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This is it...I guess. Before I'll start, I want to apologize for my poor English. I realize, that it's gonna be kinda hard to comunicate with you guys beacuse, like I've said - my English is bad, but I'll try anyway.

I'm from Poland, 24 yo.( My family lives in States though and I'm there from time to time). The nickname, I believe, is kinda obvious. I'm a Donnie Darko, the movie, fan.

I also like all kinds of different stuff, good music, good food, playing tennis (retired pro here!), Coca Cola is my another love, and of course - my friends.

But, there's something that is bothering me and I want you guys to help me out. First things first though. Where should I start my story? Is this the right place or should i move to another section/thread? Kinda lost about me and the things that I really want to do in my life. Anyone?

If anyone's interested, I can also send a picture via PM, beacuse it's nice to know who are you talking to, it can be helpful also beacuse I'm a newbie here.

Cheers!
 
Your English is very good, no problem with communication. Just don't ask me to understand Polish, I don't know a single word.

Post your story here, if it is in the wrong place the moderators will move it for you.
 
Kinda lost? Ain't we all? Well, perhaps some lucky guys are not...
So what's bugging you?
 
Hey,
thanks for your warm welcome and for complementing my language skills. However, I must warn you, that it's getting worse whenever I try to talk about complicated stuff, not to mention any attempt(s) to explain my issues, but I'll do it. Just give me some time, it's been a long day at work.

It's such a pleasure to be a part of this huge community. I haven't got any time to really read all the sections here, but for sure, it's a big place and from what I've seen, filled with cool people. Hope to talk to you soon.
D.
 
As everyone has said welcome to jub,if you just take your time mate i think that
you will be fine.
I dont live in the states i am from Edinburgh in Scotland wgere we have a huge
Polish community and you guys have brought some great polish traditions,including some fantastic food all i can say is welcome to a worldwide community and enjoy yourself at your leisure take care, ..|
 
WELCOME to JUB Donnie!

This is a great site with lots of great guys willing to share their experiences and to give you lots of opinions. Just jump in and start posting. We will get to know you.
 
Where do I start...
First of all, I've never been with a guy. Never did anything with guys. Never been in love with a guy. I've got a best friend, he's straight and I love him to death, but not in that way. Not at all.

I've only been with few girls. Had a girlfriend few years ago, but it didn't work out, but it wasn't due to my suspicion that I might be gay or something. It just didn't work out for us. I have never been in a long term relationship. My longest is 8 months. I was always attracted to girls, sex was great. For now, it's changing, I'm not that sure if I wanna have sex with women again.

However, something's not right, big time. For the past few years I've been addicted to gay porn, gay movies (like Shelter or Latter Days - I really liked the movies and could relate to the characters, so it's not only physical), I'm often turned on just by looking at some random guys on the internet, not so much in the real world though. Maybe it's beacuse I'm scared or more reserved - I don't know. And to be clear - I'm not afraid of the thought that I might be gay, I'm just not sure if that's the case and as far as I'm concerned, the best way to prove it, is to hook up with some guy, right? This is where the problem starts. I'm not brave enough. There was this guy that I met via some dating site. We talked, we shared pictures etc. Then one day we decided to meet, but just minutes before our planned meeting, I failed and never met the guy. I was literally shaking out of stress.

This is pretty much the whole story. What should I do? Is this a common case? Is there something wrong with me? I believe that if I was sure about me being gay, I would just make a move, but I'm hesitating all the time. And I know that if I decide to make a move, I would have to live in a lie, for while at least. I can't imagine telling my friend(s) and family that there's something, like this, going on. Maybe that's what's holding me down?
 
Wow -- that is a difficult dilemma to be in...

I cannot imagine being so afraid of meeting someone that you were planning on having fun with that you would literally be shaking with stress....

Its supposed to be fun -- right???

Maybe there is a guy on that dating website that would actually take the time to communicate with you long enough before meeting face to face to where your comfort level would be better???

Are you brave enough to go to a gay bar and chat it up with the other patrons??? Don't add the extra stress of trying to hook up -- just go to talk and be friendly...

Its unfortunate that society's make it difficult to talk about sex with your family and friends -- because I agree that it would be easier if you felt comfortable doing that -- but I complete understand where you are coming from and would suggest actually making sure of your sexuality before making any proclomations...

I do have to admit to you that I am NOT the best person to try and answer questions like this -- I just thought I'd throw out a few ideas...

Hopefully someone that is WAY SMARTER about this kind of thing will address your situation...

