Pride and the Public

[EddMarkStarr]

June 2023 is becoming heated as some members of the public are willing to do violence at the very hint of Pride, and any Pride related events.

A Glendale school board meeting turned nasty when a few parents couldn't control their anger over rumors of Pride discussions in the classroom.

 

[Peloso]

Hate groups have promised to make their presence felt at Pride events this year. Be careful, everyone.

 

[gsdx]

I knew I liked boys before I even started kindergarten. I didn't understand it, but I knew it. That video horrified me, yet it doesn't come close to the terror a young boy who likes other boys must feel. That hatred drives so many young people to commit suicide, I'm sure. Death is better than facing such hatred every day of your life.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Gay theory has focused inordinately on sexual orientation being present from birth, absent of hard science to prove it. Gays looking back retroactively and identifying same sex relationships in childhood as being precursors to sexual attraction is not the same as sexual attraction at that age.

But, as we have discussed in many JUB threads over the past years, we will not likely ever see that addressed because objective research is likely never going to be funded to determine the biological and psychological components of male homosexuality.

So, it's understandable that parents fear too much discussion with young children about sexuality may confuse them. We never even got broad acceptance in the U.S. for sex education in secondary schools, much less the mention of sex to primary students.

With Biden already weak on his left flank, and with a real chance of Trump being weakened by his criminal indictments and convictions (with any justice), we can expect the far right to ramp up hostility and photo ops for culture war causes.

Both the right and the left are wrong to take the fight to the elementary schools. After all, gay acceptance grew in the U.S. to a majority of the population WITHOUT inclusion and acceptance being taught to children in the schools, not even the high schools. As many have said, the main engine of progress, outside the law and the courts, will be the death of a generation or two of stalwarts.

Tolerance is turning to acceptance, but it takes time.

For the groups fighting for any early education curriculum, the efforts are misplaced and will play into the far right's strategy, and will result in erosion of the gay rights cause in the popular mind. Don't play into the opponent's strategy. Continue to support acceptance through demonstrating it and fighting in court over it. Don't make children a cornerstone. It will be a losing strategy.

A decade ago, lewdness in Pride events, on the streets was championed, yet that was gratuitous and counterproductive. Pride parades have been broadened and the sharp edges taken off the public indecency, which has resulted in a lot of the parades fading after their shock value was removed.

We'll alway see resentment from some straights at having a Pride month, but the mainstreaming of gay rights may mean that at some point, Pride becomes obsolete due to broad acceptance. We are not there yet.

 

[EddMarkStarr]

Teachers in King and Pierce counties in Washington state are reporting random threatening messages online and notes left on their cars as the school year draws to a close. No one seems to be directly targeted but the intent must be general fear.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Parents should be teaching kids about this stuff.

Not the government. And not angry teachers.

 

[EddMarkStarr]

Parents should be teaching kids about this stuff.

Not the government. And not angry teachers.

I'm shocked that the WEA, the teacher's union, hasn't made any statements to it's membership about any of this.

 

[pat grimshaw]

Children are like sponges. They absorb anything placed in front of them.

 

[rareboy]

Parents should be teaching kids about this stuff.

Not the government. And not angry teachers.

This is an utterly stupid statement.

It is like saying that parents should be the ones teaching their kids algebra.

For all the children living in households where the parents can't or won't talk about homosexuality or sexuality generally, an accepting and open environment in school may literally be a child's lifeline.

I get that you, as a self-hating, repressed homosexual feel shame about who you are...and seem to hate anyone who is openly and defiantly lgbtq...but it doesn't follow that you are right.

 

[rareboy]

 

[pat grimshaw]

angry teachers.

This teacher In Cincinatti says the words 'biological women' is 'outdated terminology', offensive and heteronormative.

Professor BRAGS about failing students who offend her woke beliefs

An adjunct professor of sexuality studies, Melanie Rose Nipper, 28, stood by her grading practices Thursday - in what looks to be the latest blowup involving leftist lessons in public schools.

www.dailymail.co.uk

No wonder parents are revolting.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1579611348744679428

 

[rareboy]

It seems you are as well.

 

[Essex Boy]

 

[aaggii]

Parents should be teaching kids about this stuff.

Not the government. And not angry teachers.

I want to nominate this as the stupidest post this month on JUB.

 

[gsdx]

The 'Ignore' function works so much better in the new JUB. I don't even see his posts when he's quoted.

However, from the comments, I see that he hasn't changed a bit.

 

[eddielee]

The 'Ignore' function works so much better in the new JUB. I don't even see his posts when he's quoted.

However, from the comments, I see that he hasn't changed a bit.

I had better take advantage of the ignore function as well. The person in question has long become intolerable.

 

[rareboy]

 

[EddMarkStarr]

Growing up has always been a tough job.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

But, as we have discussed in many JUB threads over the past years, we will not likely ever see that addressed because objective research is likely never going to be funded to determine the biological and psychological components of male homosexuality.

Yeah, cuz nobody's studying genetics and/or sexuality. That's why it's so

Massive Study Finds No Single Genetic Cause of Same-Sex Sexual Behavior

Analysis of half a million people suggests genetics may have a limited contribution to sexual orientation

www.scientificamerican.com

hard

No ‘gay gene’: Massive study homes in on genetic basis of human sexuality

Nearly half a million genomes reveal five DNA markers associated with sexual behaviour — but none with the power to predict the sexuality of an individual.

www.nature.com

to

A study on male homosexual behavior

Male homosexual behavior carries a high risk of transmitting sexually transmitted infections (STIs). Ignorance regarding the associated high risk, indulgence inspite of no natural homosexual orientation and not using protective barrier methods can affect ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

find

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

research

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

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Many Genes Influence Same-Sex Sexuality, Not a Single ‘Gay Gene’ (Published 2019)

The largest study of same-sex sexual behavior finds the genetics are complicated, and social and environmental factors are also key.

www.nytimes.com

homo

Stop calling it a choice: Biological factors drive homosexuality

A new study of nearly 500,000 individuals finds that many genes affect same-sex behavior, including newly identified candidates that may regulate smell and sex hormones.

theconversation.com

sex

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018506X19304660

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Scientists explore the evolution of animal homosexuality | Imperial News | Imperial College London

Imperial researchers are using a new approach to understand why same-sex behaviour is so common across the animal kingdom.

www.imperial.ac.uk

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Prosociality and a Sociosexual Hypothesis for the Evolution of Same-Sex Attraction in Humans

Human same-sex sexual attraction (SSSA) has long been considered to be an evolutionary puzzle. The trait is clearly biological: it is widespread and has a strong additive genetic basis, but how SSSA has evolved remains a subject of debate. Of itself, homosexual sexual behavior will not yield...

www.frontiersin.org

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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13558358.2020.1818541

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Nature vs. Nurture: The Biology of Sexuality | BU Today | Boston University

Boston University is a leading private research institution with two primary campuses in the heart of Boston and programs around the world.

www.bu.edu

 

[rareboy]

The best part of Pride is how it triggers the closet case 'str8s'