feces. None of the infected homosexuals had shared either food or drink.(26, 27) The mode of transmission needs no comment.

In a nutshell, “Four general groups of conditions may be encountered in homosexually active men: classical sexually transmitted diseases (gonorrhea, infections with Chlamydia trachomatis, syphilis, herpes simplex infections, genital warts, pubic lice, scabies); enteric diseases (infections with Shigella species, Campylobacter jejuni, Entamoeba histolytica, Giardia lamblia, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, hepatitis non-A, non-B, and cytomegalovirus); trauma (fecal incontinence, hemorrhoids, anal fissure, foreign bodies, rectosigmoid tears, allergic proctitis, penile edema, chemical sinusitis, inhaled nitrite burns, and sexual assault of the male patient); and the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS).”(28)

See the picture below for one consequence of anal eroticism
 
Huh? Is this saying that Gay men get that more? If so, I haven't... It seems to be speculation.
 
Didn't I see "1976" findings from some study? That is so 33 years ago and certainly we have much more sophisicated information than back then.
 
The truth is somewhere in between. And it's a time period that is difficult to understand for those who were not around in the period from 1950-1980.

If you back in Victorian literature, you'll find a lot of information about primary, secondary and tertiary syphilis. You read this information now and it seems strange and archaic because no one ever sees untreated syphilis anymore.

If you go back to the 1970s, you'll find a lot of information about STDs in the gay population of urban areas like San Francisco and New York City. It was rampant in a population of men who were fairly promiscous.

It's important to understand that in these times, homosexuality was still not accepted by society. Long-term same sex relationships were not encouraged by gay culture or the society at large. So, the choices were limited and many people elected to have anonymous sex with different partners (or groups of partners).

With the exception of a few sex-destructive tweakers and barebackers, that's pretty much in the past.

There's a documentary that talks about those times in NYC and on Fire Island. It's the prequel to what happened in the early 1980s when many of these men were among the first AIDS cases in the US. It's [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Gay-Sex-70s-Robert-Alvarez/dp/B000F0UUMS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1239319001&sr=1-1"]Gay Sex in the 70s[/ame] and it's a pretty interesting documentary of the historical past.


There's not anything that we call "Gay Bowel Syndrome" these days.

If you continue searching around the internet, you'll find the old Victorian syphilis stuff and other archaic stuff that is very sex-negative.

Of you can actually get out there and date and have the mundane sex life that most of us have. Personally, I think you'd be better served with the latter option.
 
Having reviewed the source site for this rather extensive initial quote, allow me to point out that the author(s) of that site appears to be somewhat hostile toward the gay community. There is a vague claim of scientific method in his “studies,” but the data upon which he draws conclusions are predominantly from small or non-random samples and therefore statistically dubious.

To illustrate this apparent bias; one of the studies cited in the opening quote implies a significant risk of parasitic intestinal infections among gay and bisexual men. The figures quoted are supported by two footnotes. One of those merely describes how amoebae samples isolated from gay men were tested for enzymes associated with disease. In that study none of the isolates were identified as known pathogens (disease causing).
… the stocks of amoebae isolated from male homosexuals were characterised into zymodemes. No amoebic stock isolated corresponded to a pathogenic zymodeme. [Link]

The other footnote describes a study conducted almost three decades ago – before AIDS and the need for “safer sex” was known or publicized. Interestingly, the author’s quote from this source fails to mention that the incidence of parasitic infections in that particular study showed identical results among straight men and bisexual men. It should be fairly obvious that rimming exposes the partner performing that activity to any problem-causing-germs the receiving partner may carry and that are typically transmitted via the fecal-oral route. These can include various bacteria, viruses, or parasites. It is worthy to note that many of these same critters can be acquired through oral-genital contact between male and female, or in other non-sexual ways.

