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I'm not sure if this is the right forum or even the right website to talk about this, but a few months ago I was raped, and the rapist has continued to harass me. He also insinuated he's given me HIV. I need advice about to proceed, or at least know of anyone else on here that might have been in the same position. (I should state that I'm in my late twenties and live in NY State)

A few months ago I met a guy online, and after extensive conversations with him I decided he seemed nice enough to meet for a date. We had coffee together then went for drink at bar. It was there he told me that he was recently divorced and had kids, and that he was getting married to another woman in a couple months because he had got her pregnant. I told him this was all to much for me to handle so I wasn't interested in having sex with him or a relationship. He told me he was fine with that and just wanted a friend to hang out with since he was new to the area. He bought me a second drink and within about 15 minutes I felt completely drunk and blacked out.

I woke up the next morning in my bed, my clothes off, the bed still made. There was something slimy around my anus and I "felt" like someone had had sex with me. I called this guy to find out what happened and he insisted that I got drunk, passed out, he drove me home in my car, and he just left me at the door. After pressing him for more details, he changed his story and said he did go in my house with me and that I forced myself on him and was asking him to have sex with me.

None of this made any sense to me since I am not prone to this type of behavior. I told him that I was going back to that same bar and was going to ask the staff what they had seen, if anything. Then the guy hung abruptly. Later that day he sent me a text message which said: "I DID fuck you, bro. Btw I'm POZ."

I immediately drove to the ER to receive PEP medication. The medication and my ER visit cost me about $800, since my insurance wouldn't cover it. The worst part was that when the police arrived to take down my case, they told me there wasn't anything they could do and that they would never be able to prove it's rape, and good luck. The doctor at the ER told me this how the cops act all the time.

Despite this, I contacted the guy again and told him I was reporting him for rape. This is when he told me he had been lying the whole time: he did in fact rape me, but he was NOT positive for HIV. He just wanted to scare me. He agreed to get tested to prove it to me, and brought me his results from the clinic. (I agreed to meet him at the clinic with two of my friends with me)

I tried again to talk to the police at my local precinct but they said there was no way to prove it was rape and they wouldn't do anything about it. I continued with the PEP medication just in case. I tested negative at the end of 30 days treatment, but the nurse said I should still get re-tested in a month.

During the next month this guy continually contacted me through phone calls and emails. Whenever I blocked him he would just use a different number or email address. All his emails were about how attracted to me he was and how he was in love with me and that he was getting married soon and this was his last chance to be with a man. Again, I reported this to the police and they said there was nothing they could do.

A few weeks ago, I think it was right around this guy's wedding, he was still continuing with his "love" texts and calls to me and I kept ignoring them. Finally he called me and left a message saying he was tested for STD's and everything was negative, but there was a REACTIVE test for HIV 1/2. He said his test results were HIV 1= Negative...HIV2 = Negative...HIV 1/2 Reactive. He then asked me what those test results meant.

I called him and told him I'm not a doctor, so he should listen to whatever the doctor at the clinic told him. He said the doctors at the clinic didn't tell him anything, they just handed him the paper and let him walk out. This sounded fishy to me, since in my experience the doctors at a clinic will always explain your test results to you, especially if there's any discrepancy. It's also strange since this guy works as a hospital administrator--and his parents are doctors at the United Nations--and he must have SOME resources about where to get info about his HIV test results.

I asked him what the next step was: did the doctors say they would test him again, or did they refer him to a counselor to get on HIV medication? Again, he said they didn't tell him anything, they just handed him the results and let him leave. He then demanded to know what MY status was and if I had given HIM anything.

I freaked out again and went to clinic. I had a rapid test which said I was negative, and the nurse there said this guy's story sounded strange. However she said mixed HIV test results are not uncommon and in most cases mean the person is negative. But she also added that I need to get re-tested AGAIN to really rule out an HIV infection.

I'm so anxious right now. I never went back for the follow-up tests. I just can't put myself through this anymore. My current boyfriend has continually tested negative, so that gives me SOME comfort. But this situation has given me so much anxiety. My questions are this:

1) How can I convince the NY Police Department to take action against this guy. I at least want a restraining order.

