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One thing MS has that no one can seem to do.

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And that is have a grammar and punctuation corrector in Microsoft Word. I loved how the program would tell you that you have a fragment, and sometimes suggest another way to write the sentence. I hate how other word processors don't have that. I sadly dont have Microsoft Word, but I fucking need it badly.

If only an open source browser would at least attempt it. I would download it and keep it.
 
MS Word doesn't do it very well. I use it at work and had to turn off the feature.

I don't think it would be able to correct what you wrote in your post to make it grammatically correct.

Open office has some very good features. I like the language support.
 
My personal favourite word processor is Pages which is included in iWork. It's extremely simple yet very powerful plus you can export to doc and PDF.

I keep meaning to try Open Office and I recommend it to people who can't afford Office. Although if MS get their way then you may end up paying for Open Office. :confused:
 
I generally find Ms's spell checker to be much better then open office. But for quick things, I just dump them into google.
 
I have had Open Office and it is very very good, but it doesnt have what MS has.
 
I wouldn't rely on Microsoft's grammar check too much if I were you. It can help sometimes, but my experience with office XP gave me the impression that it doesn't grammar check very well. Besides that, I don't really want clippy second guessing me at every turn.

I have a copy of Office XP Pro, which I will likely never use again, sitting here wasting space in my desk . I would have given it away, but the license isn't transferable. You never hear anyone saying it, but open source users like myself actually respect software licenses a lot more than most Windows users do, even if we don't agree with the licenses. Besides, I'd prefer to encourage people to use and improve free, open standard software, than to get them reliant on proprietary software.

Back to the topic of grammar checkers... There are several open source grammar checkers, some of which you can install in OpenOffice. Take a look at http://www.languagetool.org/. You can install it in OpenOffice with the extension manager. You can even demo it online. Personally I don't care for grammar checkers. But, if you must have one in OpenOffice, you do have some options.
 
Here's a little something I tell my students all the time:
Language in context is far too complicated for a computer. There are too many different structures and meanings and possibilities. A grammar check may work once in a while, but it will be wrong at least half, and probably most of, the time. Even spell check programs are shoddy at best. They are good with misspellings, but they do not always see a misspelled word. Neither a spelling not a grammar check is perfect and relying on them is a very bad idea.
 
^ I had a similar discussion with my sisters BF. He's a French teacher and can always tell when his students use translators on the internet. Personally I think computers will get better with the different meanings and structures, of course they won't be perfect though.
 
Yeah, over time they will get more advanced and who knows? Some day they might 'understand' language. I think it could be possible for a computer to grasp the infinity of language. Some day. Until then using grammar check and translation websites will always generate a failing mark. While teaching at a vocational school, about 75% of my students used sites like Babelfish for one or more parts of their report. And it was too easy to catch them. Here, a typical (though not exact - I plucked it from the net) example of the kind of work I got. Typed up in Dutch and then translated to English using Babelfish. It's a movie summary:

When Charlie hear that its rich father has died, he travels to Cincinnati to pick up the inheritance. There discovered he that it most of the money goes to its older brother Raymond, who did not know Charlie. Raymond are autistic, but are well with figures. He has however low social skills. Charlie take along Raymond on a travel, in the first place Raymond of it to persuade to give him to a part of the geërfde fortuin. Eventually Charlie realise how geldzuchtig he is, and improves he are life.
 
Long time ago before I became a MS free zone, I used Word to put together a resignation letter. It had a problem with a line *You are no doubt aware...* It said to change it to *You is*

Perhaps peeps need to learn English in school rather then writing computer programs.
 
If you are translating from a foreign language into your own using a translator there is no excuse for bad grammar as your knowledge of your own language should enable you to correct errors. Too many people don't bother to read what they have written and rely too heavily on the computer to sort it out for them. When I used to use word I admit I found the grammar checker of very little use as it would not let me express things as I wanted to.

Now, having gone on this diatribe, I suppose I am going to have my grammar ripped to bits for silly mistakes. But they are mine and I love them. ;)
 
trawler69 said:
Now, having gone on this diatribe, I suppose I am going to have my grammar ripped to bits for silly mistakes. But they are mine and I love them. ;)
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[clippie] Suggest you change to *I suppose I is to half my grandma ripped to bits for Sicilian misteaks.*:=D:
 
I think the fact that MS Word can check for passive voice is amazing.

All my professors demand that our papers be all active, and therefore "more lively."

Grammar check!
 
sheep said:
It had a problem with a line *You are no doubt aware...* It said to change it to *You is*

Perhaps peeps need to learn English in school rather then writing computer programs.
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well, to be an English teacher about it all... "no doubt" is a band, not an adverb, so it should have asked you to change it to "You are undoubtedly aware."

but in any case, i think you made a perfect point. why can't people just learn to type with better grammar?

and as for QuietChivalry, you managed to write that post in the active voice. is it that much harder to check for it in an essay?
 
I wouldn't say it was much harder to write in active voice in a paper, but it seems to happen more. I mean, I think the only reason most of what I write on JUB is active is because I'm writing as if I were actually talking. When you're trying to write a paper, things just get screwy, lol.

Oh, and I'm a Chemistry major, and all of our research papers have to be in passive voice. Our English papers, though, require active voice. So maybe it's a problem of literary merit vs. scientific dictation?
 
3nipples said:
MS Word doesn't do it very well. I use it at work and had to turn off the feature.
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the english grammar check actually is way better than the german ;)
however, i also wouldn't recommend to rely on it ;)
 
3nipples said:
MS Word doesn't do it very well. I use it at work and had to turn off the feature.

I don't think it would be able to correct what you wrote in your post to make it grammatically correct.

Open office has some very good features. I like the language support.
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Why would you have to turn it off?

cant you stand the sight of little green squiggly lines under things?

sometimes it is useful i usually double check if it is underlined because it picks up repeated words and other little mistakes and highlights them i would say its only right for me 50% of the time but it is still useful in drawing attention to little stuff ups

as for open office if you only need the basics its fine but if you want to use it to its fullest Office is still the way to go
 
sheep said:
Long time ago before I became a MS free zone, I used Word to put together a resignation letter. It had a problem with a line *You are no doubt aware...* It said to change it to *You is*

Perhaps peeps need to learn English in school rather then writing computer programs.
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That's the exact same things I always catch with Word. You is, they gets etc., etc.
 
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