One question though -- if you actually know the answer...

Why is it that you don't think you ever want to have sex with women again???
 
I want to add my welcome to the others here. Are you currently in Poland or the US? I am of Polish ancestry and have visited Poland several times. I'm sorry to say that I don't speak the language except for some swear words.

From the way you are expressing your fear I'd say you are experiencing homophobia from family and friends. That is not surprising. With the twin brothers running Poland the government itself was homophobic.

I don't know where your parents live in the States, but the States would be a good place to meet some gay people. Coming out is an individual thing that you ought to control. Safety first.

I'd like you to send me a private message if you'd like. I'm glad you found JUB. I'm glad that you admit to being scared. I felt that too when I was coming out.

I think, for a start, some gay American friends would be helpful. I say American only because you said you travel here.

You are going to have to heal from the wrong messages you received from family, friends, church and state. I know it's possible because I did it. Obviously, it was easier for me being in the US, but people anywhere can have similar issues depending upon circumstance and personality.

You may not know us but there are thousands of people who could relate to your struggle. I am so happy you reached out. Wszystko będzie dobrze. (I hope this says everything will be alright. I used a translator).
 
Welcome to JUB. Congrats on your first post.

There are some guys who get naked with another guy and everything just falls into place.

But it sounds like you might need to move a little slower.

Do you live in an area where you can get out and meet some gay people and make some friends? It's much easier to go the coming out process when you're not doing it alone. And somehow, being around people who are comfortable with being gay makes it easier for you to do the same.
 
Welcome to JUB, Donnie. Your English is fantastic! Not to worry!

It's easy to get gratification from porn. It's a bit more difficult to develop a meaningful relationship with porn. You need the interaction that you can only get from another human being. You aren't really comfortable with who you are, so you settle for porn. Your not open about your sexuality are you?

I'm not really familiar with Polish culture. Are you in a large urban area where there are other gay people? What about your folks? Would they be accepting? Are you out to them? To anybody?

I'm guessing the root to your problem is simply the lack of experience, that's all. Think back to the first time you were with a girl. It was just as nerve wracking. Wasn't it? As you become more comfortable with who you are, you will become more comfortable in your life.
 
Wow, such a great response to my thread. Thanks guys.
Now, let me try to deal with it. To answer all of your advices, questions and suggestions, I would have to use the right tools, such as quoting many people in one post and other magic tricks that I'm not that familiar with yet. So I'll just try to do it in my own way and later will figure out how to do it properly.

swerve
Wow -- that is a difficult dilemma to be in...

I cannot imagine being so afraid of meeting someone that you were planning on having fun with that you would literally be shaking with stress....

Its supposed to be fun -- right???
Why is it that you don't think you ever want to have sex with women again???
Yup, that's indeed quite a dilemma. It's supposed to be fun, yeah. The guy that I was in contact with, was nice, handsome, smart and he was patient. As a matter of fact, he still is and he's still asking if he should wait. So basically this is still fixable.

Gay bar? Sure. As long as it doesn't require being concrete or take serious actions towards other guy, I don't mind it. As long as I'm anonymous...

I know, that I wont make any move that would get me closer to coming out before I'm absolutely sure about my sexuality. That's for sure.

About women - for some reason that I honestly cant explain, they just aren't that attractive for me anymore. As weird as it sounds(for me at least), it's true.

And please, don't put yourself down, every single post in this thread is important for me. It's a new beginning and I have to be guided through each step that I take .
soreknees
From the way you are expressing your fear I'd say you are experiencing homophobia from family and friends. That is not surprising. With the twin brothers running Poland the government itself was homophobic.
You are going to have to heal from the wrong messages you received from family, friends, church and state. I know it's possible because I did it. Obviously, it was easier for me being in the US, but people anywhere can have similar issues depending upon circumstance and personality.

You may not know us but there are thousands of people who could relate to your struggle. I am so happy you reached out.
Homophobia? Well, I'm not that sure. My friends are open minded. It's just that indeed, I'm scared about my friends' reaction, but I'm more scared about making that first move and possible meeting face to face, not to mention any physical interaction.

I'm in States once per year, sometimes less. I even thought about moving there, but I'm very much attached to my family and the very special group of my friends. We are very close and I can't imagine leaving them. Obviously, I agree about everything that you've said - twin brothers were awful (the tragic plane accident actually kind of saved us, beacuse Poland was going into a wrong direction, very wrong), but now that they're gone, it's gettin better and better each day.