2) Does his story of a clinic telling him he is Reactive for one his tests, then not telling him anything else and sending him home sound normal?

3) If he is telling the truth, what do these mixed test results mean?


I'm sorry my post is so long and complicated. If you took the time to read it, thank you very much...
 
Hire an attorney. You have a right to due process. He can also get you a restraining order.

You should get tested every three months to keep your status current and to rule out any false negatives.
 
ahh what a mess !!!

Dude .. i suggest posting this thread also in the "bisex forum (the one above this one at the main forum page) ".

Alot more people will see it and will give tons of good advice although it seems like there`s nothing to do .

GOOD LUCK !
 
You were violated twice. Once by this man who raped you and once by the police who refused to do anything. Would they have responded the same way if it had been heterosexual?
 
I'm not sure if this is the right forum or even the right website to talk about this, but a few months ago I was raped, and the rapist has continued to harass me. He also insinuated he's given me HIV. I need advice about to proceed, or at least know of anyone else on here that might have been in the same position. (I should state that I'm in my late twenties and live in NY State)

A few months ago I met a guy online, and after extensive conversations with him I decided he seemed nice enough to meet for a date. We had coffee together then went for drink at bar. It was there he told me that he was recently divorced and had kids, and that he was getting married to another woman in a couple months because he had got her pregnant. I told him this was all to much for me to handle so I wasn't interested in having sex with him or a relationship. He told me he was fine with that and just wanted a friend to hang out with since he was new to the area. He bought me a second drink and within about 15 minutes I felt completely drunk and blacked out.

I woke up the next morning in my bed, my clothes off, the bed still made. There was something slimy around my anus and I "felt" like someone had had sex with me. I called this guy to find out what happened and he insisted that I got drunk, passed out, he drove me home in my car, and he just left me at the door. After pressing him for more details, he changed his story and said he did go in my house with me and that I forced myself on him and was asking him to have sex with me.

None of this made any sense to me since I am not prone to this type of behavior. I told him that I was going back to that same bar and was going to ask the staff what they had seen, if anything. Then the guy hung abruptly. Later that day he sent me a text message which said: "I DID fuck you, bro. Btw I'm POZ."

I immediately drove to the ER to receive PEP medication. The medication and my ER visit cost me about $800, since my insurance wouldn't cover it. The worst part was that when the police arrived to take down my case, they told me there wasn't anything they could do and that they would never be able to prove it's rape, and good luck. The doctor at the ER told me this how the cops act all the time.

Despite this, I contacted the guy again and told him I was reporting him for rape. This is when he told me he had been lying the whole time: he did in fact rape me, but he was NOT positive for HIV. He just wanted to scare me. He agreed to get tested to prove it to me, and brought me his results from the clinic. (I agreed to meet him at the clinic with two of my friends with me)

I tried again to talk to the police at my local precinct but they said there was no way to prove it was rape and they wouldn't do anything about it. I continued with the PEP medication just in case. I tested negative at the end of 30 days treatment, but the nurse said I should still get re-tested in a month.

During the next month this guy continually contacted me through phone calls and emails. Whenever I blocked him he would just use a different number or email address. All his emails were about how attracted to me he was and how he was in love with me and that he was getting married soon and this was his last chance to be with a man. Again, I reported this to the police and they said there was nothing they could do.

A few weeks ago, I think it was right around this guy's wedding, he was still continuing with his "love" texts and calls to me and I kept ignoring them. Finally he called me and left a message saying he was tested for STD's and everything was negative, but there was a REACTIVE test for HIV 1/2. He said his test results were HIV 1= Negative...HIV2 = Negative...HIV 1/2 Reactive. He then asked me what those test results meant.

I called him and told him I'm not a doctor, so he should listen to whatever the doctor at the clinic told him. He said the doctors at the clinic didn't tell him anything, they just handed him the paper and let him walk out. This sounded fishy to me, since in my experience the doctors at a clinic will always explain your test results to you, especially if there's any discrepancy. It's also strange since this guy works as a hospital administrator--and his parents are doctors at the United Nations--and he must have SOME resources about where to get info about his HIV test results.

