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Is this not just a slimmed down laptop without a hard drive and fewer inputs? I'm not sure I get the point? It doesn't look like you could do any "real work" on it. But then I think the same thing applies to the iPAD as well.

Thoughts about this little gizmo?
 
There have already been tablets available that have sliding or folding qwerty keyboards. So what am I missing here where this is such a big deal? A guy at work was recently showing me his, I believe it was made by Asus.
 
I would not jump on the wagon just because of Microsoft's track record with hardware.

Remember when they announced Zune they said they were in it for the long haul...
 
A few things worth noting to me:
1. Tablets should be about the screen and the ability to hold it with one hand and operate it with the other
2. If that keyboard attachment is needed then this truly is a netbook with a touchscreen. I don't get it at all. Windows 8 is supposed to be optimized for a touchscreen, WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU THEN PUT A PHYSICAL KEYBOARD AND TRACKPAD ON A W8 TABLET??? Either MS is unsure they succeeded with W8 or they really didn't think about it.

It is true, the work that one can do on any tablet is limited. Screens are small, keyboards are small, very little multitasking ability, ect. Having said that though, I think MS is moving in the right direction by offering a full operating system on the tablet. Hopefully Apple and Google will take note and beef of their mobile OSs into something more desktop like (OSX for example).
 
cityboy-stl said:
It doesn't look like you could do any "real work" on it. But then I think the same thing applies to the iPAD as well.
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Exactly my point for any tablet. There are quite a few good uses for them in .. for example a business or even a production line. You can also surf from your couch a bit. But just for this as a home use it's way overpriced. And for everything else it's not productive.

They keyboard here (which is optional) helps at least a bit.

Apart from that .. it's basically a Tablet PC - again.

Oh .. and about MS Hardware - it's actually surprising good most of the time. It's just the platform that is the problem ;)
 
I saw the announcement of these a few days ago, and people on another forum I frequent (tech-centered) all seem very positive about Surface, and I share in their excitement.

The keyboard is detachable, and without the keyboard, the tablet works well just like an iPad or Android tablet, or the really old school slate Tablet PC models (wow, was that almost ten years ago?). The keyboard attachment is what makes the Surface capable of producing. iPads have a keyboard for the same exact reason. I believe these devices are made primarily for consumption (book reading, videos, movies, simple web browsing) but the hardware is capable of having the user create things as well.

The tablet comes in two forms - an ARM version and x86 version. The ARM version has basically the same processor as a phone, and x86 uses the same processor found in desktop and notebook computers. However, Windows 8 and Microsoft's new Metro style apps that they and other third-party developers make are able to run on both versions. The ARM version will also have Microsoft Office included.

Windows 8 includes integration with Microsoft Accounts and SkyDrive cloud storage, so documents you edit on the surface can be synchronized and edited on any other computer or phone that has SkyDrive enabled. I use OneNote on my desktop to make a shopping list, and then when I'm at the store, I pull it up on my phone - no manual synchronization required. Quite nice.

As a developer, I will most likely get the x86 version in order to help with developing and testing apps.
 
It'll sell well for people who wanted an iPad but couldn't justify getting one because they're not productive enough. If this came out before I snatched the new iPad I would've considered it.
 
pilotguy121a said:
A few things worth noting to me:
1. Tablets should be about the screen and the ability to hold it with one hand and operate it with the other
2. If that keyboard attachment is needed then this truly is a netbook with a touchscreen. I don't get it at all. Windows 8 is supposed to be optimized for a touchscreen, WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU THEN PUT A PHYSICAL KEYBOARD AND TRACKPAD ON A W8 TABLET??? Either MS is unsure they succeeded with W8 or they really didn't think about it.

It is true, the work that one can do on any tablet is limited. Screens are small, keyboards are small, very little multitasking ability, ect. Having said that though, I think MS is moving in the right direction by offering a full operating system on the tablet. Hopefully Apple and Google will take note and beef of their mobile OSs into something more desktop like (OSX for example).
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The keyboard is actually also the smart cover. Just like the iPad smart cover except it does more than turn on the tablet. It is simply an ingenious idea that apple quietly wishes they thought of first.
 
There are second versions of the Surface RT and Surface Pro coming soon. If you can wait, I'd wait for new hardware to come out. Otherwise, there have been price cuts on the existing hardware, so they're cheaper than they were when they first came out.

I personally have the Surface RT, which cannot run regular desktop applications for full Windows, but it does come with Office, a USB port, HDMI out, and desktop File Explorer and IE, which does make it a nice laptop replacement, and more and more apps are going to the Store every day. If you need full Windows, or the ability to take good handwritten notes, get the Pro.
 
I love my original Surface Pro and use it every day. So far I'm hearing great reviews about the Surface Pro 2, although I'll just hang on to what I have for now because the differences to me aren't quite worth the money to buy another one.
 
The Surface is more for business professionals that use Office programs (Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote) than anything else.
 
^What I would give for a "professional" that knows both Excel and Access. When I say: "knows excel", I mean beyond being a 'data monkey'.
 
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