well i cant argue with any of you. my brain simply isnt in it. I dont agree with half of what you say, but I can't argue cause more people will go for what you say than I will ever. So it is pointless to try.
That's the whole point. It was pointless for you to try; I have met plenty of people who are gay or bisexual, and don't care either way if there are gay characters in media. I don't agree with them, obviously but I respect the fact that, although it's the way they feel, they don't seek out places to air their not-quite-as-self-loathing-as-some opinion and only express it if they're specifically asked. It's when people actually go as far as to tell GLAAD and other groups who are looking out for your safety and self-esteem (whether or not you realize it) by making sure that you are represented in the media and other people will have enough understanding of your orientation so that your life isn't confronted by ten times as much adversity as everyone who is LGBT in the world currently deals with now because of that representation *NOT* to do what they do, that I am simply in awe of the counterproductive nature of where people like yourself direct your energies. But if you admit that you don't have the energy or "brain" power to continue, and you're finally quitting this insane line of arguments on this particular thread, then all I can say is I'm thankful for small favors.
What I don't even understand is why some of you guys bother to seek out a gay site with gay people; why not just post on a regular entertainment site where you can hide your sexuality and homoaffectionality (like you seem to want the media to do across the board) and proceed? You could easily discuss your favorite shows there and since you prefer to want to be around people who oppose having more gay characters on media, I'm sure you would have that kind of environment on more 'mainstream' sites. I remember in 1999, when there was a grand total of 4 or 5 (if you included both Will & Jack as two instances of gay characters) gay characters/shows out of 40, and people on 'mainstream' sites were asking if "every" show had to have a gay character. I'm sure you would agree with those kinds of completely specious, fact-ignoring, bias-promoting 'questions', so I don't understand why you seek sites where the entire premise seems to run counter to your whole rationales.
As for the libertarian. He is right.
You have major issues. This proves it right there.
You*'*r*e* right, homophobic people will find something else to use against us, but they have this.
Let them "have" it. If this is their idea of ammo, then they're pretty damn desperate. Meanwhile, I will point to all the pathetic studies they do about the "liberal media" and how hostile it is to them, and how victimized they feel, and how it makes them vote for someone like Bush, and what those kinds of "spiteful-in-your-face" tactics result in for the country, and it'll make everyone see just how irrational and completely wingnutty they are. I know which side will win in the end, and *ONLY* because of people who have the strength and courage to brave the backlashes that all hateful people have historically subjected every group fighting for civil rights to until equality finally arrives. Change is incremental, and everything must be done strategically. I have never encouraged people to demand gay marriage in Utah, Idaho, and Alabama, nor have I demanded that they have gay porn orgies with full-frontal and everything on Sesame Street, and for the latter I (*gasp*) never will. From the looks of it, that what's some of you seem to be implying that GLAAD is asking for when they conduct these studies, and it makes me wonder just how repressed some people are, and just how much daily exposure to homophobic sentiments and religious hatred people have to deal with. All I can say is, I pray for the day that this bullshit ends so people can move on with their lives and find something to do other than worry about how haters will react to every single thing in the world.
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