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My friend who's probably playing games with my head.

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So, I've got this friend. I've only known him for about 3 months, but we get along incredibly well. We'll call him Andre. Him and I become close very fast. Almost all of my close friends are heterosexual males, in fact the only two girls I would consider "real" friends are my two best friend's girlfriends; ANYWAY, those friendships grew more out of shared experiences with one another while growing up. The friendship I have with this guy... I can't really put my finger on the right words, but it just didn't grow as... organically? I guess, as all my other ones.
He was just... really adamant about being friends. Ever since the beginning. We never even exchanged phone numbers, he just looked mine up on our jobs employee directory and began texting me. He's a very aggressive person in general but all the while I've known him, I don't see him being as determined to spend time with any of our other coworkers as much as me, if that makes sense.
I've been completely open and honest about my sexuality with him since we met. I told him I was bi, had physically been with more girls than guys but dated more guys because girls tend to not be secure enough with themselves to be in a relationship with a guy who likes other guys in addition to girls. He never stated any label however, just mentions various sexual things about girls, which believed me to think he was straight. Theres just some stuff he's done...that makes me feel otherwise. And it's not just 'cause I'm hoping it's otherwise, I just have never had any other of my friends do these particular things. These are some of the biggest:

1) Before I came out to him, I had a impromptu lunch with him and a fellow coworker who is gay. One point at lunch, our coworker excused himself from the table for some reason or other, and when he left, Andre said in a sortof joking way "#$% is so cute". I'm the closest thing my friends have to a gay-friend, and I'm pretty sure they've never called me cute to any of their coworkers. Especially ones they just met.
2) The first time we spoke out of work, he had been texting me and the conversation topic had grown to something too much to text so I called him instead, but he ignored my call. I texted him back asking why and he said he was just better at texting. This could be nothing but at the time I definitely thought it was a little suspicious. It's just something I could only imagine teenage girls actually having the shame to say out loud.
3) Then, the first time we hung out, he called to tell me his parents were gone for the night and I should come over 'cause he had some pot. Full house to himself... and has pot... and the first person he calls to come over is me? The random new guy from work?
4) This is what really got me thinking though. Happened late last week. So we got drunk at happy hour, just the two of us, pretty early in the day. It was probably 430 in the afternoon by the time we made it back to my place, and I was totally gone. I told him I was going to take a nap and lied down on my bed, but Andre said he wasn't tired and was too drunk to drive home so instead of letting me sleep, he begins to tickle me. The tickling becomes wrestling, and the wrestling becomes me holding him in a choke hold and him throwing up all over his shirt because hes so drunk. I offered to give him a shirt to borrow, but instead he just stays shirtless and says he wouldn't want to puke on any of my shirts but thank you.
So then I lied down again and told him I was still going to take that nap, and he continued to try to convince me to stay up and do something, "go see a movie, go get something to eat, etc". I tell him that "the only thing i'm capable of doing right now is spooning." The next thing I know, he's taking off his shoes, climbing into bed with me and says "I call little spoon then."
But wait. That's not all. So Im a little of a complicated sleeper. I need 3 pillows to fully be comfortable. One for the head, one inbetween my legs and one to hugg. So I set my hugger pillow and drift to sleep. When I wake up 2 hours later, that pillow is gone and I'm hugging Andre's shirtless torso. I most definitely did not move that pillow.'
5)The last time he got a date with a girl, he called me immediately after to tell me. JUST to tell me that it happened and that it was that night so therefore we couldn't hang out... even though we had made no plans to and I hadn't spoken to him that day at all.

Now, first I've got to say that I've never crushed on any of my guy friends. All the guys Ive ever been with, dated, etc were never my friends. Not exclusively anyways.
But with Andre, it's different. And it's not 'cause he's hot, because he is hot; but because he's ridiculously charming.
He's really funny, and sweet, and generous. He's really respectful and polite to his parents. You should see how he treats his mom, it makes me to jump his bones, its almost too much. He's very repetitive and redundant, which I find gnarly cute haha. It's sortof endearing lol. To quote a friend of mine that I introduced him to, "everything he says is either obviously crazy or crazy obvious." He lacks alot of common sense, but is really intellectual and book smart. I like his sense of style and taste in music, and I love his sense of humor. He wears these really corny emo-glasses sometimes even though he has perfect vision just because he feels they "give him more personality". All I wanna do is shove my tongue in his mouth when he wears them though, he looks so fucking adorable with them on. He's the quietest sleeper. Doesn't toss or turn or snore or anything.
I'm crushing really fucking hard. And I really don't know what to think. He's only 18 and still lives with his parents, both of whom are conservative Muslims. He exudes masculine traits, I would never think he was into guys from all the tall-tale signs, but the way he acts with me... I don't know. He might be in the closet, or bicurious. Or he might just be taking me for a ride, just for shits and giggles. What do you guys think? One of my best friends, when they first met him told me they thought he might be gay. This friend said they never would've known when I came out to them though so it might his retardation or something. Second opinions and advice please!
 
