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What is the most efficient drug i can buy wich if overdosed will cause death? Im just considering it, its nothing sure yet, but id like to be ready...
I just dont want to wake up after 30 hours with damaged brain because it would only hurt my family and ill be stuck in vegetative state. I want to die or get another chance if lucky. My life was/is very bad, i dont see any realistic way of improving it, i give it a try couple more times, but if it doesnt work its over.
Perhaps you know of some better ways of doing that than drugs, point is if it takes too long/painfull i might change my mind and back out because instincts tell me to survive.

thx.
 
LilBit said:
If this is a joke, it's really not funny. If it's serious, then please see a therapist. An internet forum is not the best place for suicide help.

There are some helpful links in this thread: http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321448
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I agree. I'm guessing you're around my age 21-22ish. Are you currently going to school? If so, I'm sure they offer counseling services. Please speak to a therapist/counselor. Suicide is not the answer.
 
No it is not a joke. Im not planning to kill myself soon, but i want to know how to do it if ill be depressed enough. I know some of you have an experience in drugs and know how they work, so i ask for help to make it as quick as possible.

I agree. I'm guessing you're around my age 21-22ish. Are you currently going to school? If so, I'm sure they offer counseling services. Please speak to a therapist/counselor. Suicide is not the answer.
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no i am not going to school, i have no contact with any people. im alone, and trully alone, there is noone here that could help me. Otherwise i wouldnt be feeling this way.
 
Please look at the links in the thread that I linked to. There are lots of places to get help.
 
The great thing is you don't need to improve your life all on your own. When you feel like there is literally nothing else that you can do, personally, to make things better, it means you're in crisis. It's time to let other people help you build some options, especially when you're too drained to figure out any options on your own.

The other great thing is you have an instinct to survive, even if you sometimes feel it would be easier to find a way to ignore it. Don't ignore it. Let it shout! I don't care if you go stand in the middle of the nearest crosswalk right now and just shout at the top of your lungs until someone sends the police take you away to the mental hospital. If that's all you've got left, do it. It's easier than ignoring the instinct to survive, and no pain either.

No contact with people? We're people. We're not the only people though, and a doctor should be one of the people around you and helping you right now if at all possible. You don't need to feel hopeless all the time, and you don't need to wait and see if depression will get worse. You don't have to tough it out on your own.

If you've got the energy, go for a walk around the block, or wheel around the block if you can't walk. Or look out the window and take a virtual walk if you can't leave the house. If you need to sleep instead, let yourself rest, but don't worry about having to figure out depression on your own. Let others help.
 
you're worried that your family will be hurt if you end up brain damaged, but not if you die? there is no worse way imaginable to hurt your family. please read the link lilbit posted. no matter how bad things are, they can get better as long as you don't give up.
 
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Everyone that can read this, is alive.

How would we know the most effective way to die?


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You think what kind of help will i get?
It wont fix my life, im 21 and did nothing in my life. I havent even finished school :(
The most painfull thing is that im alone, i dont know the reason, possibly im brain damaged and cant make a friend even if i get all the help in the world.
People just dont like me, i cant make smalltalk, cant even start conversation. There is something wrong with me, and there is no way of changing it.
Survival of the fittest, too bad im not one of them. Of course i can live like this, but whats the point. I dont have anything good from life, only constant struggle and problems.
So help is a good idea for someone with 'problems', but what is the temporary problem/crysis for one person is a way of life for me. I do not fit into this world, my existance is just wrong and unless this change by miracle i feel a need to end it. I feel like a machine, i see people around laughing, having fun, being together, and i just cant do that.
If i try and make first step, it might work, but after first step there is another and another, each of them harder as people know me better and sense im 'incompatible'. Sooner of later im rejected, ignored. Ive tried coming along with people in work places (yes, i worked in many places, cant saty on one because of reasons above) and its the same history over and over again. If i wont be rejected at start, i will be in the next few days. After a week everyone will ignore me at best, worst case scenario is they will insult me and make me feel bad.

So you see, suicide is a way of fixing this problem. Unless you know of technology wich can alter my brain, its the only viable solution.
 
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no i am not going to school, i have no contact with any people. im alone, and trully alone, there is noone here that could help me. Otherwise i wouldnt be feeling this way.
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I'm glad you found us, we can nurse you back to health. Just stay here and try to relax, things will get better.....I've been suicidal before too and you wouldn't believe the AWESOME things I've experienced since then___had I died I would have missed it all.
DON"T miss out on the great things to come ShyOne...stay with us here buddy(*8*)

Gus:kiss:
 
ShyOne89 said:
So you see, suicide is a way of fixing this problem. Unless you know of technology wich can alter my brain, its the only viable solution.
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There is. It's called anti-depressants. Therapy can help with the problems you've described as well.

