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If 2 people want each other and actually love each other should age matter? I mean I am an older guy who by accident fell in love with a much younger guy who believe it or not initiated it all. I am old enough to be his father but he has no real friends and his family life sucks. I befriended him by what I'd call force and the next thing I know we are friends, brothers, father/son, family, and lovers all rolled up into one. Is this good, bad, or what? I love the guy and really want to be there for him the rest of my natural life and have yet to make a promise that I won't keep. I even considered partial adoption or some form of guardianship to protect he and I in the future. (Marriage is not safe enough as yet). (*8*)

Well, normally, I'd say the age shouldn't matter if both are adults and mature (mature being the key word). However, you have thrown a lot of other things into the mix here.
What does befriending him by force mean? Is he turning to you because he loves you or out of some need for a father/friend/whatever? How old is he that you would consider adoption? It sounds like there is more to this story than we are hearing.
 
I agree with sixthson. If you are sincerely looking for a discussion on this you have to give us more than you have . Were here to have an open discussion, but need your honesty also.
 
Well, that's a complicated situation, cause strange and different feeling are confused. If you are totally, absolutly and completly sure, that you don't feel nothing fisically about him, and you only see him like family (nephew, son, brother, whatever...) and really his family life sucks, so... protect him, however if you have dudes about your feelings, first you should't "be" (more than friends) together. Second If you love him, til he 'll be the correct age, wait and confort him, then you could do, more or less, whatever you want...!!!
 
I didn't mean that you force or something like this, if your love is pure, i'm happy for you because it doesn't happen usually lately (or to me :(). I mean The law is there and.... you know. I'll be glad if you tell me how your relationship grow up...!
 
A thought:
* age does not matter, but the issues that may come up do.

hmm read my thread if you like. I'm on the other end, but a word of caution: what you have sounds and may be different: http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158308

In my case at first I just wanted to stay friends with the older guy, not lovers. I communicated this over and over again, but it was in one ear and out the other for him, and somehow eventually we got together.

Now I feel I'm tired, depressed and it may not be connected to the relationship entirely, so don't go by me but go by the thought above (next to the bullet-point).

One issue my partner had to deal with is not to be like my dad. He took control over that with the help of counseling, and he is not my dad, we are "equal" as equal as we can be, but there were some issues, like:
* he cannot relate to my problems or issues. Something that's big for me is small or not an issue for him. Through life experiences he's been through some rough stuff, so when a problem comes up for me, I can't go to him an expect him to relate. He just pushes it back on me and and that's frustrating. He tried to relate more sometimes and when he does, I go "wow what happened to you ?? You are so nice all of a sudden" but then he's back to not relating again as it's not in him. He says go talk to someone else.
* he is more experienced than me and I can get a lot of answers quickly where normally I would have to figure things out by myself. Can be good and bad thing, depending on how you look at it. i.e. I get answers quickly but then I don't learn them by myself. So I tend to have a lot of theory but lack of practice.
* I feel he took my youth and younger years without letting me have a chance to go on the prowl. And I want to go on the prowl. It could be a sign of our relationship have gone sour, but it has been an issue for me all throghout the relationship, expressed by me as "I got together with you too quickly, I have not had a chance to play with the boys". He wants to keep me to himself of course and settle down and I feel regrets and not having played with more boys, boys my age or so. If he'd let me and push me to play and get that out of my system, maybe things would be different now. (I don't know if I'd still be with him though, but why not I guess)
* There were times when I felt uncomfortable or didn't want to be with him and I told him, but he never actually heard me. I call it selective hearing. He says I knew better and needed to act on it, but I feel I did not know better and I didn't always have the strength or courage to act on my feelings. I didn't and still don't speak up for myself or act. Some can say it is really my issue and it is, but it'd be great if he sat me down and asked me what it is I really want and let me have it even if it meant breaking up. Like me being on the prowl for some time. But generally things don't work that way as people think of themselves and he's selfish (wants to keep me to himself, which is understandable) so he hasn't done so. We did open our relationship up for 2 months recently, but that took me 8 years to get that out of him. That's damn too long. But we are still together for all that counts.
* I resent my partner when he tells me what to do (could be connected to father/son issue), and when he tries not to tell me what to do, I don't do anything. Kinda lose/lose situation.

So there. I don't know much about your situation, but I may venture to suggest removing father/son from the relationship as much as you can as I think father/son will tend to create more issues. As for guardianship .. I don't know. It will tend to strengthen the father/son image and I don't know if it will help your relationship. This one is a bit outside of my jurisdiction and I would say more details are needed and maybe someone who's done this before. I can say that at times I resent my partner telling me what to do, even that he's not like my dad.

My parents got divorced, so in a way he may have filled the dad void at first, but he was definitely not my dad. He was more like an adult friend at first, and then lover lover. When I first met him, I also needed to get out of my house, I was gay, and he filled a lot of things for me at that time by providing a place to stay with him, providing financial stability and letting me be gay without hiding it. He was older, more experienced and pretty much drama free compared to some teen guys I know. Now I feel that things may not be working out as well as they did then. Maybe it's a new stage for me and I need to break it up, or maybe we can still reconcile our differences, but I dunno.

So that's what I have so far, and refer back to the first bullet point.
 
KJ...how old is the young man? Maybe if we know he is legal age, we would give you better responses. Otherwise, I would not encourage relationship of any kinds until he reached legal age.
 
The adoption is just a substitute for marraige to give the partners some legal rights. It has nothing to do with age. My ex and I discussed it and we were both in out late thirties#-o
 
He seems to think I am his sex toy whenever he wants sex and even if he decides to be with others that I should be there just in case he needs a piece of easy ass. I love him, protect him, teach him, feed and clothe him and yet somehow somewhere we ended up in bed a lot.

Maybe sex is the only thing he can give you back in return for all the nice things you've done for him? Like most people have said age doesn't really matter if your in love but you probably both think differently. He is still young and in his prime while you are mature and know what you want. I don't mean to be so forward but if you have feelings for him and have a father/son friendship, that is not right. Talk to him and straighten out what you two are together. Just be careful you keep your feelings away from the father/son friendship that you may have with him.
 
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