I asked him what the next step was: did the doctors say they would test him again, or did they refer him to a counselor to get on HIV medication? Again, he said they didn't tell him anything, they just handed him the results and let him leave. He then demanded to know what MY status was and if I had given HIM anything.

I freaked out again and went to clinic. I had a rapid test which said I was negative, and the nurse there said this guy's story sounded strange. However she said mixed HIV test results are not uncommon and in most cases mean the person is negative. But she also added that I need to get re-tested AGAIN to really rule out an HIV infection.

I'm so anxious right now. I never went back for the follow-up tests. I just can't put myself through this anymore. My current boyfriend has continually tested negative, so that gives me SOME comfort. But this situation has given me so much anxiety. My questions are this:

1) How can I convince the NY Police Department to take action against this guy. I at least want a restraining order.

2) Does his story of a clinic telling him he is Reactive for one his tests, then not telling him anything else and sending him home sound normal?

3) If he is telling the truth, what do these mixed test results mean?


I'm sorry my post is so long and complicated. If you took the time to read it, thank you very much...
 
I agree with Mbamike. Hire a lawyer. I did some Google searching on your behalf to see what the laws were in New York regarding restraining orders. (In NY they're called "Orders of Protection.") I'm pretty sure you have a good case to get one, but really that isn't enough when it comes to dealing with this bastard.

You need a good lawyer. Ideally, you're finding ways to document all the exchanges you're having with the asshole. Has he admitted his crimes to you in text messages?

With a good lawyer you can hopefully navigate the legal system, and maybe even force the cops into pressing charges against the bastard. I know New York has some good laws when it comes to discrimination against LGBT people, but I am unsure how much influence it has over law enforcement. A lawyer would know the answer, however, and could use it to your advantage. If nothing else he might know someone in law enforcement who he could talk to and get the ball rolling.

When looking for a lawyer you're going to want to find someone who offers a free initial consultation. That will give you the opportunity to discuss your problem and explore your legal options. It'll also give you the opportunity to figure out how much it's going to cost you, and whether or not you'll like working with the attorney.

Once you've explored your options you can then begin making plans on what to do.

I've never been in your shoes before, so I cannot imagine what you are going through. However, I have helped other people locate and find good lawyers in the past on issues related to divorce. So that is something, at least. And remember that anything you talk to a lawyer about is confidential.

Do a Google Search: "Find New York Lawyer"

Look for a lawyer in your area of the state. I'm not sure what type of lawyer you'd need exactly; I'd start with either personal injury and then criminal law. Calling one up and explaining why you need a lawyer: "I've been raped, the cops are refusing to do anything, and the rapist continues to contact and harass me. I want help in exploring my legal options and filing for a restraining order." That is all you'd really need to say, and even if they can't help you directly, the likelihood that they'd know someone who could is extremely high - and they'd likely refer you to that individual.

I hope this helps. I'm sending positive thoughts your way. Make sure your close friends and people you can trust know what happened and that this guy is still contacting you. If for no other reason than emotional support.

I hope it works out for you, and the bastard gets what he deserves.
 
I also wanted to add something else; something that might not have been considered.

From what you've written about the account - you only had two drinks, the second one sounds like it had date rape slipped into it. He definitely used something to drug you. The fact that he had it prepared and ready for when he met you means that there was some premeditation on his part. He had to plan it, otherwise he wouldn't have had the drugs ready to use. It also means that he had to find some way to procure those drugs.

Since he did this to you, there is a chance he's done it to others, and if he hasn't done so already - he's probably going to do it to someone else in the future.

This is something to take into consideration. Again, positive thoughts being sent your way.
 
If you can't file rape charges against him you can, it seems, file stalking charges against him.

And get yourself to a counsellor.
 
hi DeNerval,

I saw you also have put the same posting in the 'Health' forum, and that people over there already have given you some advice.

First of all, stop immediately with all contacts with this guy. Just don't react anymore on all of his messages, and try to block as much as possible all the ways how he can make contact with you.

Definately, this guys is a weirdo, a liar, and whatever, and you must not waste more time in interacting with him. You told us that you have a current boyfriend, I assume he is aware what has happened with you?

And you were very good to get yourself tested immediately, and also did the follow-up tests. I tend to think that, in general, those STD clinics are very good, and also very capable to give you a good advice. That guy is a Big liar, so no need to trust any story of him.