I'm willing to talk as much as I can, in every possible way. So we can exchange PM's if you like.

KaraBulut
There are some guys who get naked with another guy and everything just falls into place.

But it sounds like you might need to move a little slower.

Do you live in an area where you can get out and meet some gay people and make some friends? It's much easier to go the coming out process when you're not doing it alone. And somehow, being around people who are comfortable with being gay makes it easier for you to do the same.

Oh how I would want that to happen - to get naked infront of another guy and to be comfortable with it and from then, everything should be coming naturally.

Well, my city isn't the biggest, but it's big enough to meet gay people, we have few gay clubs and organisations. The latter one isn't my thing, but as I've said previously, the idea of me going out to a gay club isn't that scary, and just have to give it a try and let things go with the flow ( correclty used??;) )

jackoroe
Your English is fantastic! Not to worry!

It's easy to get gratification from porn. It's a bit more difficult to develop a meaningful relationship with porn. You need the interaction that you can only get from another human being. You aren't really comfortable with who you are, so you settle for porn. Your not open about your sexuality are you?

I'm not really familiar with Polish culture. Are you in a large urban area where there are other gay people? What about your folks? Would they be accepting? Are you out to them? To anybody?

I'm guessing the root to your problem is simply the lack of experience, that's all. Think back to the first time you were with a girl. It was just as nerve wracking. Wasn't it? As you become more comfortable with who you are, you will become more comfortable in your life.

Am I open about my sexuality? In my own mind, I can admit that I'm gay and basically I'm starting to be cool with it. However, it's far from "being open" about it to other people. I have to be sure that I'm gay, it's impossible without making any move and at this point, checking this out, is the main issue. It's like Wall Of China for me.

So, I'm not out to anybody. I'm all alone with it. But no need to worry - I'm a happy guy, living good life. I just want to resolve this thing and be even more happy.

My folks...Dad lives in USA - he would be pissed, but he would get over it. He's cool. My mom - she would have more difficulties, but eventually, she would also understand, she loves me to death and I love her. I don't see her cutting me off just beacuse I'm gay.

The last line you wrote, really gave me lots of courage. I guess you're right.

Thanks guys once again. I really appreciate it.
You know, the worst thing is that I want to be with someone. Evenings and nights are the worst. When I'm with my friends it's all cool, we're hanging out, it's great, but then we all come back to our flats and mine is empty. Every night. It's just sad.

Again, thanks for complementing my English, I was really afraid that it's not good enough to post in a place like this.

Your patience and wisdom is greater than I could wish for. Thanks alot!
D.
 
This message will be a mess, I'm on a HUGE hangover! Forgive me my English.

Ok, so it's been few weeks since last posts and finally, after all these years of hesitating, I was able to really meet with somebody;) As I've said earlier, I met this guy - he's out of this world, very handsome, 20 yo, pure perfection. So we decided to to hook up, but when I was going to the meeting, I panicked and called it off.

After few weeks, I realized that there's really not that much to lose and everything to gain, I mean, it's my life we're talking about here. I'm 25 and never been with a guy, so it was about time I guess.

I smsed him, he said ok, let's get together. I was at a (work)dinner in a hotel, already drank some wine. He picked me up and we went to his place. At first it was kinda akward, but we managed to get through that, with a little bit of help - beer drinking (my head and stomach hurt, but it was worth it). So we talked, laughed and it was quite long, beacuse I stayed there for almost 5 hours! LOL. It was getting late and I was waisted, so he said he's gonna walk me home. So we went through the snow,the distance is about 3 miles, but it felt like 100 meters. Guess what I'm trying to say, is that I feel great right now, it was well worth it, all the stress before. And we both said that we'll give it a try and we're meeting today also. Altough I should probably stay away from alcohol, it's killing me right now!

That's it.

Once again, sorry for my poor English.
D.
 
Congrats and glad things went well.

The first meeting took a little "liquid courage", as it often does. Now that you know that the two of you have a connection, the next time you should be able meet up when you're sober. :D
 
great to hear you were finally able to meet someone :)

about the issue... are you sure this has anything to do with being gay? lots of straight guys have trouble the first few times they talk to girls too. it could just be normal anxiety because meeting guys is new for you
 
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congratulations on meeting such a nice fellow. just take your time and don't rush things.

Happy Holidays and a Happy and Healthy New Year.

your English is just fine. keep up the good work.

:wave:

eM.#-o
 
Happy to hear things worked out for you. There's no hurry to have sex if you're not ready. Keep us updated ;)
 
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