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so any news on the cause of sexual orientation yet?

Gee what do ya I'm left handed and the oldest boy and gay. So I can blame my left handedness then!! :lol:
 
Let us see...

- Dad was out of the picture for the most part most of my life
- Lived in a 3 bedroom house with my anywhere from 2 to 4 of my older sisters, mother, and one of my sister's kids...
- The bathroom lock broke and never got fixed... that lead to some things I wish I hadn't seen...
- I was a social outcast when I was younger (so perhaps I fit the exotic to erotic theory...)
- Maybe genetics (I'll swear on my life my uncle was gay... though he died before I was born... but I just know from the way people talk about him...)
- Plus other stuff too…

So I’m sure if it’s purely social then I’ve got something up there that made me work differently than “normal”… Though… I like being different…
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r0Nx7AlKksI

i saw this vid on youtube saying that having brothers effect your sexual orientation
im really intrigued by this subject because its really interesting in my opinion.

anyone else heard of anything else?

Hi tea123456

This is one among many theories. This particular theory -by psychologist Anthony F. Bogaert of Brock University in St. Catharines, Ontario- states the apparent correlation in some families between the number of biological male siblings and the probability of being gay. According to Bogaert homosexuality grows more likely with the greater number of biological older brothers. He found the link between the number of older brothers and homosexuality only existed when the siblings shared the same mother. Bogaert has supported the idea that conditions in the womb before birth are more important than factors as the family environment.

The theory has not been presented as a universal truth. According to Bogaert "These results support a prenatal origin to sexual orientation development in men." i.e. this theory supports the view that homosexuality is genetically determined and not a lifestyle choice.

The theory had significant press in 2006 including discussion of its limitations (lack of universal validity, questions of cross-cultural validity, etc). Some original coverage here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5120004.stm
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20060701/fob1.asp
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2244488,00.html
 
I'm half gay because mom was on top, and half of me defied gravity just to get to the other half of me. Please, straight men are too lazy to fight against the force of gravity...
 
Of all the great discourses of the 19th century: psychoanalysis, marxism and evolution; only the evolutionary theory survived in its largely unchanged form.

Homosexuality in higher species has been one of the most daunting issues the evolutionists have ever tackled. At present, the working hypothesis is that homosexuality makes sense in evolutionary terms as homosexual members of the species have no offspring, so that the resources available for the survival of the next generation are thus, enhanced.

Plainly speaking, the role of homosexuality in evolutionary terms is that of 'a support battalion for their family's next generation.

The discovery of the 'Older Brother Effect' actually fits into this broad hypothesis.

SC
 
My view: Cohort-gendered-bonding is a part of human nature. Human nature is distinguished by what we refer to as Intelligence which is social and longitudinal and not so much individual and not genetically a sexual-dominance factor.

Human intelligence can be an evolutionary development by which we choose to extinguish ourselves.
 
I have two younger brothers, both straight; I'm the oldest male child and the only one who is gay. I did not have a domineering mother and my father was not absent - in fact he was always very affectionate and caring.

I like this part of the show better:

I wanted dolls when I was three, and I also wanted a pink canopy for my bed, but my parents would not let me have either. I did get dolls from my older sister, however, who preferred to play with the train sets that I got. She did not become a lesbian, however, even though she preferred boys' toys.
 
I have two older straight brothers. I don't know if it means anything. Just thought I'd share.
 
i used ride a stake board once(like everyday of my life almost )
was into punk music
kinda different i was

i'm queer i'm here
 
I'm an only child and BOTH my parents were distant.

My mother was one of seven sisters.

My father was the only male in a family of five siblings.

To my knowledge, I'm the only "gay" in the family for at least two generations.

I was also the only one with no siblings for at least two generations.

I suspect the Only Child With Emotionally Distant Parents Makes Gays theory.

i think you are confused about the theory, its not saying that sexual orientation is genetically passed on, but its saying that its biological and it regards the mother's history of carrying males.
 
Well, I watched both videos (which I found very interesting) and I'll put in my two cents. Oh, and I really hope that poor kid who paints his finger nails doesn't get beat up at school.

I never played with girls toys (my favorite toys were airplanes and trains), but I do have videos going way back of me singing and dancing to music from Grease ;). They're hilarious and yes, I would say that they look "stereotypically" gay. I don't have a lisp or cross my legs really tight, but I do sometimes to put my ankle on my opposite knee while sitting, therefore my legs aren't always spread and straight out in front of me. I definitely talk with my hands, and also have always been more attuned to others and very sensitive, but not dramatic or overly emotional about anything. I have one older sister, and both parents are home regularly and I got along with them great as a kid. My mom is the oldest of four girls, my grandma one of 3 girls, and my dad an only child. No history of homosexuality in (at the very least) the past 2 generations. I did spend a lot of time with women when I was young, usually me and my sister plus my mom, grandma, or one of my aunts. Not to sound like an asshole but I would consider myself a masculine homosexual. (At the very least I am attracted to masculine men, not feminine men.) I learned to swing dance pretty easily and I'm told I'm good (even though I don't like to do it in public), and otherwise have no artistic ability whatsoever. My good friends are all guys except for one.

Now, my sister's gay friend grew up without a dad and with a sister and a drama mama. He didn't really have a lisp but his voice sounded gay (forgive my stereotyping but after all, that's what the video was on). He talked a lot with his hands, did drama and was an amazing dancer. He didn't come out until the day after high school graduation, but I had been guessing he was gay for several years. When he came out, his own mother and sister didn't talk to him for over 6 months. Somewhat feminine looking, feminine acting, and extremely dramatic and artistic. Hung/hangs out with mostly women and very few men.

The last gay male I know well is one I've grown up with. He's in my grade, and we went to all the same schools from elementary to high school. He has one straight older brother and both parents have been present and loving. He never had to come out, his parents always knew he was gay and they don't have any problems with that at all. Of his mom's three brothers, two are gay. He is an amazing actor, singer, and dancer who talks with his hands and has the stereotypical "gay voice". Everything he says and does is extremely dramatic and usually loud. Very feminine, hangs out with all women.

What does all of this bantering I'm doing mean? I don't know. It could be genetic, though I really hope not for fear of future genetic testing shortly after conception for homosexuality. I mean, they do it for genetic diseases, I imagine someone would do it for homosexuality. It could be how we were raised, but each of us were raised differently. So anyways, it could be anyone's guess.
 
I think the research is being misunderstood. If you watched the whole thing what they were talking about was the affect of pre-natal hormones. The reason why someone with more older brothers turns out homosexual has nothing to do with his relationships with them, but because of the changes in the uterus caused by the male fetus during pregnancy.

So same-sex attraction doesn't have anything to do with "nurture" or genetics for that matter, which explains why homosexuals survive evolution.


I don't like Wikipedia but this explains it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_sexual_orientation
 
I'm right handed and have two sisters and no brothers
 
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