I am not a lawyer, and I have no idea what to to with all these police items. You might also consider to go on with your life, and with building up a nice relationship with your current boyfriend.

I never went back for the follow-up tests. I would definately advise you to go back again.

Best wishes & feel free to ask for more advice.
 
I've merged your two threads and setup the other thread to link to this one.

I have my doubts about your story and you probably have an idea why I'm doubtful.

We'll let you continue to get responses for a bit and then we'll examine your latest story in a little more detail later this evening.
 
DeNerval - all of the above is excellent. I would check to see if your jurisdiction had a special victims unit -yes, just like tv - or some other sexual offense department. These departments generally are above the police and maybe get some action where you can't. Also, the department that ends up with this can also see if there is any forensic tests or evidence that should be preserved. All the best.
 
I agree with Kara. There are a few things in your story that don't add up. Where in NY do you live?
 
I posted on two boards because that's what people on this board suggested I do.

More importantly, what are your doubts? Because I don't know what your doubts are. I'm pretty disconcerted that that an administrator for this board would make this kind of comments. I've already dealt with enough stress in this situation and thought this board would be a safe, non judgmental place to talk about these things---just as the board is advertised to be.

If you have advice about how to deal with these things I'm going through, I'm open to hearing them. Otherwise it's not your job as a site adminstrator to to try to cast doubt on what I've gone through. Really, what do you get out of that?






I've merged your two threads and setup the other thread to link to this one.

I have my doubts about your story and you probably have an idea why I'm doubtful.

We'll let you continue to get responses for a bit and then we'll examine your latest story in a little more detail later this evening.
 
I'm just wondering a couple of things. How did he get in your house? If you blacked out, how would he know where you lived? I guess unless he picked you up or something

Also, did you ask any of the employees at the bar what they had seen? I know you threatened the guy, but did you end up asking them? Any little bit of info would help.

What's weird is that the police said there's nothing that can be done. If a woman were raped, would they just tell her that nothing can be done? For now try to just breathe and do follow-up tests to make sure you are negative.
 
You don't say whether the ER did a proper rape exam, with a rape kit. Takes swabs, etc.

Something similar happened to a friend of mine, except he woke up while the guy was sucking his dick outside. He pushed the guy away, who ran off. He saw police soon after who went to look for the guy. This was in NY.

If you press charges, the police have to investigate and bring the guy in. Why didn't you go to the DA if the police were not helping.

You also didn't answer my questions, where in NY do you live?
 
I'm sorry that I don't have any advice for you but I just wanted to stop by and say that I am so sorry that this happened to you. No one should ever have to experience rape and yet it happens all the time :( That guy is a monster and I wish you the best in your attempts at prosecuting this bastard!
 
Where in NY are you? Which police department handled your situation? The NYPD? Stop communicating with this guy immediately. You're making yourself look bad because in eyes of cops and his potential defense is that you're not afraid of your rapist if you met him after and continued to communicate. Save every email, text and if he calls get a digital recorder and start recording your messages. Have your cellphone/phone company log conversations and send you the paper work. If you feel unsafe, contact your D.A. office and explain your situation. D.A.s have rape/victim advocate divisions that handle these cases. You might be able to secure temporary restraining order at least. If you're in NYC try calling 212 267 RAPE and see if they can be of any more use than your local precinct cops.

Yes, rape cases are murky to work with for L.E. and unfortunately it will not be easy for you. Don't waste a lot of time, act as soon as possible, and if you can of course hire an attorney.
 
First of all, I just wanted to say thank you for all of your advice and support. There are a few things I want to address and questions I want to answer here. (I should say that I almost don't want to answer some the questions that were asked above because I don't want to validate these questions)

1. The person who violated me drove me home in his car. He knew where I lived because he just looked at my drivers license in my wallet. He took my keys from my pocket and unlocked the door to my house. This is what he told me.

2. When I was in the ER, the doctor was most interested in getting me on PEP medication and that was what most of the night was spent doing. For some reason, it took them hours to get the medication to me. When the police finally came, they took down my details and the details of what happened. A rape kit was never used or even brought up. I got the feeling they just saw it as date that had gone wrong or an argument between lovers. I had never been in this situation before and didn't know what to ask or demand. I guess I was most interested in getting the PEP medication.