Some of the germs that the source mentions, such as hepatitis A and Shigella, typically result in a relatively acute phase of illness fairly soon after initial exposure. It is therefore rather unlikely that a person infected with one of those germs would remain unaware of the resulting illness for long. A number of the other germs may or may not result in immediate or obvious symptoms, such as hepatitis B, hepatitis C [non-A, non-B], Campylobacter, Gonorrhea, Herpes, and Syphilis. Nonetheless, after exposure to many of these germs there are often fairly obvious indications that something is wrong, which the infected person may initially fail to recognize. Because of this lack of awareness, some infections may go untreated for a period of time and can therefore be communicated to others. It is also true that some germs can be substantially innocuous. For example, many people are infected with Cytomegalovirus and have no clue of its presence. In yet other cases, using your eyeballs can readily identify problems, such as genital warts, pubic lice, or open lesions.

To address the underlying question in the opening post, I think the risk of acquiring one or more of these pathological conditions is somewhat skewed and oversimplified in the quoted source. That is not to say that risks should be ignored, but that we should all be aware of the need for safer sex practices, recognize and follow up on symptoms that may indicate a personal health problem, and be diligent whenever engaging in specific behaviors that are known to be risky.
 
Well my main question was about the "Gay Bowel Syndrome". Not to be gross but is this a problem later on for gays? Does having anal weaken the muscle of the anus?
 
I acted like a girl when I was younger, and I detest all kinds of anal sex (insertive, receptive, analingus), so these things certainly aren't a hard and fast rule.
 
Also consider that there are a lot of gay guys that don't do anal intercourse, and a lot of straight guys that do anal intercourse ... with their girls.

It's not a gay or straight thing ... it's a butt secks thing. ;)
 
But lets say you are a vers guy and in a relationship with a long term partner. Will taking it up the rear for several years have bad effects on that muscle in your rear? This is what I would like to know from maybe some older guys?
 
I am a single guy 28 (never had "sex" with a guy before-just experiment). I am not posting this to gross anyone out but I just want some answers for myself on this article below. Is it true that guys who bottom have "issues" later on (see below)?


Butt Fucking is a Universal Sex act...Straights and Gays have been doing it since the biblical days...If you have a Fear of sexual intercourse with another male then don't do it...Your experimentation is probably all you needed, try spending your time Focusing on a relationship with a single young woman...If you have to LOOK and SEARCH for articles to validate "Fucking" then trust me Dude, it's not for you......Always trust your instincts...
 
Butt Fucking is a Universal Sex act...Straights and Gays have been doing it since the biblical days...If you have a Fear of sexual intercourse with another male then don't do it...Your experimentation is probably all you needed, try spending your time Focusing on a relationship with a single young woman...If you have to LOOK and SEARCH for articles to validate "Fucking" then trust me Dude, it's not for you......Always trust your instincts...

Its not "fear" its just wondering if there is consequences later on for it. I prefer being with guys but if it means my asshole is going to be screwed up later on in life then thats something I want to take into consideration.
 
To directly answer your question, No. Unless for most of every day you're hard at work down there with farm equipment, then you have nothing to worry about.

Others have mentioned the issue concerning the date on which that article was written, so I don't need to remind you of the medical bias against everything homosexual at that time. It's far too easy to create the illusion of empirical data - all a doctor would have to do to "prove" homosexuals are more prone to disease is look for homosexuals with diseases, then compare them to healthy straight people. Stuff like that was par for the course at the time.

One more thing on that, though: they're full of shit when they say that homosexuals were the first known cases of HIV. They still haven't mapped HIV's history, but the most likely candidates for first known cases would be those working directly with the animals in which the human mutation first occurred - those would be primates. I've seen plenty of self-proclaimed bears, even pigs, and I applaud them if that's their style...but chimps though, not so much.

Any number of people of every orientation developed AIDS in the late seventies and early eighties, it was just too much of a gold mine not to pin it on the gay community, for both the homophobic (that was damn near everybody to begin with) population as well as the media, which did a cracker-jack job with that story.

Honestly, though, protect yourself during sex just as anyone should, have yourself tested - for your partner(s)' sake if not your own, and dude...trust me:

Get out there and enjoy yourself, find a sweet boy or man that treats you well, or just (safely) fool around if that's what you feel like. Fear already controls the daily lives of far too many of us as it is. Sex is great, love is beautiful - neither of which comes without your being comfortable in your own skin.

Happy hunting. ;)
 
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