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Madama Butterfly returns

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From Jan 24 to Feb 16th, this opera returns to the Four Seasons centre in Toronto.

We have a history...this opera and I.

It was one of the operas I bought on vinyl as a teenager.

The first time I was going to see it, I got sick and my seat (back in the Gods) probably went empty.

The next time, it was cancelled and replaced because of God knows what.

The next time...we snagged primo seats in the front row of the first balcony centre where it was being performed, but I was travelling all over Onterio working and by the time Friday night rolled around and the lights went down, cultural narcolepsy hit me and I passed out for most of it.

That was probably 30 years ago now. And I haven't taken a crack at seeing it since.

Do you have a favourite opera or opera composer?


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I'm a bit of a philistine when it comes to opera. Even when it's sung in English, it just sounds like an incomprehensible lot of screeching.

The nearest I can get to opera is Gilbert and Sullivan. I saw The Sorcerer a few years ago in Buxton and enjoyed that.
 
Omg . . . so many wonderful memories of going to the local opera house in my college days.

My favorite remains Puccini's "Tosca" - it was a fun experience with a great opera house crowd that night!

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I'm a bit of a philistine when it comes to opera. Even when it's sung in English, it just sounds like an incomprehensible lot of screeching.

The nearest I can get to opera is Gilbert and Sullivan. I saw The Sorcerer a few years ago in Buxton and enjoyed that.
I agree.

The nearest I can get to opera is Bohemian Rhapsody.
 
My all-time favourite opera is Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen, particularly Gotterdammerung, and especially the final scene.

Sadly, the only Wagner music drama that I have ever seen live was Parsifal way back in the mid 80s. The singing was excellent, but the staging was minimalist shite.

As far as Puccini, I've seen Madame Butterfly, La Boheme, and Tosca. Great performances.

I pretty much love most opera, from Peri up to about the 1950s. I adore Rossini, Bellini, Donizetti, Verdi, and the rest of those 'canary fancier' composers. Also, Handel's 'Italian-style' operas are great, as is pretty much everything by Mozart.

But I'm a total philistine though where modern opera is concerned; I like great tunes, beautiful singing, and epic scenes, not atonal orchestral meanderings and tuneless wailing..
 
We have lot of opera on 78 disc, it's great to hear the renditions from 80 and 100 years ago but that's in 4 minutes a side chunks. To actualy put on a penguin outfit and sit in a theatre all the way through the show would be too much like an endurance test, apart from anything else I wouldn't be able to go that long without a piss.
 
Madama Butterfly is a beautiful show, though I think I prefer the play Miss Siagon.



So far my favorite opera is Rusalka by Dvorak.
 
I've been to quite a number of Met HD broadcasts to theaters in the last couple of years. This is a wonderful way to experience the Metropolitan Opera if you can't be there is person. The sound is excellent and the camera work top-notch. It is something worth investigating.

The Met seems to have taken this turn of putting some classic operas in anachronistic settings and not doing a very good job of it. Last year, they did Carmen in a migrant detention camp. It was stupid. They had Carmen sitting on top of a car. I guess they think putting the opera in some modernistic setting brings in a younger audience. I think it looks totally out of place. They did Lohengrin in some sort of surrealistic something or other setting that made no sense. I'm avoiding those for now. Not all of them are like that, though. Tosca was in an appropriate setting. But if you like it, you should try the HD broadcast.
 
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Better than last December's Carmen in Naples set in an automobile repair shop with a car suspended above the stage. My partner and I were in Rome at the time--he had tickets for the premier but decided at the last moment to stay in Rome. When he saw the reviews the next day he was happy he inadvertently spared himself the misery of attending the performance.

A few years ago LA Opera brought a production of La Bohème from Covent Garden in London. The second scene takes place on Christmas Eve in a café in Paris. The libretto and music are light-hearted and fun, but the idiot director--a gay Australian--placed the café next to a Vespasienne--a public urinal--where actresses portraying prostutitutes simulated giving fellatio to their customer, and the joyous and innocent children's chorus was sung by children portrayed as zombies dressed in rags. At the close of the act I booed and thought I'd be joined by others, but there was only silence.

Earlier this month my partner and I attended a performance of The Tales of Hoffmann by Jacques Offenbach which was rewritten by its (again) gay director to (again) subvert the plot and libretto. It was no surprise that in the final scene Hoffmann's nemisis appears in drag.

I could go on, but you get the idea. While there are certainly many superb productions--I saw a great Andrea Chénier in London last spring--there are way too many in which the work is obscured by producers and directors who have decided to reinterpret works in subversive ways.
 
I haven't been to an opera performance in years. My first was Les pecheurs des perles by Bizet at City Opera in NYC. I used to go to the New Jersey State Opera in Newark often. And I saw Leontyne Price in  Aida in San Francisco!
 
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Better than last December's Carmen in Naples set in an automobile repair shop with a car suspended above the stage. My partner and I were in Rome at the time--he had tickets for the premier but decided at the last moment to stay in Rome. When he saw the reviews the next day he was happy he inadvertently spared himself the misery of attending the performance.

A few years ago LA Opera brought a production of La Bohème from Covent Garden in London. The second scene takes place on Christmas Eve in a café in Paris. The libretto and music are light-hearted and fun, but the idiot director--a gay Australian--placed the café next to a Vespasienne--a public urinal--where actresses portraying prostutitutes simulated giving fellatio to their customer, and the joyous and innocent children's chorus was sung by children portrayed as zombies dressed in rags. At the close of the act I booed and thought I'd be joined by others, but there was only silence.

Earlier this month my partner and I attended a performance of The Tales of Hoffmann by Jacques Offenbach which was rewritten by its (again) gay director to (again) subvert the plot and libretto. It was no surprise that in the final scene Hoffmann's nemisis appears in drag.

I could go on, but you get the idea. While there are certainly many superb productions--I saw a great Andrea Chénier in London last spring--there are way too many in which the work is obscured by producers and directors who have decided to reinterpret works in subversive ways.
I can't say I have a single favorite, but I've only had the opportunity to see live opera a handful of times, and one standing in the back at a sold-out showing at the Kennedy Center.

For me, after studying vocal music in college, and singing some light modern opera, there's inherently an academic exercise element at work, unlike many other musical genres. Staging and sets have a huge effect on the production. When done badly, they can prevent the music from being transcendent.

But, when casting, costume, lighting, and orchestra are all on point, the form is indeed the apex of productions and do thrill. Agree with Latimer that reinterpretations are often a sign of decay and the longevity of the genre having run out of new directions for old material, but I have seen a few exceptions that were laudable. I remember a German staging of Elecktra. I cannot say the music inspired, but it was compelling and it did vivify the ancient Greek into a more psychological and more human story.

The other was not opera, but a staging of MacBeth that was British and reset the setting to modern day and transformed MacBeth into a sous chef, complete with ambitious scheming wife. The script was left intact. The Weird Sisters became a garbage truck crew sitting in the cab looking out over a dump, which oddly worked. The rest of the plotting and conflict worked well in an executive chef's work with greed and fame. It was remarkably entertaining, with no sarcasm in that statement.

An exceptionally bad modernizatiton was a few decades ago when I went to see "O" in 2001. I made the mistake of taking my next door neighbor, which just amplified the fail. It was a ghetto-ization of the tale, which was completely without the original script and was little more than a gangsta flick without any of the grand scale of Iago's and Othtello's respective tragedies. It was so loosely based that it really seemed more of a publicity stunt ot claim it was Othello retold.
 
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