3. I never actually went back to the bar to ask the staff if they had noticed anything. I have been feeling horribly guilty about allowing this to happen to me. I know I'm the victim here, but I don't feel like a victim. I feel embarrassed about this. I also feel worthless, worried I might have unknowingly gave my current boyfriend HIV because of this whole awful situation. Right now, I'm trying to work though these emotions.

4. I live on Long Island, in small town. I don't want o say much more than that.

5. I had never responded to any of my violators communications via text, email, phone and went out of my to block this communication. The only times I responded to him were the TWO times he suggested he infected me with HIV. I think any normal person would have responded to him in those situations. However, I now see that I should have never responded to him because it seems he only wanted to get attention from me.

6. MOST IMPORTANTLY: I have unfortunately learned that the police do NOT always have your best interest in mind. The ones I have dealt with seem only interested in investigating "easy" crimes and don't want to do the legwork that some crimes entail. I could cite several examples among my friends' cases that would further support this. So please, don't get indignant when I tell you the police didn't do much to help me.

7. My current boyfriend is an amazing person who knows about what happened to me and has been thoroughly supportive. He was tested for HIV last month and in negative. My rapid test was negative, but the doctor said I should still come back in a month for further testing, if only for peace of mind.

Again, thank you for your advice on this. I'm consulting with a lawyer later today.
 
hi DeNerval,

Thanks for your update. I would like to advise you to concentrate on item 7(a&b).

"(a) My current boyfriend is an amazing person who knows about what happened to me and has been thoroughly supportive. He was tested for HIV last month and in negative. (b) My rapid test was negative, but the doctor said I should still come back in a month for further testing, if only for peace of mind."

So try not to spend too much time on things from the past (even the way how the police treated you), but try to look into the future as much as possible: a nice and relaxed & happy future with the boyfriend.

Good luck, and feel free to ask for more questions.
 
First of all, I just wanted to say thank you for all of your advice and support. There are a few things I want to address and questions I want to answer here. (I should say that I almost don't want to answer some the questions that were asked above because I don't want to validate these questions)

1. The person who violated me drove me home in his car. He knew where I lived because he just looked at my drivers license in my wallet. He took my keys from my pocket and unlocked the door to my house. This is what he told me.

2. When I was in the ER, the doctor was most interested in getting me on PEP medication and that was what most of the night was spent doing. For some reason, it took them hours to get the medication to me. When the police finally came, they took down my details and the details of what happened. A rape kit was never used or even brought up. I got the feeling they just saw it as date that had gone wrong or an argument between lovers. I had never been in this situation before and didn't know what to ask or demand. I guess I was most interested in getting the PEP medication.

3. I never actually went back to the bar to ask the staff if they had noticed anything. I have been feeling horribly guilty about allowing this to happen to me. I know I'm the victim here, but I don't feel like a victim. I feel embarrassed about this. I also feel worthless, worried I might have unknowingly gave my current boyfriend HIV because of this whole awful situation. Right now, I'm trying to work though these emotions.

4. I live on Long Island, in small town. I don't want o say much more than that.

5. I had never responded to any of my violators communications via text, email, phone and went out of my to block this communication. The only times I responded to him were the TWO times he suggested he infected me with HIV. I think any normal person would have responded to him in those situations. However, I now see that I should have never responded to him because it seems he only wanted to get attention from me.

6. MOST IMPORTANTLY: I have unfortunately learned that the police do NOT always have your best interest in mind. The ones I have dealt with seem only interested in investigating "easy" crimes and don't want to do the legwork that some crimes entail. I could cite several examples among my friends' cases that would further support this. So please, don't get indignant when I tell you the police didn't do much to help me.

7. My current boyfriend is an amazing person who knows about what happened to me and has been thoroughly supportive. He was tested for HIV last month and in negative. My rapid test was negative, but the doctor said I should still come back in a month for further testing, if only for peace of mind.

Again, thank you for your advice on this. I'm consulting with a lawyer later today.

Did the ER doctor have you give a urine sample to test it for a date rape drug?
 
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