I've had times in my life when I felt that same way that you do. As a child, I hardly had any friends, and I was painfully shy. During my last two years of high school I wore long-sleeved shirts to cover the cuts on my wrists. I was convinced that I was worthless and that I could never be happy.

But I got help, and now I'm leading a much better life. Suicide is not the answer. PLEASE get help.
 
dude,
at 21 you haven't had time to do anything with your life, so stop sweating that aspect.

it's interesting that you think you can't make friends or small talk, you started a great conversation here so you must have some talents in that department.

yes, there are struggles in life, there is no denying that. you survive a struggle and you reward yourself with something fun. it's a trade off....

as far as the next step and the next step being harder and harder, that is true in some instances but not in others. in some cases the steps become easier. you are throwing out what you object to in your life. there is more than one way to look at a problem. you should talk to someone before you make any decisions, there are those who can help you.

i'll keep you in my thoughts.
 
ShyOne, you said you wouldn't feel this way if you had some connections with people. Connections would solve a lot of your problems.

There are a whole bunch of us here trying to reach out to you. I believe you when you say that is what you need.

I dropped out of university at the same age. And the first time I connected with anyone on a personal level I remember sitting under my desk and physically shaking when I talked to the person on the phone making plans just to go out for coffee because I was so nervous about talking to anyone. After the first hard step is another hard step, and another.

I promise you when you meet enough people that some of them will reject you. It is guaranteed, and I've lived it, and it hurts. So much that sometimes the pain of rejection is the only thing that seems real any more, the only thing left that reminds us we're alive. And if it goes on too long even that pain seems to fade into distant memory, leaving nothing.

But I also promise you you will connect with people. You've already started here today. And with enough connections comes enough support, enough variety, enough ideas to let go of the pain and find there are still other things that remind you you're alive. And it doesn't matter what's going on with your brain. People with serious conditions from autism to OCD to downs syndrome to you name it can still make some beautiful connections in their lives. So whatever kind of brain you're living with, it has no power to stop you.

The funny thing is, when I was terrified and hiding under my desk just because a single phone call was overwhelming, it was because I didn't know how to make it all work...how to see it through...I started this "socializing" ball rolling, and so now what? I thought I was fucked, in over my head, and faking it badly! You know what? I didn't even have to know what to do. I met someone with better social skills than I had. I didn't have to know how to make the connection work. All I had to do was be open, let it happen, and let him figure out how we should connect. Turns out he's a good friend who has introduced me to a world of new people. I know my way around my own social life now, and I'm confident in it. But once upon a time, I wasn't. All it is is just one hard step after another. And you've already started.

You've reached out to us. Now we're reaching back. Let it happen.
 
there is technology that can alter your brain. there are many different kinds of anti-depressants and drugs for various personality disorders. there may be some kind of non-drug therapy that can help too. if you've never talked to a professional, how can be so sure there is no treatment?

i used to have a similar problem to you... i was very anti social and had a lot of trouble relating to other people. i had the exact same feelings of being different, not fitting in, nobody wanting to be around me. i think it's a problem that affects a lot of gay people. for a while i was very depressed and i thought i would be like that forever. but i've changed a lot in the last few years. i have more friends now, i talk to other people more easily, and other people talk to me. whatever your problem is, it probably isn't permanent. you can change. but if you never seek help you might never figure out how to change.
 
Well thanks for your support, but you dont know me to help me.
I really hope that your intentions are as good as i hope, and motivations go beyond having one more tax payer living in false hopes of better tomorrow.


Ok, you interested me in anti depressant drugs, how do they work? Will i get 'high' from it, so i can let go of my problems or what. Ive tried some things in past, but none of them worked as expected - on the contrary, when i lose control im really pathetic.

I am ready to give it a try. Do i need a perscription for it, or i just can buy it in pharmacy or online? I live in uk. What would you recommend? I have rather fast metabolism so i would prefer strong ones.

I hope my problem isnt permanent, but i wasted already so much of my life that it makes me wonder, if there is still something good that can happen to me, or im just too old.
When i was younger i never wanted to live longer than 25-30 years, i considered the age after old, when all sorts of illness gets you, you start gaining weight, losing hair, hearing, sight, arthritis, all sorts of cancer, ughh...
 
I will echo the above comments to the effect of 'suicide is never the answer'.

Here are my suggestions: seek-out a mental health professional. If you have health insurance, see your primary care physician and discuss options. If you've no insurance, contact your county mental health department or go to a county hospital. Most likely the service will be free. I'm also sure there are programs or options for you to receive any medication, if needed, at little to no cost.

There are other options for you. Things can get better. You are not alone.

Talk. Talk to us. Talk to a doctor. Talk to someone.
 
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