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I just got done watching Menage a Troi and didnt realize how well written an episode it was (season 3 - 24). Something clearly happened after Roddenberry Died after season 3 was complete, the Star Trek franchise seemed to have lost something when that happened.

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what is your favorite episode of TNG?
 

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My favourite would probably be Best of both worlds. I love The Borg and the character elements in those particular episodes were great. I think the writers, producers etc didn't feel as restricted by Roddenberry's 'rules' after he died, which was probably the reason you can see a difference in the episodes themselves.
 
"Best of Both Worlds"! Without a doubt. Although "Unification" was a cool one too. I also thought "All Good Things..." was done well as a wrap up episode.
 
I also really liked the one with the Bozeman, pretty sure it was Cause and Effect.
 
My top 3 picks:

#3 - Cause and Effect
#2 - Unification (Mark Leonard's performance still makes my pulse race. I'm glad he lived long enough to do it, and I'm glad they gave him that scene for us to say 'goodbye' to Sarek.)
#1 - All Good Things
 
BENDERBOY said:
i think he was called the Traveller
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Bit of Trivia - Eric Menyuk, who played the Traveller, barely missed out on playing Data. It was a very close call between Eric and Brent, but Brent Spiner won out in the end. Eric's audition for Data, however, won him the roll of the Traveller.
 
MawellEvans said:
boy i walked right into that one. it is streaming!
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Yup, Standard Definition TNG is showing on Netflix but apparantly tests so far have proved promising for a digital remastering of TNG much like they did with TOS. There's rumours going around that Netflix could be showing HD TNG episodes as early as next spring! I'd love to see the earlier seasons given the same overhaul as TOS. Much like what I thought they should do with Star Wars ^^
 
begin nerdy critique...

omg this makes my **** wet if its true. hd tng? fuck maybe theres a reason to live afterall.

it appears my theory is somewhat correct, most of the episodes named here and Q were under Roddenberry's influence.

as far as The Traveller, I think that Eric Menyuk might have made a better data. We all love Brent Spiner, but his portrayal made Data seem too ostracized, along with Burton.

Best of Both Worlds was pretty good, however it seems the producers were limited in their use of special effects that held the series back in general. i think this was especially apparent in Best of Both Worlds, since they revisit the fight scene with the Borg cube with the launch of DS9 and Picards assimilation in First Contact.

there is always so much left to the imagination in much of the TNG series. i think thats why I consider DS9 better than TNG in many aspects. In DS9 there was a 7 year story arc, much more CGI, more consistency. TNG has probably the best Star Trek episodes, but DS9 episodes were on the average better.

Yesterdays Enterprise (season 3 -15)

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Picard in the alternate timeline makes this impassioned speech about why Tasha cant leave and join the Enterprise C, he tells her its wrong and not logical. What if he flat out refuses to let her leave, but she goes anyways?

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At least that would have fit with the theme of the War-Torn federation, with officers disobeying orders, as Riker was clearly at-odds with Picard in the episode.

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If anything, Picard was being inconsistent in allowing the Enterprise C to go back in time, but not Tasha. Geordi brings up the point about re-arming the Enterprise C, but Picard says no again.

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Why don't they ask Guinan what to do, or at least contact starfleet? It strikes me as odd as how Picard would take Guinans advice, then not seek her counsel when the circumstances change when Cpt. Garrett is killed?
Picard could be like, hey Cpt. Garrett is dead, should I let Tasha go?

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Also, what if the Enterprise C had been destroyed before it went back in time? Would Picard been willing to take his Enterprise back into time to prevent a disastrous war? I probably would have, you should always exploit those kinds of opportunities to your advantage.

TNG seemed much too Utopian, too ethical, much like Picard, whose absolute moral compass sorta blunted the series, as we know it wasn't until AFTER the series ended that Picard finally blew a fuse in First Contact, when he refused to surrender the Enterprise to the Borg.

Cisco never had this problem, and Janeway sorta fell into the same trap until the end(game) as well.


Amazing fan-made clip about the Episode...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHaTC0aUu-Q[/ame]

40 Billion have already died, this war is not supposed to be happening....

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOi0NT-c1Ig[/ame]
 

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half a life.

it's the episode where dr. timicin is trying to save the dying sun on the solar system of his planet.

his culture requires him to commit suicide because he's 60 years old and lwaxanna tries to convince him not to do it.

up until that point, lwaxanna was just over-the-top comic relief, but the way she accepted that she had to give up the man she loved gave her a lot of depth and made her my favorite character in all of trek.