Well it appears that something could definitely happen with him, especially if alcohol is involved, but what's wrong with just asking him if he'd like to mess around?
 
He's gay. He's a bit strange. He's also a big ol' mess.

And he's a co-worker.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
 
He seems to be into you. The only problem I see is that he is a co-worker. It may not be the best idea to get involved while you work together.
 
How old are you?

First, if he's not out, he's got issues and you'll make them your issues when you inevitably get involved with him and he wants to hide or freaks out.

Second, you still don't know if he's gay. We only know what your perspective is and your perspective, no offense, is biased - you want him to be gay and interested. Is he? We don't know, he's the only one with the answer.

Third, what do you want from him? A fuck? A boyfriend? If he isn't out you might get one, but not the other.

I used to say that guys who are in this situation should back off, but then one of the other posters in here pointed out that the angst usually continues until you have your answer or your rejection - and that kinda makes some sense. So forget that this could make work really awkward, forget that he's not out or not interested and go ahead an make a move, you'll have your answer.

As with anything else, you'll also have your consequences, but hey that's the gamble you take, the odds are 50/50 they won't be bad ones.
 
How old are you?

I'm newly 21. He turns 19 the end of next week. I'm about 2 and 1/2 years older than him.

First, if he's not out, he's got issues and you'll make them your issues when you inevitably get involved with him and he wants to hide or freaks out.

Honestly, he and I are so young... it really wouldn't make that much of a difference anyway.

Second, you still don't know if he's gay. We only know what your perspective is and your perspective, no offense, is biased - you want him to be gay and interested. Is he? We don't know, he's the only one with the answer.

I think that most likely he is either completely straight and deeply longing a close male friendship or he's deeply in the closet and longing for some intimacy.

Third, what do you want from him? A fuck? A boyfriend?

Oh my god, both. Doesn't have to be in that order lol, but most definitely both. I don't want some open-ended, friends-with-benefits type deal though, that's for sure.

I used to say that guys who are in this situation should back off, but then one of the other posters in here pointed out that the angst usually continues until you have your answer or your rejection - and that kinda makes some sense. So forget that this could make work really awkward, forget that he's not out or not interested and go ahead an make a move, you'll have your answer.

Just as I said when answering your third question, I don't just want to hook up with him. If that were all, I would've made my move ages ago. Or at least have worn less clothes around him all this time. I don't want him thinking I'm that kinda guy, 'cause I'm not. I'm basically playing coy while still waiting and hoping. Thanks for the advice though
 
This is very similar to the kind of story that pops up on these forums all the time... except that you are out to this guy. I might be missing an important detail, but I don't see why you can't just ask him. Iunno... ask him what his sexuality is next time it comes up, or just be blunt and say you feel like he's flirting with you. If your conversations with him are natural and organic (like you've been describing your friendship) then it should be easy to slip in a key question without it sounding awkward.
 
This is very similar to the kind of story that pops up on these forums all the time... except that you are out to this guy. I might be missing an important detail, but I don't see why you can't just ask him. Iunno... ask him what his sexuality is next time it comes up, or just be blunt and say you feel like he's flirting with you. If your conversations with him are natural and organic (like you've been describing your friendship) then it should be easy to slip in a key question without it sounding awkward.

Actually, that's not what I said at all. I said my friendship with him wasn't as organic as all my other ones, and I didn't mention anything about our conversations. But there's lots of problems with why I can't just slip it in a random conversation. Besides the fact that I work like 7 hour long shifts with him, 3-4 times a week, there's the little fact that if he was gay or bisexual, or at least out and open about it, he would have just told me when I came out to him, right? Like I said before, I guess what I'm hoping for is... that he's in the closet? I dunno. I'll probably just bite my lip and give him a good "come hither" look the next time we're drunk and alone and see what happens. Anything verbal I think would be a little too forward for me if were in his shoes and I'm wrong and he is straight.
 
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