Majel Barrett Roddenberry. RIP :cry:
 
Love all the commentaries....every fan seems to have a different and interesting perspective but then there are so many things to considerabout the Trek world....hopefully someday as they rebooted the movie franchise we may see another worthy Trek television series.LOVE DS9.....a lot of people hated the war aspect of the last two seasons but in no way were the writers simply jingoistic shoot em up guys....what wars can do,the harsh moral compromises,the efffects on the lives of those involved,how strained those progressive values that drive the charter of the Federation get in the midst of the quest for survival...but overall it has the richest character base, like a tv science fiction grand novel.

Evanrick,think the CGI was much more developed by the time they could do all the great DS9 battles,technology was realized for more expansive battle scene budget compared to Best of Both Worlds but there was a lot of heart and humanity in TNG even after Roddenberry's death.Indeed more conflict and imperfection among humans especially were allowed to be shown.....Roddenberry kind of tried to drive conflict from outward sources but successors like Michael Piller,Ira Stephen Behr,Ron Moore...they continued the vision and built it better,more human and humane,more realistic and approachable.

If I could I would go hours talking about these shows....some of the best,most positive,thought provoking and forward looking stuff ever made for television!..|
 
GM1985 said:
I also really liked the one with the Bozeman, pretty sure it was Cause and Effect.
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I liked that one along with "Disaster" equally.

When Gene did, a lot "his" requirements/ideas died with him. Some good, some not so good.

I definitley liked how the set got brighter, and everything seemed more cooperative/collegial.
 
i have always been fond of season 2's 'the measure of a man' in which data must prove before the judge advocate general that he is a sentient being and not the property of starfleet.
 
One of my personal favorites is The Royale. The way that The Royale progressed, it was kinda like...If you are a hardcore Legend Of Zelda fan (like I am), you know that you must complete certain tasks/actions for the way forward to open up. It's as if the adventure you're on is a puzzle that you have to figure out. In The Royale, it's no different. They find Col. Richey's diary which leads them to the Hotel Royale novel. They then figure it out that the novel is in fact, a list of things they need to do and people they need to talk to in order to move events forward. Very interesting episode dealing with reality, and necessarily "how" things happen the way they happen.

I also loved Star Trek: Enterprise (Gawd, I had it bad for Commander Tucker! :drool: :hitit:). I love how Enterprise ended in the series finale. We learn that all 4 seasons - basically the whole "Enterprise" TV show was one big Holodeck program by Commander Riker. An unexpected ending that, again deals with, "what, necessarily 'is' reality?"
 
Engage!

Man, I love so many of them. I picked these as five of my standout favorites:

Conspiracy - An arthropod-looking alien species infiltrates Star Fleet. Elderly Admiral Quinn, with one of the aliens revitalizing him, whups Riker's and Worf's ass!

Q Who? - "Resistance is futile." We get to see the Borg! First time I watched this, I felt chills @ the end when Picard says to Guinan, "They will be coming."

Datalore - Lore always brings intrigue when he visits. And you gotta love the Great Crystalline Entity.

Sins of the Father - *Gasp* A human (Capt. Picard) serves as Worf's Cha'Dich! I love the ending, when as Worf accepts discommendation, he stands at the center of the circle, and the Klingons in attendance turn their backs to him.

Night Terrors - The crew are stuck and can't dream, so they become more and more disoriented and hapless. Troy, in telepathic trance, keeps hearing the same seemingly indecipherable clue (I love this), "Eyes in the dark. One moon circles."

I could keep going...

I love the episode with the con artist who tries to take over the alien planet by pretending to be Ardra.

I loved when Picard was trapped on the planet with the alien leader who could only speak lines from the lore of his planet: "Darmok and Jalad @ Tanagra!"

I love the episode when Data has to save the crew by flickering a strobe light, after they've all become addicted to the alien game.

I love the episode with the aliens that are invisible to everybody but Data. So almost undetectably, the aliens are devouring the ship and crew.

And on and on and on... :D
 
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